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VaporX 1gig 256bit
Phenom x4 black

First question;
Someone told me the quality of graphics were affect by the 256bit things not the 1gig thing.

Is it true ? And if yes what does it mean exactly. I then thought maybe the 1gig vs 2gig will help display more animation at the same time without issues and 192 vs 256 will diplay texture neater. Correct me if I am wrong.

2nd question;

Someone else told me that if someone would want to play mass effects as hes watching netflix, videocard doesnt like to split memory. So one would want to get a 2gig or 3gig to prevent lags.

Is this true??

3th question;

I read somewhere on this website that you wanna spend twoce as much on your video card than what you paid for your cpu.

Is this true and is there a chart or reccomended gpu for different Cpu???

Last Question;

If my first question is true, does this
Mean it is freaking useless to go from one 1gig 256bit to a 2gig 256bit
 
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1) The real answer is both. the 256 is how many data bits are transferred every time data is moved, which is several hundred million times a second at least. More memory helps, because you can have more of the data the card needs to display without having to stop and grab it from main memory or the drives. Think of it like a warehouse, the docks are the bus width and the building is the storage. More docks means data can be moved faster, and a bigger building can hold more data for distribution.

2) More video memory may help in this situation, but as a rule I don't stream and play games at the same time, unless they are on different machines.

3) This is rubbish. Plenty of builds can hold their own without following this idiom...
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You didn't list the actual type of video card you have. Just the manufacture.

1)The primary limitation of Video Memory is your maximum resolution, or rather, how well the card performs at higher resolutions. On a 1080p display, most games are starting to use up to 2GB of VRAM. That number increases for 1440p and essentially quadruples for 4K displays. It's also important in Surround/Eyefinity setups (gaming stretched over multiple monitors).

The 2nd number, (I'm assuming) is the bandwidth of video card memory. Basically how wide the lane to your video card memory is. More is better. Not to oversimplify, but for the most part, it scales with the card you're buying, and can be ignored.

2) Most 2D applications, like Netflix, barely involve the Video Card, so I wouldn't even take that into account. Your actual system memory may have more of an impact of how much your PC can "multitask".

3) That's a good general rule, if a bit of an oversimplification. The best advice is to give post your build/purchasing ideas in these forums. Keep in mind, it's also a lot easier to replace a video card than a CPU. (A CPU replacement may require a new motherboard, e.g., rebuilding your PC, and the new motherboard may require new RAM..etc...)

4) If you haven't bought a card yet, and you game with a 1080p monitor, you don't want to bottleneck you system with a "1GB" video card. If you already own the 1GB card, it's probably not worth it upgrading to the identical 2GB model, as the card itself is probably the bottleneck.
 
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Question 1: The 256bit reference is in regards to the "width" of the memory interface. This refers to how large a "data pipe" you have between the actual video card processor (GPU) and the memory. Typically, the wider the path, the better.

Question 2: Having more memory will allow your video card to handle larger (more detailed) images faster. More is generally better.

Question 3: I know of no such chart, but you do want to match your CPU and GPU performance levels to prevent bottlenecking (restricting performance). I would recommend that you look at specific components and ask about those rather than referring to some chart that may/may not be current nor accurate.

Question 4: If given an option between 2 otherwise identical GPUs, one with 1GB and the other with 2GB of memory, I would go with the larger memory capacity. CAUTION, make sure both use the same type of memory with this sort of comparison (i.e., both use GDDR5 memory).
 
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1) The real answer is both. the 256 is how many data bits are transferred every time data is moved, which is several hundred million times a second at least. More memory helps, because you can have more of the data the card needs to display without having to stop and grab it from main memory or the drives. Think of it like a warehouse, the docks are the bus width and the building is the storage. More docks means data can be moved faster, and a bigger building can hold more data for distribution.

2) More video memory may help in this situation, but as a rule I don't stream and play games at the same time, unless they are on different machines.

3) This is rubbish. Plenty of builds can hold their own without following this idiom.

4) It's not useless to go from a 1GB to a 2GB video card, especially if they have the same bus width. But you may not see the improvements you expect.
 
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AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb Quad-Core 3.2GHz Socket AM3

1. What would be the best video card worth putting with it (1 for each family please)

2. Everybody keep telling that my X4 if better than a 8350

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100314VXSR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX

 
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Seerbus Think of it like a warehouse, the docks are the bus width and the building is the storage. More docks means data can be moved faster, and a bigger building can hold more data for distribution.
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So the Memory Interface would be the docks and the Memory Size would be the building Right ?%??
 
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Correct.
 
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Thanks Sarbuus

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AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb Quad-Core 3.2GHz Socket AM3

1. What would be the best video card worth putting with it (1 for each family please)

2. Everybody keep telling that my X4 if better than a 8350. Is it true??

And am I bottleneckibg myself right ow??n

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100314VXSR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX

 
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Your current CPU and GPU are a good match.

1) We need to know your budget to make a recommendation, along with the resolution of your monitor (1080p is common).

2) Define Better? :) Better for the money maybe? Better if you have a motherboard that doesn't support AM3+, which you need for a FX-8350?

Phenom II X4 is quad-core, FX-8350 is a octal-core (8 core). The FX-8350 is a few generations newer. I'm sure each core in the 8350 is faster than each core in the Phenom II X4. So in short, no, the FX-8350 is "better".
 
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