Need GTX 980 vs 970 benchmarks.

Dawis67_AE · Sep 19, 2014

In Norway GTX 980 costs 5000kr but 970 only 3000kr. You dont need to know the currency to tell that GTX 980 almost double as expensive. I wana know the compatison on these 2 cards. I will be probably overclocking . My idea is to maybe get 970 and then later on SLI it or maybe i should just 1 980. IDK

VincentP · Sep 19, 2014

GTX 980 is about 20% faster than GTX 970.
This could be important at 2560x1440 resolution, not so much at 1920x1080.

Dawis67_AE · Sep 19, 2014

VincentP :

Well i am gonna have 1080p monitor.

VincentP · Sep 19, 2014

Dawis67_AE :

Then the GTX 970 is a better choice. The GTX 980 would be over kill.
You will find most of the published benchmarks are at 2560x1440 because neither of these cards has any trouble at 1920x1080.

Dawis67_AE · Sep 19, 2014

VincentP :

Not a the moment, but i wont be upgrading in 3-4 years at least and i want to maintain at least 60+ fps on all upcomming games when playing on high/ultra. Not so sure if it will be overkill.

azzazel_99 · Sep 19, 2014

Get the 980. ALWAYS better to have to much then not enough. The more you have now the more options you are left open for later in Upgrades. The 980 beats the 290x of that gives you an idea of speed so even at 1080p if you wanted a 144hz monitor like one I game on the extra horse power is very much so necessary to maintain 120+fps. So I say get the 980 so you won't be regretting it later.

Dawis67_AE · Sep 19, 2014

But can somebody give me benchmarks? I really wana see the performance in FPS. Also would appreciate if you listed what was the testing system.

VincentP · Sep 19, 2014

Dawis67_AE :

So you pay almost double now for a 20% performance improvement so that you don't have to upgrade for a little bit longer, but in two years time you could just upgrade to something significantly better with the money you saved with the cheaper card now.
"Future proofing" is never a good reason to buy a top of the line product at an exponentially more expensive price. The only legitimate reason is if you need the extra performance before some reasonable replacement will be available.

azzazel_99 · Sep 19, 2014

20% is alot when it comes to gaming. So Instead of getting what's gonna get you 70-80 fps in games like bf4 now which is rather demanding as is watch dogs when next years games come out that demand more than watch dogs you maybe barely pulling 50-60 fps where that extra power from the 980 May save you. I have seen this countless times over the last 10 years with gpu's. Or maybe you decide in a few mo the to get that 144hz monitor and even maybe the asus 144hz 1440p monitor..... The 970 May not have enough juice to let you enjoy that monitor the way you want too. However the 980's stock 20% increase in performance (even higher once overclocked) over the 970 will very well give you the extra boost you need to game how you want to game. I'm not saying it's gonna last you 6 years from now but it opens the upgrade path for other hardware you might decide to add. That's why I said it's ALWAYS a better to have a little extra than too little. Also the 980 isn't "top of the line" in terms of top performance.

VincentP · Sep 19, 2014

Dawis67_AE :

There is this web site, what is it called? Oh, google.

Dawis67_AE · Sep 19, 2014

azzazel_99 :

20% is alot when it comes to gaming. So Instead of getting what's gonna get you 70-80 fps in games like bf4 now which is rather demanding as is watch dogs when next years games come out that demand more than watch dogs you maybe barely pulling 50-60 fps where that extra power from the 980 May save you. I have seen this countless times over the last 10 years with gpu's. Or maybe you decide in a few mo the to get that 144hz monitor and even maybe the asus 144hz 1440p monitor..... The 970 May not have enough juice to let you enjoy that monitor the way you want too. However the 980's stock 20% increase in performance (even higher once overclocked) over the 970 will very well give you the extra boost you need to game how you want to game. I'm not saying it's gonna last you 6 years from now but it opens the upgrade path for other hardware you might decide to add. That's why I said it's ALWAYS a better to have a little extra than too little. Also the 980 isn't "top of the line" in terms of top performance.

yes...But i wana see benchmarks. I just cant find good picture with benchmarks.

VincentP · Sep 19, 2014

Article with a full description of the cards and benchmarks in 8 different games:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-and-980-reference-review,1.html

azzazel_99 · Sep 19, 2014

Rather impressive for oh god are their setups all over the place. There is no consistency with their gpu setups which kinda makes me question their testing at all. Also o. The bf4 testing their screen shot shows 4k res but the. Their chart shows 1440p so which is it? Some tests they did sli 780ti's others they didn't. Are their 780's and it's reference or are they aftermarket like one of their 980's were. No consistency at all. I would wait till toms does their testing with good consistent setups.

VincentP · Sep 19, 2014

azzazel_99 :

Tom's article with benchmarks has been posted:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-970-maxwell,3941.html

Guru3D results gave an idea of performance.
Any benchmarks have their limitations. Toms' hardware benchmarks include 1080p results where the cards are platform limited and then 4K, but not 2560x1440 which would be the most common resolution to use these cards. The percentage results in the conclusion seem to include the platform limited benchmarks which makes the average improvment seem lower than it is.

Dawis67_AE · Sep 19, 2014

VincentP :

Great benchmarks, but only bad thing about it is that i will be using 4790k and 8gb DDR3 ram.
Also not sure if benchmarks are made on max possible since it stands there "high" on most games.

Also weird thing is that 780ti outperforms 980 in Ubisofts open world games, spesificly AC Black Flag and Watch Dogs. I wonder why is that?

RobCrezz · Sep 19, 2014

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-970-maxwell,review-33038.html

Dawis67_AE · Sep 19, 2014

Also looking at "verdict" the average performance in 1080p with GTX 970 is only 6% smaller than 780ti and 12% smaller than 980.
Since i will be using 1080p monitor i am not really sure if i should get 980 since the price is around 40% bigger than 970 in Norway.

VincentP · Sep 19, 2014

In the 1080p AC Black Flag benchmark, the GTX 970, R9 290, GTX 980, R9 290X and GTX 780 Ti results are all pretty much the same. Something in the platform or game is limiting performance to 60 FPS. None of these cards is noticeably faster in this benchmark.

Arma 3 is also clearly limited by the platform or game.

In Watch Dogs, the average frame rate of the GTX 780 Ti and GTX 980 are the same. The minimum for the GTX 980 is lower. If I were running the test I would run it again in case it was just a one off. The drivers are also not as mature for this card as the older GTX 780 Ti.

If you exclude AC Black Flag and Arma 3, the GTX 980 is 13.7% faster than the GTX 970 at 1080p. To me, this isn't worth the price difference.

Dawis67_AE · Sep 20, 2014

VincentP :

I agree it isnt worth, but i think 200usd difference is because in the middle 970ti might come, but idk.

Anyways, at least in Norway MSI gtx 980 costs 5100kr and 1 EVGA GTX 970 ACX costs 2800. So basically you can pay 500kr more than MSI 980 and get 970 SLI. I dont quite understand the pricing there, but fine. I am getting 970 most likely. Although the only reason that i want 980 is because its better and i have that hype to go for the best and not look for the price....NO DAWIS DONT.

RobCrezz · Sep 20, 2014

Yeah of course, it isnt a 780 Ti upgrade - its not meant to be. Wait for "big Maxwell" for that. This is the equivalent of the GK104 (680/770).

VincentP · Sep 20, 2014

Dawis67_AE :

The top card will always be priced high simply because it is the best.
The GTX 970 is much better value.
There will no doubt be a faster card made on the Maxwell architecture later and once that happens the GTX 980 won't be so expensive anymore.
The GTX 780 was $800 in Australia when first released. Because of the R9 290X and GTX 780 Ti its price had dropped to $550 before the GTX 970 and GTX 980 had been released.

Nantes · Dec 2, 2014

azzazel_99 :

Let me present you a much wiser choice: when you need the extra horsepower down the road, buy another 970 and SLI, getting twice the power for pretty much the price difference of the 980 vs 970...

Theretoohsprahs · Dec 13, 2014

VincentP :

Google isn't a website, its a search engine...

RobCrezz · Dec 14, 2014

Theretoohsprahs :

The two arent mutually exclusive. Its still a website and a search engine.

Theretoohsprahs · Dec 14, 2014

RobCrezz :

Theretoohsprahs :

The two arent mutually exclusive. Its still a website and a search engine.

To each their own I suppose. I mean I often characterize it as a search engine and not a website because I can't use it as a credible source in my papers.

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