Stuck between AMD 8320 and Intel i7 4790

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I want to build my first pc that I will use for gaming as well as editing and rendering etc. I was set on certain parts but wondering now after seeing the i7 4790...

This is my original build that I had in mind:

Case: phantom NZXT 530
Graphics Card: ASUS Radeon R9 280 DirectCU top II 3GB
CPU: AMD FX-8320
CPU cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO
Motherboard: ASUS M5A97-EVO r2.0
PSU: CORSAIR TX 650W
Ram: Corsair Vengeance (2 x 4gb) DDR3
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM
SSD: Kingmax SMP35 client 120GB

And this is the parts that I am considering to swap out:

CPU: AMD FX-8320 swap for -> Intel Core i7 4790
Motherboard: ASUS M5A97-EVO r2.0 swap for -> msi z87-g43 gaming sata 6gb/s
RAM: Corsair Vengeance (2 x 4gb) DDR3 swap for -> Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer (2x4gb) DDR3

And just want to know if I want to OC the i7 4790 to 4.0 would liquid cooling be necessary or will this CPU fan do the job?

Seeing that I'm new to this any advice on either build will be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
 

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The GPU is already a set thing actually... would that be a problem with the second build?
 
If you have the budget, a i7-4790K would be the best of both worlds in gaming or rendering. You need the i7-4790K not the i7-4790 to be able to overclock.

Not that it is really necessary, the 4790K runs at 4.0 with a 4.4 turbo at stock.
I would use some sort of an aftermarket cooler regardless. The stock intel cooler gets noisy under load. A $65 Phanteks with a 140mm fan is about right.

I have become a bit jaded on the subject of haswell cooling for overclocking.
How high you can OC is firstly determined by your luck in the bin lottery.
I had high expectations from the Devil's canyon parts and their better thermals.
I found out that the thermals really do not matter unless, perhaps, you are a competitive overclocker.
Haswell runs quite cool, that is, until you raise the voltage past 1.25v or so.
Once you go past 1.3v, then you really do need very good cooling to keep stress loads under say 85c.
But, voltages higher than 1.30 are not a good thing for 24/7 usage.
Even if you can handle the heat, how much do you really need that extra multiplier from say 4.4 to 4.6?
My thought is that it is better to use the exotic cooling funds for a quieter and less expensive air cooler.
Anything extra can go to a stronger graphics card for the gamer or a SSD.
 

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Thanks you, this helps a lot!

So if I have the budget then this build should be fine and well balanced without any cons to it?

Case: phantom NZXT 530
Graphics Card: ASUS Radeon R9 280 DirectCU top II 3GB
CPU: Intel Core i7 4790
CPU cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO
Motherboard: msi z87-g43 gaming sata 6gb/s
PSU: CORSAIR TX 650W
Ram: Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer (2x4gb) DDR3
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM
SSD: Kingmax SMP35 client 120GB