What will happen with the 780 ti now that these new cards are out?

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Hi. I bought an MSI 780 Ti gaming a few months back for $715.00 and now Nvidia releases two new cards. The 980 is a little faster and costs $550 while the 970 is almost as fast or as fast in some games as the 780 ti and costs only $330. I recently bought the Asus ROG Swift monitor and now that I'm playing on 1440p I could use a second card. I may buy two 980s but most likely I'll just end up getting two 970s since they are not much slower but they are much cheaper.

But what will I do with this 780 ti? Right now it's actually at the MSI RMA center since it failed again and this is the third time I've had to RMA the card. I doubt anyone would want to buy it considering these new cards are out, or atleast not for anywhere near what I would want to get for it. I know that if they run out of this card at MSI they will send me the card that is next in line in performance which means they would probably send me the 980 which would be great as I would just buy a second 980 for SLI. But I doubt that will happen, atleast for now, maybe if it fails again later (which is obviously likely lol) they may not have any 780 ti and send me a 980.

The performance increase of the 980 is not large but it's something and the new GPUs offer several other new benefits which I would like but my main thing is the performance. If I could get a second 780 ti for SLI I'd be happy but I'm certainly not going to pay another $700 for it when I could get two 970s for less than that.

I guess my question is what are my options? How do you think the discontinuation of the 700 series effects me and my 780 ti? I feel like the prices of the 780 ti will not drop to anywhere near what I want to pay for it and at the same time I don't think anyone would want to buy my 780 ti for I dunno say $500? So what happens then, my 780 ti becomes a $700 (functioning) paperweight?
I know it's how the system works but I feel like I got screwed by Nvidia lol. The "best GPU on the planet" ads a few months back got me and now these new cards are like half the price and better in every way.

Don't scold me please ok thanks :)
 
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Call MSI and whine until they give you what you want. If it's your third time RMAing the same card, just either demand your money back (which you can use to buy 980s/970s) or demand that they give you some sort of voucher, etc.

It's not going to be worth it to get another 780Ti, as you said, and from the way you describe the situation, it won't probably be worth it to get your current one back either.

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Call MSI and whine until they give you what you want. If it's your third time RMAing the same card, just either demand your money back (which you can use to buy 980s/970s) or demand that they give you some sort of voucher, etc.

It's not going to be worth it to get another 780Ti, as you said, and from the way you describe the situation, it won't probably be worth it to get your current one back either.
 
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If you have RMA'd three cards that 'failed", I suspect "contributing factors". TPU gave the card a 9.9 rating, the 2nd highest they have ever given. What PSU .... what are ambients ? If there's anything contributing to the failures, ya wanna get that outta the way 1st.

The MSI 780 Ti was running at $600 every other week for 4 months or so, to bad ya didn't catch it on a "good week". But the best thing is that the appearance of the 970 / 980 will have a lot of people dumping their current cards and this will have an increased effect on the normal price reductions... when the 780 Ti came out the price on the 3rd party 780 tanked by almost $200.

With Ti's now at $560 or so, I expect they will be under $450 new within two weeks or so. So your choices will be to either grab a 2nd one or hook up with someone looking to grab a 2nd one.

 

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Hey man thanks for the quick reply. I've actually been dealing with the same MSI rep for a while now and he seems like a decent guy. I asked him about it today actually and he said they don't really do that. I also told him that maybe his supervisor or whoever has the authority could do it for me, considering this is the third time I'm having to RMA the card. I'll try and reason with him again but if it doesn't work then I'll try and ask to speak to the supervisor and whine as much as possible lol.

MSI is responsible for the card malfunctioning so many times for sure but I feel like I should also be calling Nvidia and ranting about how I feel like they pulled one over on me. Then again, I'm not the only one to have bought a 700 series card this year. I feel like we all need to bring out the torches and pitchforks and demand trade ins :)
 

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Hey jack. You prob don't remember me but the case and motherboard I am using for my RIG right now were bought per your recommendation :)
Carbide 500R and MSI G45 mobo.

I know the card got a 9.9 on techpowerup. I chose this card because it had one of the highest factory OCs and it was also the quietest card. Of course I read all that in the 9.9 review. I also bought the card before it started going on sale, I was pretty ticked when I saw the card at $630 lol.

The original card was flawless, at first. It was virtually silent and ran like a charm however, after some time passed it was still working but it began making this ridiculously loud noise so I sent it in. The replacement they sent me was broken. It went to a black or blue or green or w.e color screen every 10 seconds so I sent it back. They sent me a brand new one in sealed box to replace that one.

This last card that I had worked perfectly fine this whole time but it had a coil whine (many of these do as reviewers have said on newegg and other places). This week though it messed up. I was playing Diablo 3 and everything was fine and then I turned off Diablo 3 and booted up Titanfall. It wouldn't go passed the "connecting" screen and when I took off my headset I heard a weird noise coming from the computer. I tried a different game and the noise was there and the game just crashed after a few seconds and this happened across multiple other games. I took the card out and put in an R9 270 from Gigabyte. Everything worked fine except of course Dead Rising 3 had to be played at like 720p with all settings on low to get anywhere near 60fps but then the game looked so bad I just turned it off and won't play again till I get my card back.

I called my rep at MSI and he said its the card send it in so I did. After I sent it in I thought about one thing that could have been effecting the card. This happened twice in the last few months, I press the power button on the computer and it doesn't turn on but after I press it 3-4 times it turns on (this happened when the 780 ti was still in there). After I put in the R9 270 it worked fine for a few days and then one day I press the power button and the PC does not turn on, I pressed the power button like 10 times and it still did not turn on. This frustrated me because I thought It could be the PSU, or the Mobo or even the power button. Besides the cost or RMA process I would also have to bring the PC to someone to install the replacement part because I don't know how to do it myself. It would be another mission with this PC that I really did not want to take not to mention I'd not have use of my PC for some time. I tried unplugging the power cord and plugging it back in and nothing. Then I thought maybe it's the cord although I think it's unlikely but can't hurt to try a different one. I used a different power cord and the PC booted up from first press no problem. So now I'm thinking maybe the card was not getting enough juice because of that cord and now the RMA dept is going to get a perfectly working card (minus the damn coil whine). I was actually going to RMA the card as soon as I got it because of the coil whine, had the RMA papers printed out and everything but I decided not to as I was too lazy and annoyed to do it again and with the game sound on I didn't really hear it.

So yea thats that. I should have phrased the "failed 3 times" part differently sorry. Still, I don't like the coil whine and I've read that I can request an RMA if it has coil whine and that I don't have to put up with it.

Oh and the PSU is a Seasonic X series Gold 1050W. The case has good airflow and the card never goes above 70 degrees.
 

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This is completely off topic but... Although I'm happy with my PC I still want to change it and really it's only because of the looks lol I know sounds stupid.

My RIG is

Case- Carbide 500R
Mobo- MSI G45
CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14

The case is the white one with the black in the middle and the mobo is black and red and the cooler is well you know what it looks like.
This stuff don't match. I'd want a black case, maybe with red LED's like the new Graphite 780t, can use same mobo although I'd prob want one of the new mobos from Asus or MSI (black and red). And for the cooler I'd want to have that Cooler Master V8 GTS or maybe a Liquid cooler.

I got a nice new desk the other day and the top is tinted glass. The monitor is black and has the red LED circle light. I have Razer Deathadder 2013 and Black WIdow Ultimate Stealth keyboard and they both have the green lights. I'd rather have the new Chroma keyboard/mouse so I can change the color to red to match this LED light but I bought these on August 2nd and didn't know those Chroma were coming out. I also had a 40 dollar discount on anything above 60 bucks from Micro-Center. When I found out the Chroma were coming I thought about returning these but figured I was too lazy and didn't care enough.

But I would like to change how the PC looks :)
 
I did see that MSI had an issue with some of it's fans..... some users claiming that the leaked liquid.

1st thing I tell peeps with coil whine is to get a decent PSU but with the X series, you have the best series available.


I will note that I had an experience with EVGA some years back .... 20 support calls, 5 RMAs, 18 months ... the beef was it would not run at the "advertised" factory overclock. The failure was enough of a headache but I wouldn't bust their shoes for that .... even after 5 RMAs, the moist frustrating thing was their tech support procedures. On each and every call we had to go thru every step that we did before as if it was the 1st call. They blamed the PSU (jonnyguru 10,0 rated), they blamed the memory Mushkin (Hynix modules), they blamed the MoBo (Asus Rampage).... I finally sent them picks if two Asus DCII cards running in SLI at a 27% overclock .... and asked why can't YOUR card go just 10% of the way between "reference" and YOUR advertised OC.

In the end, they sent me a next gen reference card which is still in use.
 

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That sounds terrible, atleast you got a next gen card of it.

Now I really want two of those 970s. I mean come on, I paid $715 for this 780 ti and one of the 970s gives almost identical performance (as well as other benefits) and costs $330? How does that even make sense! I'd understand it if I had bought this 780 ti two years ago, hell even one year but what a few months? Instead of advertising this card as "the best GPU in the world" they should have said "Skip this, get the next one".

I'm going to try and get MSI to do something for me and if I can't I guess I'll just have to try and sell it.

I wanted to ask you also, I have the 4670k CPU and I want to know three things about it. First, would it be able to handle two 970s or 780 ti type cards without bottlenecking them?

Would I gain much in game performance if I overclocked it? Also, would a more powerful CPU like that new 5820k I think it is give much of a boost in performance or not really?
 
the 4670k will be fine with 2 of any card.

If you have unlimited funds, or want 3 or 4 GFX cards I would look at X99 platform.... its a cupla hundred bucks and likely a new PSU.

Overclocking is a no brainer.... the OC Genie should get you where ya wanna go.

As for the new look, this is what I'd do

35-709-001-TS


Or maybe you would get more out of this comparison

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You don't want the V8 GTS if cooling or noise is a goal.
http://benchmarkreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/CPU-Coolers2.jpg

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Ya want a nice cooler..... how perty is this ?

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Yea I've read the CM V8 isn't the greatest performer but I just meant I like the way it looks. All of those look nice too but I'd probably want to stay with the red and black theme but those two big coolers look nice, especially the white fans one.

I can't bring myself to change all this stuff just because of looks though. But I will def be doing something about the GPU. One 780 ti is good on 1440p and I have Gsync so that helps but it isn't perfect. I think two of any of these cards would be good though provided everything falls into place with the drivers and game optimization and all that.