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I am looking to build about a $450 gaming PC. I am going to play battlefield 4, Arma 3, Day Z, etc. at about high settings 60 fps.I went with the pentium due to the fact that it is a really capable processor for such a small price. The Pentium also offers a better route for future upgrades to go to a Core i5 or i7, over the AMD counterpart. If you guys have any suggestions or a better build to offer PLEASE DO!
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Tom, your point of view is just that. I don't personally agree. The cheapest i5 cpu is the i5-661 at 166.00 compared to the 8320 at 134.00. The 8320 kicks it's ass up and down the board except in single threaded performance where they are almost identical. I realize that's an older i5 though and not really relevant anymore. The closet i5 3rd gen cpu in price is the i5-3330 which performs worse than the 8320 in multi-threaded use but is about 30% faster on single threaded applications.

I do realize there are more single threaded games out right now but we expect that to change plus the i5 is 50 bucks more than the 8320 which is about a dollar per percent of single threaded performance increase, or thereabouts. I guess that's not...
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Can't for that price to be "attlefield 4, Arma 3, Day Z, etc. at about high settings 60 fps", the video cards that can produce that level cost $249-700 by themselves (GTX 760/770/780-860/870/880 or AMD R9 270/280). If your insisting on that budget (I would say double it to be 'in the ball park' for the actual hardware costs) then you need to go console.
PS4 plays High Settings 60FPS and 1080P graphics on many titles http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates .
 
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This is about as close as you're going to get to what you want to do and even be in the ballpark on budget. And it's never going to do 60fps, but there is no PC build in the world for 450.00 that's going to do that. You will probably want to overclock the CPU for full benefit which is why the EVO is included in the build. It's cheap, no doubt, but it WILL game.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.65 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 V2 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 270X 2GB IceQ X² Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($19.94 @ OutletPC)
Total: $528.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-20 00:33 EDT-0400

Edit: I don't particularly like the idea of using off brand RAM, popular RAM brands are generally popular for a reason, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do and so far the reviews I've seen for the Team Vulcan RAM after investigating it for another thread were all positive.
 
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Why the different sets of ram?
 
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Sorry guys here is the link for the PC I was mentioning, (http://pcpartpicker.com/user/raysfan98/saved/nnLdnQ) If this build can't quite do high settings could it play those games on medium settings? I wanted to go with this build as it seems good for the budget and good for gaming. Suggestions are always welcome, Thanks!
 
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You don't want to overclock with that board. The G3258 is only useful if you can overclock it so that board is pretty much out of the question.
 
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The problem is while the R9 270 is 'okay' , things still need to be processed, especially 2013+ forward games that need to match the performance of the GPU to achieve proper performance. For PC gaming the normals are iCores OR AMD FX. The problem with the FX line, it has been abandoned and the old FX-4xxx can't meet the mustard, FX-6xxx perform LOW on the 2012-2013 titles, leaving ONLY the FX-8xxx as the 'cheap alternative'. The problem with that is Intel with the Haswell line pushed the performance of the i3 to be just below the FX-8, and the i5 ABOVE the FX-8xxx and keep in the same price range of the FX-8xxx series (which they never in the past did with the newest chip verses the 'current' AMD line.

So normally the recommendation is a i5, which with a dedicated video card, even a cheap GTX 750 Ti breaks your budget too easily (and no you can't get 60FPS even at Medium with that on titles currently out, GTX x50 are lowest end cheapo from Nvidia). Hence the ONLY alternative is go Console if your going to be that low cost range.
 
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Thanks for the feedback guys I have adjusted the build, how about this? (http://pcpartpicker.com/user/raysfan98/saved/rMXV3C) The build is a little higher than I really wanted but chances are I will buy and build the PC during thanksgiving around black friday, so some prices will be much lower. Thanks for the help!
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($115.97 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 270 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $455.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-20 22:05 EDT-0400

I wouldn't count on blackfriday deals on any major pc parts, but you never know.
 
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Tom, your point of view is just that. I don't personally agree. The cheapest i5 cpu is the i5-661 at 166.00 compared to the 8320 at 134.00. The 8320 kicks it's ass up and down the board except in single threaded performance where they are almost identical. I realize that's an older i5 though and not really relevant anymore. The closet i5 3rd gen cpu in price is the i5-3330 which performs worse than the 8320 in multi-threaded use but is about 30% faster on single threaded applications.

I do realize there are more single threaded games out right now but we expect that to change plus the i5 is 50 bucks more than the 8320 which is about a dollar per percent of single threaded performance increase, or thereabouts. I guess that's not terrible, but considering the 8320 does play all current games when paired with the right hardware resources, and already supports upcoming instructions the i5 does not plus has better multi-threaded support I'd say it was a better choice for right now on a budget build.

Any of the i5 or i7 cpus that demonstrably whip ass on the 8*** models are far more expensive, not even close in price to the FX units. Unless you're seeing a source for them that I'm not. Not saying you're wrong about them being better, just not necessarily better for limited budgets. In other words, in my opinion, they are not in the same "price range", unless Intel has a far different idea of what constitutes "range" than most of us do.

(By the way, those were at stock speeds. Crank up the OC on the FX, which they do well, and it's a whole new ballgame.)
 
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