Best budget allocation?
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If you don't plan on overclocking, then I would cut the cost of the motherboard and put that money into changing the GPU to a EVGA GTX 970.
Because I can't easily highlight a part you picked an look it up(it wants to take the whole table), I won't bother looking up the case. But I would recommend you get an internal dvd drive and save that $10 - $15.
I would also recommend getting at least a 1 TB HDD because that SSD can fill up fast.
Update: Also the PSU, you can get a better one for cheaper.
Because I can't easily highlight a part you picked an look it up(it wants to take the whole table), I won't bother looking up the case. But I would recommend you get an internal dvd drive and save that $10 - $15.
I would also recommend getting at least a 1 TB HDD because that SSD can fill up fast.
Update: Also the PSU, you can get a better one for cheaper.
What motherboard and PSU would you recommend?
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Well I came up with these two parts as possible replacements for the motherboard and power supply. Also, as I already said, I would recommend going for the GTX 970 and just double check whatever GPU you choose will fit the case since it is a smaller case.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zfLBFT
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zfLBFT/by_merchant/
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($78.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $156.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-20 12:33 EDT-0400
I went with a fully modular PSU since you have a smaller case. It will support most GPUs...but please note that it only has 1 6 pin connector and 1 6+2 pin connector for PCIE connections. The newer 970 980 series GPUs I think use 2 6 pin connectors...so it should be fine with that.
As always you need to compare the features of those components to the ones you already selected to see if they still meet whatever wants and needs you have for them. But overall if you ended up choosing them as replacements, you would end up saving around $93...which could go towards improving the GPU or getting a HDD.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zfLBFT
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zfLBFT/by_merchant/
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($78.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $156.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-20 12:33 EDT-0400
I went with a fully modular PSU since you have a smaller case. It will support most GPUs...but please note that it only has 1 6 pin connector and 1 6+2 pin connector for PCIE connections. The newer 970 980 series GPUs I think use 2 6 pin connectors...so it should be fine with that.
As always you need to compare the features of those components to the ones you already selected to see if they still meet whatever wants and needs you have for them. But overall if you ended up choosing them as replacements, you would end up saving around $93...which could go towards improving the GPU or getting a HDD.
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Well, first off the first monitor you mentioned for the build is much cheaper at Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014375
The second monitor at Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014378
So my few questions are:
1. Do you just plan on using 1080p? 4k will be pretty mainstream within the next 2-3 years probably, especially since GPUs will be able to hit that easily (check out the GTX 970/980)
2. Do you want to play games at more than 60 fps within the next few years?
3. How long do you expect this monitor to last?
4. Did you care about having built in speakers? Because neither of them have built in speakers.
With those questions being asked, the difference between 1ms and 2ms is not huge...and depending on your personal vision abilities and such you might not even notice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014375
The second monitor at Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014378
So my few questions are:
1. Do you just plan on using 1080p? 4k will be pretty mainstream within the next 2-3 years probably, especially since GPUs will be able to hit that easily (check out the GTX 970/980)
2. Do you want to play games at more than 60 fps within the next few years?
3. How long do you expect this monitor to last?
4. Did you care about having built in speakers? Because neither of them have built in speakers.
With those questions being asked, the difference between 1ms and 2ms is not huge...and depending on your personal vision abilities and such you might not even notice.
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Seasonic is cheaper but better quality/rated. The Seasonic one I picked is also fully modular, while the Thermaltake is not..and since you have chosen a smaller case being able to get rid of excess cables is a huge plus. The Seasonic also has better PCIE connectors to help avoid having to use PCIE connection adapters if you choose certain GPUs.
I'm in Australia, so postage from Newegg is killer. Cheaper to buy locally, and pay exorbitant rates :-(
I don't think I'll make the switch within the next three years - it does look pretty good, but I'll probably wait until prices come down.
Unsure - I'm just getting into PC gaming after being a lifetime Playstation user. I've got no reference for frame rates.
Roughly 5 years
Not fussed, I'll use headphones and if required can hook up to existing HT speakers
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If you plan on playing games at 1080p only for the next few years, then I would stick to a 1080p monitor...and with that being said, I would just stick to the 60 hz one that is much cheaper. That will allow you to save some money and put it towards other stuff.
Also, if only going with 60 hz, I would also recommend a GTX 960 or 970 depending on prices in your area. I see that you have the 970 being pretty expensive...and would be plenty to max out games at 1080p 60 fps for the next few years (some games would probably not be optimized right so fps might drop using a lot of AA or MXAA...but that is just how developers are).
Both the 1080p and 970 would last you the next few years...before upgrading to 4k display and a newer GPU. While I am sure that the GPU would last that long...I can't say what settings, because of how tech changes over time...but worse case you would be playing on medium or so by then...just guessing because can't say for sure(no one can).
I don't really see any reason to go for the higher hz monitor for just 1080p...unless you knew for sure that you would be able to tell a significant difference...and even then the price difference is just not there in my opinion. If the 960 is significantly cheaper in your area than the 970 then it would be worth considering also...and I would definitely recommend waiting to see.
And if at all possible purchase the GPU from EVGA because of their Step Up Program (check their website or google it for more info) because it is awesome and I wish I could have used it myself. I have a EVGA 780 Ti SC ACX that I purchased back in December 2013 and while it maxes games out and is awesome...I would probably have used the Step Up Program for a 980 or 980 Ti. Now I am waiting until 2016 or so to upgrade GPUs probably and will probably put my current GPU into a build for my wife.
Also, if only going with 60 hz, I would also recommend a GTX 960 or 970 depending on prices in your area. I see that you have the 970 being pretty expensive...and would be plenty to max out games at 1080p 60 fps for the next few years (some games would probably not be optimized right so fps might drop using a lot of AA or MXAA...but that is just how developers are).
Both the 1080p and 970 would last you the next few years...before upgrading to 4k display and a newer GPU. While I am sure that the GPU would last that long...I can't say what settings, because of how tech changes over time...but worse case you would be playing on medium or so by then...just guessing because can't say for sure(no one can).
I don't really see any reason to go for the higher hz monitor for just 1080p...unless you knew for sure that you would be able to tell a significant difference...and even then the price difference is just not there in my opinion. If the 960 is significantly cheaper in your area than the 970 then it would be worth considering also...and I would definitely recommend waiting to see.
And if at all possible purchase the GPU from EVGA because of their Step Up Program (check their website or google it for more info) because it is awesome and I wish I could have used it myself. I have a EVGA 780 Ti SC ACX that I purchased back in December 2013 and while it maxes games out and is awesome...I would probably have used the Step Up Program for a 980 or 980 Ti. Now I am waiting until 2016 or so to upgrade GPUs probably and will probably put my current GPU into a build for my wife.
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