Intel vs AMD CPU NO FANBOYS ALLOWED

Mojoe134

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There are probably a million of these threads and i am sorry but i was really lazy and did not want to sort through them. A lot of them were pretty old anyways. BUT TO THE POINT.

I'm asking you what is the BEST PROCESSOR FOR GAMING (almost exclusively) It is going to use a GTX 770 for a graphics card so it can not bottleneck it, and it has to fit in my budget of $215.

Also my budget includes a motherboard as well since there are a lot of different CPU sockets i don't know about. What i have heard about though is the FX series is a cheap powerful CPU series but lacks quality and is very hot, and easy to break upon installation and in its package during shipping. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285)

And if i do get a.... lets say a fx-8320 i should really get a non-stock CPU cooler but that wouldn't fit in my budget. But i would really sacrifice power because the rival of the FX-8320 on the Intel side is the i5-4460 but that is too expensive for me to include a motherboard.

Anyways enough of my ranting hopefully you understand my situation out of my blob of text and can help me. Thanks in advance!

p.s: I forgot to add this i will be playing heavily modded arma 2 mods, arma 3, big mount and blade warband battles with and without AI WHILE in a mod like Full Invasion 2 and Floris Mod (about 300 ai at least, and Napoleon Total War with Darth Mod. (If this is not possible at medium settings at 1080p then tell me pl0x the truth hurts i know).
 
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Here is what I came up with though for the Intel build. It's actually better than I thought it would be. This motherboard will allow for you to overclock a "K" series i5 or i7 in the future, it supports SLI and crossfire, USB3.0 headers, large range of ram speeds, and 32GB max ram. This would be my choice for the budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($103.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $228.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-21 15:49 EDT-0400

blue17echo

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For gaming? Get an i3. You don't need 8 cores, and you can get an i5 or i7 later.

The FX stuff is okay, and if you do go AMD, I would recommend a 6300. The 95w TDP means that you dont really need an aftermarket cooler, and you can also go with a more midrange motherboard comfortably. You will have good success in heavily threaded desktop applications. But it will be slower in games than an i3, and there will be less room for upgrading later.
 

dovah-chan

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Lacks quality? If a CPU was lacking in quality then it wouldn't work. The FX-9590 is the AMD CPU that runs extremely hot due to its high factory overclock but an 8320 is alright.

As for easy to break during installation, people might be referring to the accidental bending of pins. If you bend a pin, simply just get some tweezers and bend it back into place (personal experience). I used to own an FX-8350 and it was a great CPU (higher clocked version of the 8320). Although AM3+ is a little dated.
 

dgingeri

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I'm no Intel fanboy. I had several AMD processors from an Athlon 800 up to an Athlon X2 6400+, but the current situation has me running all Intel. The fact of the matter is Intel's architecture simply out does AMD on every level. The only way AMD is able to keep up at any level is with the APUs in entry level machine without discrete graphics. Intel's GPUs suck. Their driver support for the GPUs sucks. AMD simply can't keep up. The bulldozer architecture was a huge disappointment. They need to start over from the ground up before they can even think of catching up to Intel.
 
First off, the FX series are not easier to break than any other CPU out there. They all use little pins on the underside that are easily bent or broke if mishandled.

Now for that kind of budget you are pretty much limited to the FX series (which I think has the best performance for the money), or as stated above, an i3. But I feel like if you go Intel, you are going to have to go with a lower quality motherboard. The 8320 would be a very nice choice for you, and the stock cooler is just fine as long as you don't try to overclock it.

Here is a build that will allow overclocking once you get an aftermarket CPU cooler. It also supports SLI.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($134.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.49 @ Newegg)
Total: $209.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-21 15:42 EDT-0400

Next, do you already have the GTX 770? Because if you are purchasing the 770, I would recommend getting this instead. It's only about $40 more than the 770 and is quite a bit more performance.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $329.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-21 15:34 EDT-0400
 
Here is what I came up with though for the Intel build. It's actually better than I thought it would be. This motherboard will allow for you to overclock a "K" series i5 or i7 in the future, it supports SLI and crossfire, USB3.0 headers, large range of ram speeds, and 32GB max ram. This would be my choice for the budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($103.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $228.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-21 15:49 EDT-0400
 
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ImDaBaron

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That's actually really good for the price
 


Thanks. I thought the same thing. I was able to fit better components into the budget than I thought I would.
 

Mojoe134

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That looks pretty good actually and i bet i can upgrade the cpu in the future if i have problems. But will it take the GTX 970 and not bottleneck it. But i have this other motherboard for half the price how does it look? Will it decrease the performance while playing games?
 


I think it might be pretty close, but yes the i3 should bottleneck the 970. It will really depend on the game. Some games it might not, others it will. But I think it is still the best option as there is a very nice upgrade path with the 1150 socket.