Pentium G3258 or FX-6300?

PriideHD · Sep 22, 2014

So I wanted to see what I could get for a £450 Gaming PC. It won't be hardcore gaming, just mild. I am also expecting at least Medium (or High, if possible) settings on 1080p resolution.

I was recommended a Pentium G3258 with a Z97 board and was told it can perform as good as the i5-4690K (or something like that). However I don't think I'll be upgrading in the future and having only two cores worries me for future games.

Before all this though, I had my mind set on the FX-6300.

What would be the better choice for my preference? I know I can't get much with only around £450 but I'm not looking into playing very intensive games but maybe like Battlefield 3 or 4. Other games will be like CS:GO, Skyrim, DayZ and the ArmA series.

Also, if you don't mind, can you make me an entire new PC build on PCPartpicker to see your thoughts on this budget build?

Thanks.

Proofy · Sep 22, 2014

Those ARE very intensive games. If you DON'T plan to upgrade your CPU in the future (to i5 4690k lets say since you're getting z97 mobo with G3258) then go with FX 6300 and overclock it.

Here is the build I would recommend you

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-K Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($298.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($32.85 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $677.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-22 12:13 EDT-0400

PS: new egg has a discount atm on CPU and dvd/rw

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1831435&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

With this build you will get 127fps on battlefield 4 medium video setting 55.7fps on ultra settings(on 1080p screen) which is really really good

MeteorsRaining · Sep 22, 2014

If you don't want to OC, then this build will be better than FX 6:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£81.99 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£67.02 @ More Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£60.77 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£129.98 @ Novatech)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.79 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.36 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£10.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £461.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-22 17:09 BST+0100

PriideHD · Sep 22, 2014

Thanks for the two guys above for answering. I guess I left a part out which is:

I don't mind OC'ing but if it's within budget then yeah, I will OC.

Proofy · Sep 22, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($197.97 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-K Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($298.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($32.85 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $758.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-22 12:19 EDT-0400

This would be the best build for 463 pounds which is 758 dollars

I was looking on usa pcpartpicker tho it's more expensive in uk...

stick with
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor (£76.74 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-K Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£42.03 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£84.07 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II Video Card (£217.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: Rosewill 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Total: £456.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-22 17:21 BST+0100

MeteorsRaining · Sep 22, 2014

Very well, FX 6 is better than Pentium. A good build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£71.52 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.96 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£64.18 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£60.77 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£129.98 @ Novatech)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.79 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.36 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£10.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £473.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-22 17:22 BST+0100

3Dns · Sep 22, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£71.52 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.96 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£45.79 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£57.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card (£151.54 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£31.88 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£43.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£10.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £474.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-22 17:22 BST+0100

PriideHD · Sep 22, 2014

Is it true though that the Pentium can perform as well as the i5 4690K when overclocked? If so, at what speeds and by how many fps?

MeteorsRaining · Sep 22, 2014

PriideHD :

Nope, never, you're comparing a quad core with a dual core. i5 is leaps and bounds ahead of pentium and FX 6 in gaming.

Proofy · Sep 22, 2014

Nop, not true, especially not overclocked 4690k

logainofhades · Sep 22, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£139.53 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£35.15 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston Fury White Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card (£119.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Zalman ZM-T3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£18.87 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.06 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£12.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £460.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-22 18:24 BST+0100

PriideHD · Sep 22, 2014

Looks like I've been deceived then. Thanks for your advice. I think I'm gonna' get the 6300 but if I can stretch my budget a little, I might try find an i5 on eBay.

Also, I'm looking at the NZXT Phantom 240. The Hyper 212 Evo doesn't fit so which cooler should I use that's very similar, especially in price.

MeteorsRaining · Sep 22, 2014

Phantom 240 is a bit overkill for your build, not looks wise (lol), but rather cost wise. I'd spend some bucks applied here to GPU or better CPU/ MoBo/ cooler.

PriideHD · Sep 22, 2014

I see that but it was just out of curiosity, haha. If I was to get the case though, what CPU cooler should I get?

Proofy · Sep 22, 2014

I have already send you the best build for your money with i5 from your pcpartpicker uk so you don't have to bug yourself with ebay.

Also the case is mATX and is really really nice. And the gpu I have put in the build is the best bang for the buck for 1080p (you can go for GTX 970 if you have the money for it)

You don't need cpu cooler because you can't overclock it anyway so stock will be fine and that i5 is much much faster than fx 6300 in gaming use

MeteorsRaining · Sep 22, 2014

PriideHD :

If on budget (as you are), I'd get TX3. Or if you want something really powerful and quiet, the Noctua U12S is a great choice.

jeffredo · Sep 22, 2014

I would suggest not getting a CPU on a basically dead platform. The G3258 in many cases is as fast at stock as most FX processors. Overclock it to the typical 4.4-4.5 Ghz and it will usually beat them all quite handily (including the FX-8350). All while using much less power even at max OC. Plus having the 1150 chipset motherboard gives you upgrade options down the road (even if you think it'll never happen) that will be much better than any AMD offering. Its also about £20 cheaper than the FX-6300.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/06/24/intel-pentium-g3258-review/5

Obnoxious · Sep 22, 2014

For £450 you can build a solid gaming computer, if you're willing to purchase used parts (mainly CPU and GPU). I suggest as I too am from the UK, and was able to build my gaming system for £330. I'd recommend you purchase an Intel processor, primarily due to better single-core performance.

Here is a build I would recommend:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£89.00 @ eBay)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£55.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£57.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270 2GB DirectCU II Video Card (£104.00 @ eBay)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£36.35 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£46.36 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.98 @ CCL Computers)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan (£5.87 @ Aria PC)
Total: £442.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-22 19:26 BST+0100

I would absolutely recommend the build above; you should be able to most run games without compromise with the i5, 8GB RAM and R9 270.

All the best.

con635 · Sep 22, 2014

Obnoxious :

This, absolutely this, I don't know why its not recommended more on here for budget building, now, only if your experienced enough to build and troubleshoot without support mostly! Also fwiw I think ivy/sandy and alot of patience gives best ebay p.p.p. eg It took a month but I recently got a z75 mobo refurbed with 6 month warranty for £30 and ivy bridge xeon (i7 3770) brand new missing packaging for £90 on the bay as well as a £35 6 month old hd7770, totaly unbeatable p.p.p. imo.
Obnoxious, your my type of guy!

Proofy · Sep 22, 2014

You guys do realize that R9 270 can't compete with GTX 770 right ? And that i3 4130 is faster than i5 4430 in single threaded performance. That being said if you compare i3 4130/GTX 770 with i5 4430/R9 270 || i3 and nvidia will win big time

MeteorsRaining · Sep 23, 2014

Proofy :

You don't realize your build and statements have multiple mistakes. You can't pair i3 with high end cards, it'll bottleneck. You can't run 770 on 450W PSU. You can't buy 770 when 970 is available for the same price and OMG performance.

Obnoxious is more precisely right, he'll need Intel way for a better upgrade path. Logan's build is great too, I suggested a similar build but he accommodated i5 there, kudos! But 770 with i3, seriously?

FX is the choice only when you want to OC it and don't wanna upgrade for some years, the tri core performance (its 3 moduled) may be slightly better than i3. Still not good enough for single core performance.

Last but not the least, you'll probably blow up '770+i3' on a 450W Rosewill.

PriideHD · Sep 23, 2014

Thanks for the answers above. I think the R9 270 will be more than enough for me. I decided to go with Obnoxious's build because I can find parts a lot cheaper which will save me more money.

Once again, thank you!

MeteorsRaining · Sep 23, 2014

Glad to help

Proofy · Sep 24, 2014

MeteorsRaining :

HAHAHAHAH funny. Short answer , no it will not bottleneck enough to notice without an FPS monitoring utility on the screen!!! Meaning you can't see any bottlenecking with your eyes. MBWAH

A bottleneck shows with a Radeon 290X/GTX 780. Battlefield 4 @1080p(ultra settings) it will average 59 fps, vs. 72 fps for an i5-4670K(not overclocked). It's only a dual core, but Windows sees 4 threads(Intel's hyper threading technology). And Intel cores are very strong. However that is with 290X/GTX 780 I repeat. You can't notice any bottleneck pairing the i3 that I recommended up there with GTX770 like I said! Go do your homework.

It will bottleneck GTX970, that's the reason why I picked 770

Now go compare 770 with r9 270... Yak right?

And the PSU will be enough, please go do your homework again or ask an expert would it be sufficient for gaming purposes. Meaning PC will not be on full load like ever and won't be on 24/7.

WhiteSnake91 · Sep 24, 2014

I agree with the above, scouring ebay for an i5 used by a reputable seller can be an amazing deal. They usually don't go for much more than an i3 costs. I'm personally a little wary of buying a motherboard off ebay but if you want to save money and it's a good seller, why not.

Hell, you can get an hd7950 for a little over 100 dollars now on ebay. An i5,7950, and good mobo off ebay is an amazing deal for not much money.

Not sure why buying good used parts isn't talked about more here. I've found some great deals on used stuff or even new stuff on ebay.

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