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September 23, 2014 7:51:46 PM

Hi all, so today I'm looking for a new cpu cooler. I'm going to be oc'ing a 4690k(most likely) in the future when I obtain the cpu.
The h100 is 50$ on newegg as refurb
The h60 2013 is 50$ on newegg as refurb
And the seidon v is 50$ new.
I'm open to suggestions or comments. I'd like to order tonight, so fast answers are appreciated!!!

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September 23, 2014 8:00:03 PM

Rybo said:
Hi all, so today I'm looking for a new cpu cooler. I'm going to be oc'ing a 4690k(most likely) in the future when I obtain the cpu.
The h100 is 50$ on newegg as refurb
The h60 2013 is 50$ on newegg as refurb
And the seidon v is 50$ new.
I'm open to suggestions or comments. I'd like to order tonight, so fast answers are appreciated!!!


Each are great for what they are tasked for, but I would recommend the H100 only because my friend has one in his RIG and he get's cool temps on his 4770k OC'd at 4.4 GHZ. Also the H60 performs as well as the air cooler Hyper 212 EVO so it would be a waste(EVO is like $28,98 and H60 is like $50) I do not know about the Seidon... i guess they both perform the same?

I have read that they are both great each way you go :p .
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September 23, 2014 8:03:37 PM

Newbbuilder11 said:
Rybo said:
Hi all, so today I'm looking for a new cpu cooler. I'm going to be oc'ing a 4690k(most likely) in the future when I obtain the cpu.
The h100 is 50$ on newegg as refurb
The h60 2013 is 50$ on newegg as refurb
And the seidon v is 50$ new.
I'm open to suggestions or comments. I'd like to order tonight, so fast answers are appreciated!!!


Each are great for what they are tasked for, but I would recommend the H100 only because my friend has one in his RIG and he get's cool temps on his 4770k OC'd at 4.4 GHZ. Also the H60 performs as well as the air cooler Hyper 212 EVO so it would be a waste(EVO is like $28,98 and H60 is like $50) I do not know about the Seidon... i guess they both perform the same?

I figured the h100 would be the best choice, but from reviews I read, buying a refurb h100 is like playing the lotto. There are quite a few faulty units it seems.

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September 23, 2014 8:05:55 PM

Rybo said:
Newbbuilder11 said:
Rybo said:
Hi all, so today I'm looking for a new cpu cooler. I'm going to be oc'ing a 4690k(most likely) in the future when I obtain the cpu.
The h100 is 50$ on newegg as refurb
The h60 2013 is 50$ on newegg as refurb
And the seidon v is 50$ new.
I'm open to suggestions or comments. I'd like to order tonight, so fast answers are appreciated!!!


Each are great for what they are tasked for, but I would recommend the H100 only because my friend has one in his RIG and he get's cool temps on his 4770k OC'd at 4.4 GHZ. Also the H60 performs as well as the air cooler Hyper 212 EVO so it would be a waste(EVO is like $28,98 and H60 is like $50) I do not know about the Seidon... i guess they both perform the same?

I figured the h100 would be the best choice, but from reviews I read, buying a refurb h100 is like playing the lotto. There are quite a few faulty units it seems.



If you do not want to risk it then buy the seidon brand new. They are both great at doing the job and achieving the cool temps you need.
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September 23, 2014 8:11:36 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
I can't justify any of those..... they don't perform any better, thermally or acoustically, .... in fact they are worse.....than the better air coolers so why risk having water inside ya PC ?

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/281843-29-corsair-exp...



Water cooling > Air cool any-day man. They actually perform in-cases better than the regular Air Cooler. They also give a nice Clean Look. If you had a water cooling brick with 3 top notch fans on it then it would beat any air cooler.

But since this is only with 2 he can use Noctua's on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OC0rZCal24

And HiTechLegion with the seidon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzRe_pkcE7c
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September 23, 2014 8:29:47 PM

AVOID REFURB AIO COOLERS. Most are returns with faulty pumps that the retailer didn't bother checking, so they just resell them.

Also h100 in general (as well as h80) has a weak pump that is prone to failure.

However I do endorse water-cooling. I would suggest looking at the h80i or h60 (NEW ones of course)

I use the older h50 and it keeps my cpu (150W tdp OCed) cool and quiet.
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September 23, 2014 8:33:34 PM

I had a Hyper 212 on my i5 2500k OCed to 3.7. Just this summer I switched to a H100i and OCed to 4.5. Whoever said that they don't make a difference hasn't used any watercooling. It's true that at stock speeds, you won't see a difference in the temps. But with the 212, 3.7 was a high as I could get and keep load temps under 70. With the H100i load temps were at 40. Load temps at 4.5 (fastest I could get stable), load temps are 55-58. OCing is where water cooling will start to shine.

With that said, I did replace the H100i's stock fans, just today actually. They run fine, but were a little loud on balance and performance mode. I actually don't use those modes, and keep it on quite mode. However, with the stock fans on quite mode they had a "wub wub wub" vibration sound to them that I found annoying, and you can look it up.

Now keep in mind I aim to run a silent setup, so the fans on the other settings were still pretty good. Not noisy, just made a sound that I could hear and that's now how I like to build my systems. I replaced them with a pair of Noctua NF-F12s and it's pretty awesome now, seeing as how the corsair link software allows me to set RPMs for each fan and the pump how I see fit.
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September 23, 2014 8:55:25 PM

Hmm, well I've heard good things about the water cooling units, but due to my tight budget, I'm probably just going for a air cooler alternative. I'm still unsure.
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September 23, 2014 8:58:54 PM

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Water cooling > Air cool any-day man. They actually perform in-cases better than the regular Air Cooler. They also give a nice Clean Look. If you had a water cooling brick with 3 top notch fans on it then it would beat any air cooler.


I know about water cooling .... I'm typing from a box with a custom water loop w/ 5 x 140mm rads, 15 fans running dead silent, twin water cooled 780 GFX cards (26% OC), water cooled 4770k CPU (4.6 Ghz) and water cooled MoBo driven by two tandem water pumps thru rigid acrylic tubing. CPU temps top out at 74C and the GPUs at 39C under full load stress testing

But this here is a totally different subject ..... what we are talking about here is AIOs with a single 120mm / 140mm radiator ..... or a refurbished unit (bad idea)

-No 120/140mm AIO approaches the thermal performance of the better air coolers, at any fan speed.
-No 120/140mm AIO approaches the acoustic performance of the better air coolers, at any fan speed.

The simple fact is that there is no 120/140mm AIO water cooler that can touch the likes of air coolers like the Phanteks PH-TC14-PE, Noctua DH-14 and 15 or Cryorig R1 .... not even close.

There is no 240/280 mm unit made which beats the Cryorig R1 or even the Phanteks PH-TC14-PE at comparable fans speeds and noise levels. The Corsair H110 ties the Noctua DH-14 and trails the Phanteks by a little bit.

Give a listen here ... that's just too loud
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2013/03/12/swiftech-h220-vs...

Yes, you can swap the fans out of a H100i for slow speed ones so now your investment is $140 and you have got a unit that performs comparable to a $30 Hyper 212. The success of the AIOs is based upon extreme fan speeds. As you can see here .....

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/04/12/alphacool-nexxxo...

At 2200 rpm, the UT60-360 gets 326 watts of cooling from 2200 rpm fans. Drop that to 1,000 rpm and it gets just 151 watts of cooling.... the same thing happens when you take Noctua 1300 rpm fans and put them on in place of the 2700 rpm Corsair fans.

There is just one AIO that I would ever consider buying - The Swiftech H220-X

1. H220-X is copper, not aluminum like the H100i and its ilk (aluminum is a bad thing in water cooling world)
2. H220-X tops every other AIO and air cooler on the market
3. H220-X beats all those guys while being less than 1/4 as loud as the H100i
4. The loop in the H220-X can be opened up and the cooler used to push water thru auxillary rads, GFX card water blocks, RAM water blocks, MoBo water blocks, etc.
5. It has a reservoir and coolant level monitor.
6. It costs the same as the H100i with the Noctua fans.

Outside of custom water cooling, DICE, LN2, phase change, etc..... The H220-X is the pinnacle in CPU cooling today and the thing that comes closest to it ? Not the Glacier 240L, not the NZXT X60/61 .... but two air coolers from Cryorig and Noctua.

http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/liquid/4087...

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In terms of performance, well….we could simply leave it at the fact that the H220X is simply the best performing out-of-the-box cooler you can buy today. Period. It slightly betters its predecessor, the H220, as well as the Glacer 240L that is equipped with far more powerful and louder fans. The NZXT X60/61 comes close in terms of performance, but at the expense of far more noise and far less compatibility. 240mm CLCs can’t touch the H220X in all out performance, and at tolerable noise levels the H220X flat out embarrasses them. The Cryorig R1 and Noctua NH-D15 come closest in matching the H220X in terms of performance and noise, but fall short... What more can you say? We put the best out of the box solutions up against the H220X, and the H220X walked away a clear winner and did so with absolutely astonishing performance to noise. With all of this performance the H220X never topped 40 dB at full speed.
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September 23, 2014 9:13:24 PM

I'm probably going to purchase this unit tonight, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
After viewing some reviews, the fans running at 1100rpm only run 6 degrees C warmer than a h100i at 1500rpm.
6 degrees, pfft. Could care less, I won't be OC'ing a ton anyways. The red and black also fits my hopes for color really well as well, and the 35$ after MIR is perfect for me. :) 

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September 23, 2014 9:38:09 PM

Red and Black you say :) 

I did a red and black themed build ... looked a lot like this but it had red (Mushkjin) RAM ... was ina white Corsair 500R



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