"ide male to usb female" I know I'm in storage

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ggildas

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Hi, please bear with me on this one,

With flash drives increasing quickly in capacity and dropping in price per Gig, I had an idea. I googled "ide male to usb female" and got only 2 results.

We all know that you can plug a USB HD into a laptop, to extend storage capacity, with an adapter/cable. So this means that:
1. USB HD can communicate in both directions to the MOBO and OS
2. USB HD draws power from the Laptop
3. A USB Flash can be made to read as a HD

My thinking goes like this.
1. Why not reverse the process

So you end up with a piece of kit that looks like this
USB Female -> IDE Male -> IDE Female on MOBO

If this process works, you could plug a Flash drive directly into your Laptops MOBO as a primary HD. Thus increasing storage and longevity, as IDEs die off.

Would it work? Is it out there already? Have I created a massive syllogism?

Your thoughts and advice please
 
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What your suggesting is pointless and idiotic. Why not just plug it into the internal USB header (those extra pins for the USB ports in the front of your case) and boot from that??? There's no need to go to IDE.

Plus USB and IDE use completely different command sets. IDE uses the ATA command set, while USB uses it's own command set overlayed with the SCSI command set to communicate with modern USB native drives. While they do make USB adapters which can bridge the connection, they are driver based and couldn't work in the opposite direction as ATA doesn't support drivers. (thus the reason your hard drive works without any drivers installed first).

Even if you created the cable you're talking about, it wouldn't work.
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The USB Mass Storage Device class used for USB sticks and various media players utilizes the SCSI transparent command set with the USB interface used as a transport medium.

External USB hard disk drives use a traditional ATA hard disk drive that has a PATA or SATA interface and hook that interface up to a USB to ATA/ATAPI bridge. This bridge device translates the ATA commands operating on the SATA/PATA interface into SCSI commands operating on the USB interface.

In both cases, the USB physical layer is nothing more than a transport medium.
 
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DataMedic

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What your suggesting is pointless and idiotic. Why not just plug it into the internal USB header (those extra pins for the USB ports in the front of your case) and boot from that??? There's no need to go to IDE.

Plus USB and IDE use completely different command sets. IDE uses the ATA command set, while USB uses it's own command set overlayed with the SCSI command set to communicate with modern USB native drives. While they do make USB adapters which can bridge the connection, they are driver based and couldn't work in the opposite direction as ATA doesn't support drivers. (thus the reason your hard drive works without any drivers installed first).

Even if you created the cable you're talking about, it wouldn't work.
 
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