How do I make my cloned SSD (m.2/msata) my boot drive? (Laptop)
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Accolades
September 24, 2014 10:50:08 PM
I cloned my HDD over to my SSD, how do I make my SSD my primary boot drive? I've changed Boot Mode to [Legacy Support], Boot Priority to [Legacy First], and set the SSD at the top of the list. But I am still unable to wipe the HDD and my computer is still not booting from the SSD. (I use AOMEI backupper to clone)
SSD is a m.2 (similar to msata)
HDD is regular
they both are connected to the laptop at the same time
SSD is a m.2 (similar to msata)
HDD is regular
they both are connected to the laptop at the same time
More about : make cloned ssd msata boot drive laptop
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sirstinky
September 24, 2014 11:02:46 PM
Is this a desktop of a laptop? If you cloned your primary HDD to an SSD then you should be able to boot from it. In the BIOS, you need to select the boot drive from the list of devices in the boot menu (it will have a long name that matches the model number of the drive). Make that your first boot drive (not necessarily first boot device, which is usually the floppy if you have one, or the optical drive).
What I've done in that case is take out the HDD and just run the SSD so there's no confusion between boot devices. Once you establish a boot and can get into Windows, then you install the big HDD and format it and use it for storage (install apps and keep your files on it). I am not familiar with AMOEI backupper, but if it's line any other cloning program, it should work the same way.
What I've done in that case is take out the HDD and just run the SSD so there's no confusion between boot devices. Once you establish a boot and can get into Windows, then you install the big HDD and format it and use it for storage (install apps and keep your files on it). I am not familiar with AMOEI backupper, but if it's line any other cloning program, it should work the same way.
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Accolades
September 24, 2014 11:28:36 PM
sirstinky said:
Is this a desktop of a laptop? If you cloned your primary HDD to an SSD then you should be able to boot from it. In the BIOS, you need to select the boot drive from the list of devices in the boot menu (it will have a long name that matches the model number of the drive). Make that your first boot drive (not necessarily first boot device, which is usually the floppy if you have one, or the optical drive). What I've done in that case is take out the HDD and just run the SSD so there's no confusion between boot devices. Once you establish a boot and can get into Windows, then you install the big HDD and format it and use it for storage (install apps and keep your files on it). I am not familiar with AMOEI backupper, but if it's line any other cloning program, it should work the same way.
It's a laptop so i'd prefer it if I didn't have to pull out a drive but this is a picture of what my UEFI boot looks like http://imgur.com/DtFHG9W M2 SSD = SSD and ST1000 = HDD. I think changing the EFI boot manager may work but i'm not sure how.
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sirstinky
September 25, 2014 10:39:33 AM
You are using Windows 8 I presume?
The BIOS is still pointing to the old drive (ST1000LM). You could try to change the boot mode from legacy back to the UEFI (did you change it before?). From my research, that's going to be the most straightforward course of action. You want the EFI to point to the M2 SSD, not the ST1000LM. I would set your first boot drive to the optical drive HL-DT-ST and the second to the M2 SSD. Once you get into Windows on the SSD, find your other drive from the computer properties disk manager and format it NTFS.
The BIOS is still pointing to the old drive (ST1000LM). You could try to change the boot mode from legacy back to the UEFI (did you change it before?). From my research, that's going to be the most straightforward course of action. You want the EFI to point to the M2 SSD, not the ST1000LM. I would set your first boot drive to the optical drive HL-DT-ST and the second to the M2 SSD. Once you get into Windows on the SSD, find your other drive from the computer properties disk manager and format it NTFS.
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Accolades
September 25, 2014 11:09:54 AM
sirstinky said:
You are using Windows 8 I presume?The BIOS is still pointing to the old drive (ST1000LM). You could try to change the boot mode from legacy back to the UEFI (did you change it before?). From my research, that's going to be the most straightforward course of action. You want the EFI to point to the M2 SSD, not the ST1000LM. I would set your first boot drive to the optical drive HL-DT-ST and the second to the M2 SSD. Once you get into Windows on the SSD, find your other drive from the computer properties disk manager and format it NTFS. Hope that works.
I'll try that and get back to you. Thanks. and yes it was originally UEFI
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Accolades
September 25, 2014 11:45:02 AM
Accolades
September 25, 2014 12:58:34 PM
Accolades
September 25, 2014 1:39:22 PM
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September 25, 2014 1:57:07 PM
Accolades
September 25, 2014 2:14:20 PM
IrvSp
September 25, 2014 2:54:38 PM
I'm thinking you only basically copied over the C: partition. Booting with Secure Boot uses others on the Primary drive.
Google "cloning hard drive to SSD in laptop with secure boot" and you'll find many pages to look at.
You didn't detail how you cloned either? Most laptops will not accept 2 disks, so I assume you used one external? That info might help. Backup S/W is not the same as cloning a boot partition. That will only 'restore' the C: partition, not the boot record or MBR of any GPT data that is needed for boot.
Personally, I used (on a desktop) Paragon's Migrate OS to SSD (http://www.paragon-software.com/technologies/components...) and it did the whole job for me. Even set up the BIOS to boot from the SSD. I also left the original hard drive in, but it seems the other partitions from the old primary drive were copied over to the SSD. That works out well for me as I can always boot the OLD C: if need be.
Google "cloning hard drive to SSD in laptop with secure boot" and you'll find many pages to look at.
You didn't detail how you cloned either? Most laptops will not accept 2 disks, so I assume you used one external? That info might help. Backup S/W is not the same as cloning a boot partition. That will only 'restore' the C: partition, not the boot record or MBR of any GPT data that is needed for boot.
Personally, I used (on a desktop) Paragon's Migrate OS to SSD (http://www.paragon-software.com/technologies/components...) and it did the whole job for me. Even set up the BIOS to boot from the SSD. I also left the original hard drive in, but it seems the other partitions from the old primary drive were copied over to the SSD. That works out well for me as I can always boot the OLD C: if need be.
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Accolades
September 25, 2014 3:34:09 PM
IrvSp said:
I'm thinking you only basically copied over the C: partition. Booting with Secure Boot uses others on the Primary drive. Google "cloning hard drive to SSD in laptop with secure boot" and you'll find many pages to look at.
You didn't detail how you cloned either? Most laptops will not accept 2 disks, so I assume you used one external? That info might help. Backup S/W is not the same as cloning a boot partition. That will only 'restore' the C: partition, not the boot record or MBR of any GPT data that is needed for boot.
Personally, I used (on a desktop) Paragon's Migrate OS to SSD (http://www.paragon-software.com/technologies/components...) and it did the whole job for me. Even set up the BIOS to boot from the SSD. I also left the original hard drive in, but it seems the other partitions from the old primary drive were copied over to the SSD. That works out well for me as I can always boot the OLD C: if need be.
I put in a m.2 ssd and yes i copied the entire C: partition and only that over to the ssd.
But when i removed the entire HDD it was stuck in some loop. And i'm not sure how to disable secure boot. Not sure if i can at all. Laptop in question is Lenovo's y410p
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September 25, 2014 4:13:45 PM
IrvSp said:
I'm thinking you only basically copied over the C: partition. Booting with Secure Boot uses others on the Primary drive. Google "cloning hard drive to SSD in laptop with secure boot" and you'll find many pages to look at.
You didn't detail how you cloned either? Most laptops will not accept 2 disks, so I assume you used one external? That info might help. Backup S/W is not the same as cloning a boot partition. That will only 'restore' the C: partition, not the boot record or MBR of any GPT data that is needed for boot.
Personally, I used (on a desktop) Paragon's Migrate OS to SSD (http://www.paragon-software.com/technologies/components...) and it did the whole job for me. Even set up the BIOS to boot from the SSD. I also left the original hard drive in, but it seems the other partitions from the old primary drive were copied over to the SSD. That works out well for me as I can always boot the OLD C: if need be.
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-drive-cloning... i used the one right above Paragon
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September 25, 2014 7:16:21 PM
sirstinky
September 25, 2014 7:18:22 PM
Windows 8 does things a little differently than 7 or XP or Vista. If the laptop came with Windows 8, to my knowledge by default, the system boot properties is set to the U/EFI protocol, not legacy. I am not sure what happened in your case, but you need to get out of legacy and back into UEFI. I think that would go a long ways in fixing the issue. Try this article http://www.wikihow.com/Change-BIOS-Mode-from-UEFI-to-Le... It will show you how to disable secure boot. You'd have to do this from the drive that lets you into Windows though.
So far I haven't found any way to switch legacy back to UEFI. That might be an issue that could only be fixed by flashing your firmware or reinstalling Windows. That might not even be the issue, it's possible that it's something else like a corrupted file.
So far I haven't found any way to switch legacy back to UEFI. That might be an issue that could only be fixed by flashing your firmware or reinstalling Windows. That might not even be the issue, it's possible that it's something else like a corrupted file.
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Accolades
September 25, 2014 8:20:32 PM
sirstinky said:
Windows 8 does things a little differently than 7 or XP or Vista. If the laptop came with Windows 8, to my knowledge by default, the system boot properties is set to the U/EFI protocol, not legacy. I am not sure what happened in your case, but you need to get out of legacy and back into UEFI. I think that would go a long ways in fixing the issue. Try this article http://www.wikihow.com/Change-BIOS-Mode-from-UEFI-to-Le... It will show you how to disable secure boot. You'd have to do this from the drive that lets you into Windows though. So far I haven't found any way to switch legacy back to UEFI. That might be an issue that could only be fixed by flashing your firmware or reinstalling Windows. That might not even be the issue, it's possible that it's something else like a corrupted file.
Thanks I'll look into that.
If i end up having to reinstall windows, any clues on how to do that when my copy came preinstalled with the computer?
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September 25, 2014 8:22:22 PM
sirstinky said:
Windows 8 does things a little differently than 7 or XP or Vista. If the laptop came with Windows 8, to my knowledge by default, the system boot properties is set to the U/EFI protocol, not legacy. I am not sure what happened in your case, but you need to get out of legacy and back into UEFI. I think that would go a long ways in fixing the issue. Try this article http://www.wikihow.com/Change-BIOS-Mode-from-UEFI-to-Le... It will show you how to disable secure boot. You'd have to do this from the drive that lets you into Windows though. So far I haven't found any way to switch legacy back to UEFI. That might be an issue that could only be fixed by flashing your firmware or reinstalling Windows. That might not even be the issue, it's possible that it's something else like a corrupted file.
Oh yeah, I've already seen that article. I didn't find a secure boot option in my bios/uefi
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sirstinky
September 25, 2014 11:31:52 PM
Accolades said:
sirstinky said:
Windows 8 does things a little differently than 7 or XP or Vista. If the laptop came with Windows 8, to my knowledge by default, the system boot properties is set to the U/EFI protocol, not legacy. I am not sure what happened in your case, but you need to get out of legacy and back into UEFI. I think that would go a long ways in fixing the issue. Try this article http://www.wikihow.com/Change-BIOS-Mode-from-UEFI-to-Le... It will show you how to disable secure boot. You'd have to do this from the drive that lets you into Windows though. So far I haven't found any way to switch legacy back to UEFI. That might be an issue that could only be fixed by flashing your firmware or reinstalling Windows. That might not even be the issue, it's possible that it's something else like a corrupted file.
Thanks I'll look into that.
If i end up having to reinstall windows, any clues on how to do that when my copy came preinstalled with the computer?
If it didn't come with a recovery disk (a CD boot disk to repair Windows if it becomes corrupted or unrecoverable), your PC came with a recovery partition on the hard drive that lets you repair install Windows if necessary. As far as doing that, you do it from within Windows. It's in the system tools or settings (I think, I don't know how Windows 8 does it) it will be called system recovery or recovery/restore or something like that. Obviously, back up your files first because it will wipe the system.
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IrvSp
September 26, 2014 5:26:38 AM
Accolades said:
IrvSp said:
I'm thinking you only basically copied over the C: partition. Booting with Secure Boot uses others on the Primary drive. Google "cloning hard drive to SSD in laptop with secure boot" and you'll find many pages to look at.
You didn't detail how you cloned either? Most laptops will not accept 2 disks, so I assume you used one external? That info might help. Backup S/W is not the same as cloning a boot partition. That will only 'restore' the C: partition, not the boot record or MBR of any GPT data that is needed for boot.
Personally, I used (on a desktop) Paragon's Migrate OS to SSD (http://www.paragon-software.com/technologies/components...) and it did the whole job for me. Even set up the BIOS to boot from the SSD. I also left the original hard drive in, but it seems the other partitions from the old primary drive were copied over to the SSD. That works out well for me as I can always boot the OLD C: if need be.
I put in a m.2 ssd and yes i copied the entire C: partition and only that over to the ssd.
But when i removed the entire HDD it was stuck in some loop. And i'm not sure how to disable secure boot. Not sure if i can at all. Laptop in question is Lenovo's y410p
The has to be OTHER partitions that are read during boot on the boot drive. I ran PARTDISK and checked my boot drive:
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DISKPART> list disk
Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
-------- ------------- ------- ------- --- ---
Disk 0 Online 931 GB 2048 KB *
* Disk 1 Online 111 GB 1024 KB *
Disk 2 Online 931 GB 0 B
Disk 3 No Media 0 B 0 B
Disk 4 No Media 0 B 0 B
Disk 5 No Media 0 B 0 B
Disk 6 No Media 0 B 0 B
DISKPART> list part
Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 System 500 MB 1024 KB
Partition 2 Primary 110 GB 502 MB
Partition 3 Recovery 898 MB 110 GB
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Disk 1 is my SSD. Partition 1 on it is the EFI System Partition and I suspect that is what you are missing. The Paragon program I showed handles this and recreated it during the cloning process. Many Back-up programs can't handle uEFI/GPT drives and do not create this partition. My back-up program did not and that is why I had to buy the Paragon program. So do but usually NOT the free versions or they are too old and do not support uEFI/GPT.
It is possible that if you do a CLEAN install to the SSD and THEN clone over the C: drive it might just fix the problem? That is do a NEW install using the install media to the SSD, make sure it boots, and then clone the C: partition over.
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Accolades
September 26, 2014 5:53:17 AM
IrvSp said:
Accolades said:
IrvSp said:
I'm thinking you only basically copied over the C: partition. Booting with Secure Boot uses others on the Primary drive. Google "cloning hard drive to SSD in laptop with secure boot" and you'll find many pages to look at.
You didn't detail how you cloned either? Most laptops will not accept 2 disks, so I assume you used one external? That info might help. Backup S/W is not the same as cloning a boot partition. That will only 'restore' the C: partition, not the boot record or MBR of any GPT data that is needed for boot.
Personally, I used (on a desktop) Paragon's Migrate OS to SSD (http://www.paragon-software.com/technologies/components...) and it did the whole job for me. Even set up the BIOS to boot from the SSD. I also left the original hard drive in, but it seems the other partitions from the old primary drive were copied over to the SSD. That works out well for me as I can always boot the OLD C: if need be.
I put in a m.2 ssd and yes i copied the entire C: partition and only that over to the ssd.
But when i removed the entire HDD it was stuck in some loop. And i'm not sure how to disable secure boot. Not sure if i can at all. Laptop in question is Lenovo's y410p
The has to be OTHER partitions that are read during boot on the boot drive. I ran PARTDISK and checked my boot drive:
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DISKPART> list disk
Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
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Disk 0 Online 931 GB 2048 KB *
* Disk 1 Online 111 GB 1024 KB *
Disk 2 Online 931 GB 0 B
Disk 3 No Media 0 B 0 B
Disk 4 No Media 0 B 0 B
Disk 5 No Media 0 B 0 B
Disk 6 No Media 0 B 0 B
DISKPART> list part
Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 System 500 MB 1024 KB
Partition 2 Primary 110 GB 502 MB
Partition 3 Recovery 898 MB 110 GB
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Disk 1 is my SSD. Partition 1 on it is the EFI System Partition and I suspect that is what you are missing. The Paragon program I showed handles this and recreated it during the cloning process. Many Back-up programs can't handle uEFI/GPT drives and do not create this partition. My back-up program did not and that is why I had to buy the Paragon program. So do but usually NOT the free versions or they are too old and do not support uEFI/GPT.
It is possible that if you do a CLEAN install to the SSD and THEN clone over the C: drive it might just fix the problem? That is do a NEW install using the install media to the SSD, make sure it boots, and then clone the C: partition over.
Yeah there are some small minor partitions on the main C: drive.
Why would having a clean install on the ssd then cloning the C: work? Wouldn't cloning the C: wipe it?
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IrvSp
September 26, 2014 6:44:36 AM
Accolades said:
IrvSp said:
Accolades said:
IrvSp said:
I'm thinking you only basically copied over the C: partition. Booting with Secure Boot uses others on the Primary drive. Google "cloning hard drive to SSD in laptop with secure boot" and you'll find many pages to look at.
You didn't detail how you cloned either? Most laptops will not accept 2 disks, so I assume you used one external? That info might help. Backup S/W is not the same as cloning a boot partition. That will only 'restore' the C: partition, not the boot record or MBR of any GPT data that is needed for boot.
Personally, I used (on a desktop) Paragon's Migrate OS to SSD (http://www.paragon-software.com/technologies/components...) and it did the whole job for me. Even set up the BIOS to boot from the SSD. I also left the original hard drive in, but it seems the other partitions from the old primary drive were copied over to the SSD. That works out well for me as I can always boot the OLD C: if need be.
I put in a m.2 ssd and yes i copied the entire C: partition and only that over to the ssd.
But when i removed the entire HDD it was stuck in some loop. And i'm not sure how to disable secure boot. Not sure if i can at all. Laptop in question is Lenovo's y410p
The has to be OTHER partitions that are read during boot on the boot drive. I ran PARTDISK and checked my boot drive:
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DISKPART> list disk
Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
-------- ------------- ------- ------- --- ---
Disk 0 Online 931 GB 2048 KB *
* Disk 1 Online 111 GB 1024 KB *
Disk 2 Online 931 GB 0 B
Disk 3 No Media 0 B 0 B
Disk 4 No Media 0 B 0 B
Disk 5 No Media 0 B 0 B
Disk 6 No Media 0 B 0 B
DISKPART> list part
Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 System 500 MB 1024 KB
Partition 2 Primary 110 GB 502 MB
Partition 3 Recovery 898 MB 110 GB
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Disk 1 is my SSD. Partition 1 on it is the EFI System Partition and I suspect that is what you are missing. The Paragon program I showed handles this and recreated it during the cloning process. Many Back-up programs can't handle uEFI/GPT drives and do not create this partition. My back-up program did not and that is why I had to buy the Paragon program. So do but usually NOT the free versions or they are too old and do not support uEFI/GPT.
It is possible that if you do a CLEAN install to the SSD and THEN clone over the C: drive it might just fix the problem? That is do a NEW install using the install media to the SSD, make sure it boots, and then clone the C: partition over.
Yeah there are some small minor partitions on the main C: drive.
Why would having a clean install on the ssd then cloning the C: work? Wouldn't cloning the C: wipe it?
Yes, the C: partition would be wiped out and replaced with your OLD C:, but the other uEFI partition (does NOT have a drive letter) would remain. That is the one that holds the boot data and what I think is missing on your SSD. Older non-GPT drives had an MBR (Master Boot Record) that was loaded by the BIOS and then loaded the OS. The uEFI partition serves the same purpose and with it missing you can not boot.
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IrvSp
September 26, 2014 6:52:59 AM
Accolades said:
Yeah there are some small minor partitions on the main C: drive.
Maybe I misunderstood. Which C: drive are you talking about? You have the original that is a hard drive and that should have a similar structure like I showed in my post. A 500MB uEFI partition without a drive letter assigned, a recovery partition with no drive letter and probably a Lenova restore partition that might have a drive letter assigned and possibly another one for diagnostics.
If you used a back-up program it might not create anything but a C: partition on the SSD.
Do you have BOTH the hard drive and SSD connected on the laptop? If not, then just how did you create the SSD?
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Accolades
September 26, 2014 8:29:28 AM
IrvSp said:
Accolades said:
Yeah there are some small minor partitions on the main C: drive.
Maybe I misunderstood. Which C: drive are you talking about? You have the original that is a hard drive and that should have a similar structure like I showed in my post. A 500MB uEFI partition without a drive letter assigned, a recovery partition with no drive letter and probably a Lenova restore partition that might have a drive letter assigned and possibly another one for diagnostics.
If you used a back-up program it might not create anything but a C: partition on the SSD.
Do you have BOTH the hard drive and SSD connected on the laptop? If not, then just how did you create the SSD?
Yes they're both connected to the laptop. The ssd isn't a 7mm one, its a m.2 one (like msata, its a small form factor).
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sirstinky
September 26, 2014 9:49:14 AM
I would venture to say that the boot file is somehow missing, or didn't get copied over in the clone (as IrvSP said, the U/EFI partition that contains the boot files). Not sure how it happened, but I have experienced this imaging windows 7 machines. The proper partitions weren't imaged, so there was no boot when I restored the image. It wasn't until I re imaged the machine with the correct partitions. I think it was D, there were different partitions up to E: which didn't have the boot files. I confirm what IrvSP is saying. They were special additional partitions for diagnostics and drivers (it was a dell PC), that I would get boot. I am thinking it has to be related to Lenovo's configuration for the recovery partition, or the cloning software you used. That's why it's always better to use highly-rated programs that work. You may have to buy them. Acronis makes the best imaging/cloning programs out there. They have a free trial, use it and keep it for 14 or whatever days and let it expire. I've used it extensively to image/clone servers with no trouble. It's worth the weight in gold to get consistent clones and images. It will copy everything, recovery partition, your apps, programs, etc. and you'll be good to go.
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September 26, 2014 10:23:04 AM
sirstinky said:
I would venture to say that the boot file is somehow missing, or didn't get copied over in the clone (as IrvSP said, the U/EFI partition that contains the boot files). Not sure how it happened, but I have experienced this imaging windows 7 machines. The proper partitions weren't imaged, so there was no boot when I restored the image. It wasn't until I re imaged the machine with the correct partitions. I think it was D, there were different partitions up to E: which didn't have the boot files. I confirm what IrvSP is saying. They were special additional partitions for diagnostics and drivers (it was a dell PC), that I would get boot. I am thinking it has to be related to Lenovo's configuration for the recovery partition, or the cloning software you used. That's why it's always better to use highly-rated programs that work. You may have to buy them. Acronis makes the best imaging/cloning programs out there. They have a free trial, use it and keep it for 14 or whatever days and let it expire. I've used it extensively to image/clone servers with no trouble. It's worth the weight in gold to get consistent clones and images. It will copy everything, recovery partition, your apps, programs, etc. and you'll be good to go.Alright ill try recloning, do you have a link to Acronis download?
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sirstinky
September 26, 2014 11:53:19 AM
Accolades said:
sirstinky said:
I would venture to say that the boot file is somehow missing, or didn't get copied over in the clone (as IrvSP said, the U/EFI partition that contains the boot files). Not sure how it happened, but I have experienced this imaging windows 7 machines. The proper partitions weren't imaged, so there was no boot when I restored the image. It wasn't until I re imaged the machine with the correct partitions. I think it was D, there were different partitions up to E: which didn't have the boot files. I confirm what IrvSP is saying. They were special additional partitions for diagnostics and drivers (it was a dell PC), that I would get boot. I am thinking it has to be related to Lenovo's configuration for the recovery partition, or the cloning software you used. That's why it's always better to use highly-rated programs that work. You may have to buy them. Acronis makes the best imaging/cloning programs out there. They have a free trial, use it and keep it for 14 or whatever days and let it expire. I've used it extensively to image/clone servers with no trouble. It's worth the weight in gold to get consistent clones and images. It will copy everything, recovery partition, your apps, programs, etc. and you'll be good to go.Alright ill try recloning, do you have a link to Acronis download?
Here's the link http://www.acronis.com/en-us/personal/pc-backup/
There's a free trial for it. This is what I used (the older version). You can image the original hard disk to the external drive and install it into your pc and it should be good to go. Make sure you image the original hard drive, not the ssd with the missing partition.
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September 26, 2014 2:00:58 PM
sirstinky said:
Accolades said:
sirstinky said:
I would venture to say that the boot file is somehow missing, or didn't get copied over in the clone (as IrvSP said, the U/EFI partition that contains the boot files). Not sure how it happened, but I have experienced this imaging windows 7 machines. The proper partitions weren't imaged, so there was no boot when I restored the image. It wasn't until I re imaged the machine with the correct partitions. I think it was D, there were different partitions up to E: which didn't have the boot files. I confirm what IrvSP is saying. They were special additional partitions for diagnostics and drivers (it was a dell PC), that I would get boot. I am thinking it has to be related to Lenovo's configuration for the recovery partition, or the cloning software you used. That's why it's always better to use highly-rated programs that work. You may have to buy them. Acronis makes the best imaging/cloning programs out there. They have a free trial, use it and keep it for 14 or whatever days and let it expire. I've used it extensively to image/clone servers with no trouble. It's worth the weight in gold to get consistent clones and images. It will copy everything, recovery partition, your apps, programs, etc. and you'll be good to go.Alright ill try recloning, do you have a link to Acronis download?
Here's the link http://www.acronis.com/en-us/personal/pc-backup/
There's a free trial for it. This is what I used (the older version). You can image the original hard disk to the external drive and install it into your pc and it should be good to go. Make sure you image the original hard drive, not the ssd with the missing partition.
alright thanks, will try this out. hopefully it works.
oh and you mean image the original HDD to the SSD not external
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September 26, 2014 3:30:31 PM
sirstinky said:
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sirstinky said:
I would venture to say that the boot file is somehow missing, or didn't get copied over in the clone (as IrvSP said, the U/EFI partition that contains the boot files). Not sure how it happened, but I have experienced this imaging windows 7 machines. The proper partitions weren't imaged, so there was no boot when I restored the image. It wasn't until I re imaged the machine with the correct partitions. I think it was D, there were different partitions up to E: which didn't have the boot files. I confirm what IrvSP is saying. They were special additional partitions for diagnostics and drivers (it was a dell PC), that I would get boot. I am thinking it has to be related to Lenovo's configuration for the recovery partition, or the cloning software you used. That's why it's always better to use highly-rated programs that work. You may have to buy them. Acronis makes the best imaging/cloning programs out there. They have a free trial, use it and keep it for 14 or whatever days and let it expire. I've used it extensively to image/clone servers with no trouble. It's worth the weight in gold to get consistent clones and images. It will copy everything, recovery partition, your apps, programs, etc. and you'll be good to go.Alright ill try recloning, do you have a link to Acronis download?
Here's the link http://www.acronis.com/en-us/personal/pc-backup/
There's a free trial for it. This is what I used (the older version). You can image the original hard disk to the external drive and install it into your pc and it should be good to go. Make sure you image the original hard drive, not the ssd with the missing partition.
Ok and after I use aconis to clone it. what do i do? I want to double check so I don't mess things up.
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September 26, 2014 3:30:31 PM
sirstinky said:
Accolades said:
sirstinky said:
I would venture to say that the boot file is somehow missing, or didn't get copied over in the clone (as IrvSP said, the U/EFI partition that contains the boot files). Not sure how it happened, but I have experienced this imaging windows 7 machines. The proper partitions weren't imaged, so there was no boot when I restored the image. It wasn't until I re imaged the machine with the correct partitions. I think it was D, there were different partitions up to E: which didn't have the boot files. I confirm what IrvSP is saying. They were special additional partitions for diagnostics and drivers (it was a dell PC), that I would get boot. I am thinking it has to be related to Lenovo's configuration for the recovery partition, or the cloning software you used. That's why it's always better to use highly-rated programs that work. You may have to buy them. Acronis makes the best imaging/cloning programs out there. They have a free trial, use it and keep it for 14 or whatever days and let it expire. I've used it extensively to image/clone servers with no trouble. It's worth the weight in gold to get consistent clones and images. It will copy everything, recovery partition, your apps, programs, etc. and you'll be good to go.Alright ill try recloning, do you have a link to Acronis download?
Here's the link http://www.acronis.com/en-us/personal/pc-backup/
There's a free trial for it. This is what I used (the older version). You can image the original hard disk to the external drive and install it into your pc and it should be good to go. Make sure you image the original hard drive, not the ssd with the missing partition.
Ok and after I use aconis to clone it. what do i do? I want to double check so I don't mess things up.
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September 26, 2014 5:50:39 PM
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September 26, 2014 6:24:43 PM
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September 26, 2014 8:48:54 PM
For reference, here is my entire UEFI/BIOS https://www.dropbox.com/sc/7wthj7rs9189suy/AADwy28zCWZT...
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September 27, 2014 12:15:16 AM
sirstinky
September 27, 2014 2:28:21 PM
Accolades said:
sirstinky said:
Accolades said:
sirstinky said:
I would venture to say that the boot file is somehow missing, or didn't get copied over in the clone (as IrvSP said, the U/EFI partition that contains the boot files). Not sure how it happened, but I have experienced this imaging windows 7 machines. The proper partitions weren't imaged, so there was no boot when I restored the image. It wasn't until I re imaged the machine with the correct partitions. I think it was D, there were different partitions up to E: which didn't have the boot files. I confirm what IrvSP is saying. They were special additional partitions for diagnostics and drivers (it was a dell PC), that I would get boot. I am thinking it has to be related to Lenovo's configuration for the recovery partition, or the cloning software you used. That's why it's always better to use highly-rated programs that work. You may have to buy them. Acronis makes the best imaging/cloning programs out there. They have a free trial, use it and keep it for 14 or whatever days and let it expire. I've used it extensively to image/clone servers with no trouble. It's worth the weight in gold to get consistent clones and images. It will copy everything, recovery partition, your apps, programs, etc. and you'll be good to go.Alright ill try recloning, do you have a link to Acronis download?
Here's the link http://www.acronis.com/en-us/personal/pc-backup/
There's a free trial for it. This is what I used (the older version). You can image the original hard disk to the external drive and install it into your pc and it should be good to go. Make sure you image the original hard drive, not the ssd with the missing partition.
alright thanks, will try this out. hopefully it works.
oh and you mean image the original HDD to the SSD not external
Yes, image the original HDD to the SSD in your external drive. Make sure you get everything. Acronis usually does it for you, but you might have additional volumes to include in the image. There will be at minimum 1 to 2 partitions that need to be done (one is the recovery, a smaller volume) and the main volume (the biggest one) with the Windows system files, AKA. the C: drive. I think it has a clone function too.
Let us know how it works out.
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September 27, 2014 5:35:05 PM
I discovered many 'free' cloning programs did NOT cover GPT drives or uEFI. I have Norton's Symantec System Recovery as my back up program. Prior to this I used Norton Ghost. On a 3 year old Dell I put an SSD in and it was a BEAR to get it working after trying to do a restore to the SSD and have it bootable. No uEFI or GPT drive then. Had to do it few times and change a few settings to make it work right. This time on a new GPT/uEFI computer I didn't want to mess with it an bought ($20 USD) the Paragon program. Worked like a charm first time. Maybe your time is free, but $20 would save you some headaches. Just say'in.
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September 27, 2014 8:36:01 PM
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October 4, 2014 3:46:10 PM
Found this;
Directions (Lenovo Y510P (Win 8.1), using Acronis):
1) Power down laptop. Open laptop case. Install new MyDigitalSSD in the NGFF M.2 slot.
2) Power-on Windows. Use Disk Management tool to format new MyDigitalSSD in "GPT format"
3) Download & install Acronis True Image. Use it to create a bootable USB flash-drive. Remove USB flash-drive. Turn off computer.
4) Start system BIOS. Change boot schema from "UEFI" to "Legacy." Ensure that booting from USB is enabled. If you don't find the option for booting from USB in the menu, restart the computer, enter BIOS again, and look for the setting--there are some options that only reappear after you've restarted the BIOS! Once booting to USB is enabled, turn off the system.
5) Remove HHD from laptop, and attach it to the external adapter. I used an older Sabrent USB 2.0 to IDE/SATA Adapter. DO NOT ATTACH HDD TO LAPTOP QUITE YET.
6) Attach bootable USB stick, and reboot the system. The Arconis OS/Rescue system should start.
7) Now attach the HHD via the USB to SATA Adapter
8) Run the Clone utility, choosing the HHD as the "source" drive and the new MyDigitalSSD as the "Target" drive.
9) After the clone procedure is complete, turn off computer and remove bootable USB flash drive as well as USB connecting the old HDD.
10) Restart the system. At this point, it should boot directly from the new MyDigitalSSD...and it should boot fairly quickly.
11) Once you confirm that the SSD is booting correctly, and WIN 8.1 is up and running, you can use Acronis to format the old HDD (The Win 8.1 Disk Management Tool wouldn't let me delete the UEFI/GPT partitions on the HDD) via the external connection. Then use Disk Management to reformat the drive (NFTS).
12) Turn off the computer. Re-install the HDD. Restart the system to make sure everything is running as intended (booting from SSD, HDD shows up).
13) Enter into BIOS and re-enable all of the UEFI settings (for security). Recheck the boot again. If all runs well, power down again.
14) Reassemble laptop
Thanks everyone. Ordered a USB-Sata and will let you guys know how it goes
Directions (Lenovo Y510P (Win 8.1), using Acronis):
1) Power down laptop. Open laptop case. Install new MyDigitalSSD in the NGFF M.2 slot.
2) Power-on Windows. Use Disk Management tool to format new MyDigitalSSD in "GPT format"
3) Download & install Acronis True Image. Use it to create a bootable USB flash-drive. Remove USB flash-drive. Turn off computer.
4) Start system BIOS. Change boot schema from "UEFI" to "Legacy." Ensure that booting from USB is enabled. If you don't find the option for booting from USB in the menu, restart the computer, enter BIOS again, and look for the setting--there are some options that only reappear after you've restarted the BIOS! Once booting to USB is enabled, turn off the system.
5) Remove HHD from laptop, and attach it to the external adapter. I used an older Sabrent USB 2.0 to IDE/SATA Adapter. DO NOT ATTACH HDD TO LAPTOP QUITE YET.
6) Attach bootable USB stick, and reboot the system. The Arconis OS/Rescue system should start.
7) Now attach the HHD via the USB to SATA Adapter
8) Run the Clone utility, choosing the HHD as the "source" drive and the new MyDigitalSSD as the "Target" drive.
9) After the clone procedure is complete, turn off computer and remove bootable USB flash drive as well as USB connecting the old HDD.
10) Restart the system. At this point, it should boot directly from the new MyDigitalSSD...and it should boot fairly quickly.
11) Once you confirm that the SSD is booting correctly, and WIN 8.1 is up and running, you can use Acronis to format the old HDD (The Win 8.1 Disk Management Tool wouldn't let me delete the UEFI/GPT partitions on the HDD) via the external connection. Then use Disk Management to reformat the drive (NFTS).
12) Turn off the computer. Re-install the HDD. Restart the system to make sure everything is running as intended (booting from SSD, HDD shows up).
13) Enter into BIOS and re-enable all of the UEFI settings (for security). Recheck the boot again. If all runs well, power down again.
14) Reassemble laptop
Thanks everyone. Ordered a USB-Sata and will let you guys know how it goes
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