Looking for advice on gaming rig (overkill or not?)

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Hello, I am trying to come up with a gaming rig that would not be overkill but also cover my gaming needs for the near future.

This is what I came up for now (newb alert!):

MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G
MSI Z97 GAMING 7
i7 4790
CORSAIR 16GB (2x8GB) Vengeance Pro DDR3 1866MHz CL9
Samsung 250GB 840 EVO
Seagate 3.5" 1TB Barracuda Sata 3.0 64MB Cache 7200Rpm
COOL MASTER HYPER 212EVO
ASUS 21.5" VX229H
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 Advance
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 (Do I even need 750W for such a system?)

So is this overkill and if so, how should I cut it down a bit for an overall better price/performance system (generally speaking)?

Thanks for answers in advance~






 
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Ht does work in games but most aren't going to use 8 threads that a quad core w/ ht would have. A 400w would not be recommended. It wouldn't have 2x 6 pin anyways. Just get a 500w. Oc is not really risky, and they made it really easy to. You can just leave everything on auto, raise your multi and stress test watching temps. Nothing to it. But if you still don't want to, you could save some money with a cheaper mobo and i5 or a 1230v3 or 1231v3.
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i5 is better in games if you overclock, hyperthreading dont work in games.
samsung 840\840evo has read speed problems at 4 week old files and its expensive, get a crucial mx100 instead or something. you only need 400w psu, but get a good one, like coolermaster v series.
 
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Thanks for answers so far. My biggest uncertainties are (considering that I am planning to get a rig that would be totally fine for now and near future);
Is an SSD luxury for an ordinary gamer like me?
Is 8 gb ram more than enough or should I get 16 gb to be safe?
Should I just get an i7 to be futureproof for quite some time or settle with an i5?

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400W? Really? :ouch: Also I will not overclock, that sounds like too risky for an amateur. I have also heard about the samsung's problem with 840 evo units but they should be able to solve the issue with a firmware update or something, right? I may not be able to find crucial where I live, but there are lots of corsair and sandisk options if they are any good (kingston too but I am not hearing good things about them).
 
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Ht does work in games but most aren't going to use 8 threads that a quad core w/ ht would have. A 400w would not be recommended. It wouldn't have 2x 6 pin anyways. Just get a 500w. Oc is not really risky, and they made it really easy to. You can just leave everything on auto, raise your multi and stress test watching temps. Nothing to it. But if you still don't want to, you could save some money with a cheaper mobo and i5 or a 1230v3 or 1231v3.
 
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I personally consider SSD more of a luxury just because of the price to capacity ratio

100s of dollars for 500gb SSD compared to ~60 dollars for a regular 1000gb hard drive

and if you are like me you will fill up 500 gb in no time
 
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Even if it is easier now with the mobo's own software, doesn't it lower the stability of the system over time due to extra heat? Or is it negligible? Btw, I don't know what you mean by "raise your multi" and don't know how to do a stress test properly (see why I am afraid to do overclocking? :p). Thanks for all the info though.

Edit: This setup looks good enough? Ones marked with (*) are different then OP setup. I guess I can drop SSD to save even more but I want to try on out.

*i5 4690
*MSI Z97 PC MATE
*CORSAIR 8GB (2x4GB) Vengeance Pro DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (or 1866MHz, little price difference but does it make a noticable difference in performance?)
*Corsair 128GB Force GS SDD
MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G
Seagate 3.5" 1TB Barracuda Sata 3.0 64MB Cache 7200Rpm
COOL MASTER HYPER 212EVO
ASUS 21.5" VX229H
 
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Stability should not be affected. The multi is simply a number you change in bios, for this cpu 40= 4.0ghz. Stress test you just download and run prime95 overnight or a couple hours. If it gives no errors or crashes then you're done.

For a system at this budget, a ssd is always included. The ram speed won't really make a difference.
 
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So I should just get an i5 4690k instead of 4690. The price difference isn't that anyway but what if it gives an error? Do I have to tweak it manually after that or just give up? Btw, I have noticed that OCZ VS series are in tier 2 on psu tier list here: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html

I can grab one of OCZ VS 550, 650 and 750 models. You said earlier that 500w should be fine. Would that one still be enough in case I oc i5 4690k or even both i5 4690k and gtx 970? Maybe I should grab 650 to be safe.
 
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Yeah I mean ZS sorry. Thanks for all the info.

 
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