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September 25, 2014 9:55:27 AM

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/js9m23
How can I decrease the price but maintain performance? Pc part picker would be most appreciated!! Thanks

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September 25, 2014 9:58:19 AM

You could go with a cheaper case and a cheaper mobo.
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September 25, 2014 10:10:28 AM

If you dont want to overclock you can decrease the cpu to the non K version. Other then that there is really no place you can skimp without decreasing performace (at least without taking a huge drop in quality).
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September 25, 2014 10:16:05 AM

well the only thing that does not affect performance directly is the case
so you can cut down on that
also mobo but that depends upon your requirements and whether you can compromise on that or not
and since you havent mentioned a cpu cooler
i would presume you dont intend to overclock
which means that the K version is useless for you
you could go for a regular i5 4670

and most importantly (but this is circumstantial)
if youre a student...you could get your windows at a considerably lower price
in my country they sell them to students at 1/3rd the market price
and in some countries microsoft also gives away windows for free (USA is definitely one of them)
so please check the student offers available for your country
but that ofcourse is possible only if youre a student
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September 25, 2014 10:18:46 AM

Good point about student versions of windows.

You can get a NZXT Source 210 case or Corsair 200r or Rosewill challenger. Cutting the case down cheaper then that can actually hurt performance due to poor airlfow (or the ability for your 280x and other parts to fit)
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September 25, 2014 10:32:15 AM

How is this looking? I have taken bits from your suggestions and got it under 700, would this work? I'm new to pcs by the way.
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September 25, 2014 10:37:14 AM

FYI the AMD 8320 cpu is a pretty good cpu, about the best bang for the buck you can find. It is not on the same performance level as the i5 though.

The 8320 will be maxed out with a 280x gpu, possible even bottleneck it slightly on cpu intensive games.

One other note: since you are going to be pushing this CPU with the 280x card then I would highly urge you to get a better cpu cooler like they cooler master hyper 212 evo (the stock cooler is pretty damn loud too).
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September 25, 2014 10:44:07 AM

That new build looks good.

Only issue is the USB wifi adapter.
Best to worst:
1) Ethernet from router
2) Powerline adapter (500-600mbps model)
3) PCI-E wifi adapter
4) USB wifi adapter

USB adapters have limited power due to usb bus and are small and thus have small antennas. They are the worst form of device out there for home connection. It would be a shame to have this nice PC and cripple your game play with the slow high latency wifi conection.
If you can not connect to router via ethernet cable the next best thing is a powerline adapter that sends etherent data over your powerlines; you plug on end into an outlet near your router (outlet NOT a surge protector) and hook ethernet cable to adapter form router, and then plug the oter adapter into an outlet near your pc and connect ethernet from adapter to pc.
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September 25, 2014 10:46:28 AM



yes this is better
without compromise with performance
i personally prefer intel over amd
and also for some reason nvidia over amd
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September 25, 2014 10:54:51 AM


In the over-whelming majority of games, I highly suspect the FX-8320 with a GTX 970 will curb-stomp an Intel CPU with an R9 280X. Even in games that are 'bottle-necked' you will be getting 25% more frames :lol: 

Actually, any system you purchase will be seriously outdated in a year with DDR4 and 20nm GPUs just around the corner. Depending upon your current system (and needs), riding things out until next Summer is not a bad idea (if you can stand it)

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September 26, 2014 10:06:53 AM

Wisecracker said:

In the over-whelming majority of games, I highly suspect the FX-8320 with a GTX 970 will curb-stomp an Intel CPU with an R9 280X. Even in games that are 'bottle-necked' you will be getting 25% more frames :lol: 

Actually, any system you purchase will be seriously outdated in a year with DDR4 and 20nm GPUs just around the corner. Depending upon your current system (and needs), riding things out until next Summer is not a bad idea (if you can stand it)



everything in the technology world gets outdated very soon
if you keep waiting for newer tech
you can never get things done
no doubting the intel cpus do better at gaming than the amds
youve admitted it too
and 25% is a huge improvement

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September 26, 2014 10:21:28 AM

25% at over 100FPS isn't noticeable eally anyways.

This would be better, less heat, less power, more performance, better price:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£154.39 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£40.01 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£68.65 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.50 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£198.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Neos Black ATX Mid Tower Case (£29.75 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.09 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£82.22 @ Amazon UK)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN3200 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter (£12.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £659.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-26 18:21 BST+0100
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September 26, 2014 11:08:36 AM

James Mason said:
25% at over 100FPS isn't noticeable eally anyways.

This would be better, less heat, less power, more performance, better price:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£154.39 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£40.01 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£68.65 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.50 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£198.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Neos Black ATX Mid Tower Case (£29.75 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.09 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£82.22 @ Amazon UK)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN3200 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter (£12.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £659.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-26 18:21 BST+0100


Minmum recommended PSU for a GTX 770 is 600watts. You could maybee get away with 550watts from a high high quality PSU that is going to have very little capacitor aging, but not 450w.
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September 26, 2014 11:16:28 AM

boosted1g said:

Minmum recommended PSU for a GTX 770 is 600watts. You could maybee get away with 550watts from a high high quality PSU that is going to have very little capacitor aging, but not 450w.


Not exactly.

I power a 770 with only 550ws, but I've got a lot more going on in my case.

The 600w recommendation exists because of AMD cpus being power hogs.

But i'll grant i was kinda pushing it close, his system only needs 413Ws, I gave him 450. So a 500 should do:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£154.39 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£40.01 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£68.65 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.50 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£198.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Neos Black ATX Mid Tower Case (£29.75 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£29.96 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£82.22 @ Amazon UK)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN3200 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter (£12.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £654.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-26 19:15 BST+0100
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September 26, 2014 12:50:34 PM

Quote:
everything in the technology world gets outdated very soon
if you keep waiting for newer tech
you can never get things done ...


That's the more ridiculous excuse in the world :lol: 
When did we transition from DDR2 to DDR3, Mr. Wizard ? 7 years ago ??

Not only are we on the cusp of a sea-change from DDR3 to DDR4, the underlying premise of memory technology will change interactions with all other components of computer systems.

I'll grant you that the initial transition will be much like DDR2-->DDR3 with marginal utility BUT that will quickly be followed by super-fast sticks that more than double the bandwidth of RAMs serially connected to individual components.

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September 26, 2014 4:29:06 PM

Wisecracker said:
Quote:
everything in the technology world gets outdated very soon
if you keep waiting for newer tech
you can never get things done ...


That's the more ridiculous excuse in the world :lol: 
When did we transition from DDR2 to DDR3, Mr. Wizard ? 7 years ago ??

Not only are we on the cusp of a sea-change from DDR3 to DDR4, the underlying premise of memory technology will change interactions with all other components of computer systems.

I'll grant you that the initial transition will be much like DDR2-->DDR3 with marginal utility BUT that will quickly be followed by super-fast sticks that more than double the bandwidth of RAMs serially connected to individual components.



There are people who have been gaming just fine, up until about now, with DDR2 still.
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