Wondering if my rig is good for gaming and if i can get a new motherboard?

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CoolCurt912

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Hello. I have an hp h8 1559 and I was wondering if i can get a new motherboard that can support 2 video cards so i can crossfire the vapor x 5770 i just upgraded to in this computer. If there is a motherboard i can get let me know please. Also i want to know if this rig is good for gaming... Google the model number and you'll find it easily. Also is this card able to crossfire?



 
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Sapphire GPU? You can easily do that yourself. Measure the space in the case and then Google sapphire r9 270. There are only like 2 models to chose form anyway.

For the PSU, stick with XFX, Antec, Seasonic.
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Is this the motherboard you are currently using, right?

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03117539&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en#N87

Seems like your motherboard form factor size is a micro ATX which is a good sign, at least it means that the computer case isn't using any special form factor limited to that manufacturer.

It's probably best to get another micro ATX board. The 5770 card should be able to crossfire.

The only other issue is that you will have to upgrade the PSU. The PSU that comes in your computer appears to be a 460W OEM PSU, correct?

You should probably go for a 500-550W good quality brand PSU such as from EVGA, XFX, Seasonic, or even Corsair possibly.

I ran into an issue since there is almost really no motherboard that is mATX and is an AMD motherboard for FX processors (AM3+) that has two PCIe x16 lanes. I'm not sure if you can fit a full size ATX board in your desktop though but if you can take pictures of the inside of your computer, that would be very helpful.

You're probably better off getting a single powerful GPU.
 
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Getting a new Motherboard is a bit like starting a whole new PC build. This is because the Motherboard is the platform on which all other components interface.

Your current rig has the following major bottlenecks:

Your PSU is only 430w. To power two HD 5770s you'll need at least a 550w PSU. I'd recommend closer to a 650w PSU since you've got a power-hungry CPU in there.

Your current Motherboard only has 1 PCI-E x16 2.0 slot. So obviously, as you know, you can't Crossfire.

If you're considering a new Motherboard, it must conform to the Socket Standard AM3+ (Literally AM3b).

Something like the Asus Sabertooth 990FX will provide you with 3 PCI-E x16 2.0 slots. It can run two slots simultaneously at x16 speed, or all three slots simultaneously at x16, x8 and x8. It isn't exactly cheap however.

Alternatively: Have you considered just upgrading your PSU and instead purchasing a more powerful single-GPU option?

This would save you buying a whole new Motherboard and help avoid some of the incompatibilities with certain software inherent with SLI / Crossfire configurations.

The Radeon R9 series is worth looking at as single-GPU solutions. Also, the GeForce 700 series are set for a price drop in the coming weeks / months as the 900 series gains market foothold.
 
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I don't know if the Asus Sabertooth 990FX will be able to fit in there, will it?

Current motherboard in the desktop is mATX though it is possible that it could support a fully sized ATX board. But anyway, as thelps and I mentioned earlier, it's probably a good idea to go for a more powerful single GPU.
 
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Current Motherboard is 9.6" x 9.6". The ASUS Sabertooth 990FX is 12" x 9.6".

I can't locate case dimensions online, so CoolCurt912 would need to measure the Motherboard recess of his case himself.

But... as this thread agrees - you're better off with a single, more powerful GPU and a PSU upgrade. It's the most cost-effective, software-compatible option.
 
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You need a new case. That motherboard is an mATX board and there are ZERO AM3+ boards that can use dual GPUs, or even that aren't junk that are mATX.

Plus you will have to buy a new copy of windows and reinstall it.

Your best bet 10000% is just get a gtx750ti. It will be as powerful as CF5770's or better and it will run on a 300w PSU.
 
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Yes thats my motherboard and my psu is 460w. would a gtx 660 work in my motherboard?
 
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Can I get a gtx 750ti without upgrading anything else?
 
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My budget for a new gpu is $250... can you find a video card (amd radeon prefer) that is better then my 5770? I don't wanna spend $300 or $400. I also dont wanna upgrade anything else. Can you help?
 
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A GTX 750 Ti will probably be best, and the money you saved could go for a much more customizable and better computer down the road.

The GTX 750 Ti will do fine with 1080p gaming and will likely work with your PSU so you won't have to upgrade the PSU.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125502&cm_re=gtx_750_ti-_-14-125-502-_-Product
$140 AR

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500348&cm_re=gtx_750_ti-_-14-500-348-_-Product
$150 if you don't like the hassle of rebates but they are easy to do


http://www.ncix.com/detail/asus-geforce-gtx-750-ti-33-94339-1342.htm
$135 AR - I recommend this card because better overclock and ASUS is pretty good with their coolers



 
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Hello sorry i just like amd i won't get nvidia or intel sorry. May u recommend an amd video card instead?
 
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The Nvidia GTX 750 Ti has some nice power efficiency but if you prefer AMD, then the equivalent GPU of that would be a R7 260x or R7 265.

The only issue with these AMD cards even though they perform as well as the GTX 750 Ti and sometimes a bit better (the R7 265) is that it consumes nearly 2x as much power. Hopefully your PSU will be able to handle that. It should as long as your PSU isn't too bad of a quality and that you aren't overclocking your CPU or anything.

You might be able to get away with a R9 270 but I wouldn't 100% count on it.

SAPPHIRE DUAL-X R9 270
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202090&cm_re=R9_270-_-14-202-090-_-Product
Comes with 2 games (Alien Isolation & Star Citizen) @ $170 CAD

Cheapest R9 270 (Gigabyte)
http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-radeon-r9-270-oc-5b-92027-1342.htm
$160 CAD AR + Never Settle Forever Gold Game bundle


R7 265 (Club 3D)
http://www.ncix.com/detail/club-3d-radeon-r7-265-83-94996-1342.htm
$150 CAD + Never Settle Forever Silver Bundle


R7 260X (Gigabyte)
http://www.ncix.com/detail/gigabyte-radeon-hd-r7-260x-ae-90925.htm
$120 CAD AR + Never Settle Forever Silver Bundle

Other R7 260X cards (XFX appears to be the cheapest but I recommend looking for a card with decent coolers)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=-1&IsNodeId=1&Description=r7%20260x&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
 
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Ok thanks, But if it doesn't work is it just the psu i have to upgrade? Are you pretty sure it'll fit it in my case and or motherboard? I also really like sapphire and 3d club so ill be getting either of those.
 
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whats the differance? i think so check out on hp's website my model number is h8-1559
 
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What psu do you recommend?
 
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He could also use one of those 4 pin molex to Pcie 6 pin adapters as well though there may be power issues if you do that. Though I'm sure it's much better to just buy a new PSU and since you have a big enough budget to do that, I recommend you do that.

a few years ago, I used a molex to Pcie adapter before.
I did it with my Nvidia 8800 GTS with a 300W PSU (HP OEM desktop) before and had no issues but if you do decide to do it, just know the risks you will be taking and if its worth it.

 
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