Bought new case swapped out parts. Computer wont boot!!!

James Layne

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I just recently bought a Corsair Vengeance C70 case because I hated my last case. As of last night swapped out all of the parts and now the computer wont boot in the new case. Fans will turn on for 1 second and shut off for a 1 second then computer will repeat that process until I kill the PSU switch. Any one have any ideas what might be causing this?

The new case is kinda weird with the standoffs. There are six standoffs all welded to the case. For some reason the middle standoff is a peg/nub which is unremovable. My MSI gaming mobo has a place to put a stand off screw right where the middle peg is. Could this be shorting the board for some reason?? I didn't think all standoffs were necessary.

Also my ATX cord is hitting the side of the motherboard because the cord wasnt long enough. Can this be in issue?

Additional info: In the process of moving all components cpu, cpu cooler, and ram all remained in tact to the mobo.
 
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The 4pin or 8pin cpu harness back into the motherboard is a good start. Strip down to the bare components to see if you get a basic post.

POST troubleshooting steps

The Power On Self Test (POST) is a test a computer takes each time the computer is turned on to make sure all the hardware is properly working before trying to load the operating system. If the computer does not pass POST it will not boot. See our POST definition for further information on this term and related links.

Tip: Make sure the computer turns on, if nothing happens (no lights, no sound, no fans, etc.) the computer has a power related issue.

Caution: Some of the steps below recommend removing physical parts within the computer. While in the computer it is...
Fisrt off, did you plug the 4pin or 8pin cpu harness back into the motherboard, this is the #1 forgoten thing.

If the peg is coming up through the standoff hole in the board then there is no issue.
If the board has a standoff hole, you should have a standoff there and a screw or a peg.
The OEM does not just spend the extra machining cost to put a standoff whole into the pcb for no reason.

If it is not the standoff and not the 4pin/8pin cpu connection then double check all cable connections.
 

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This is always a good thread to review when looking into "my computer won't boot" issues... http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-steps-posting-post-boot-video-problems

As mentioned above, the med peg is not an issue and should be a concern. You should have all the standoff's in place as they prevent your system for shorting out and not booting.

I wouldn't be too concern with the ATX cord hitting the motherboard. Some people run the cord along the motherboard if it isn't long enough to go behind. I would be more concerned with is the cord properly plugged in all the way, 4-pin vs 8-pin extra. You might want to look at an extension or try running on top of the motherboard to make sure you have a good fit with your ATX cord. If that works, pick yourself up an extension cord and move it back to behind the motherboard try.

Also, check that your CPU fan wire hasn't come loose either. The motherboard won't boot up if it doesn't detect a fan connected, since it thinks there is no heat sink. Double check that everything is seated properly and hooked up correctly won't hurt either even though you didn't touch them.
 

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The 4pin or 8pin cpu harness back into the motherboard is a good start. Strip down to the bare components to see if you get a basic post.

POST troubleshooting steps

The Power On Self Test (POST) is a test a computer takes each time the computer is turned on to make sure all the hardware is properly working before trying to load the operating system. If the computer does not pass POST it will not boot. See our POST definition for further information on this term and related links.

Tip: Make sure the computer turns on, if nothing happens (no lights, no sound, no fans, etc.) the computer has a power related issue.

Caution: Some of the steps below recommend removing physical parts within the computer. While in the computer it is highly recommend that you be aware of ElectroStatic Discharge (ESD) and its potential hazards.
Remove new hardware

If any new hardware has been recently added to the computer, remove that hardware to make sure it is not the cause of your issue. If after removing the new hardware your computer works it is likely the computer is either not compatible with the new hardware or a system setting needs to be changed to work with the new hardware device.

USBRemove any disks or USB devices

Remove any disks, CD's, DVD's that are in the computer and if any USB devices (iPods, drives, phones, etc) are connected disconnect all of them as well. Reboot the computer and see if anything changes.
Disconnect external devices

Remove everything from the back of the computer except the power cable. Turn on the computer and see if it beeps normally. If the computer has never beeped keep the monitor or display connected to see if any change occurs.

Identify beep code

If you are receiving a sequence of beeps see the beep code page for a listing of different beep codes and their explanation or your motherboard or computer documentation. These beep codes are meant to help identify what computer component is failing or bad. If your beep code is not listed, continue troubleshooting.
Check all fans

Make sure all fans are running in the computer. If a fan has failed (especially the heat sink fan for the CPU) your computer could be overheating or detecting the fan failure causing the computer not to boot.

Check all cables

Verify that all the cables are properly connected at that there are no loose cables by firmly pressing in each cable.
All disk drives should have a data cable and power cable connected to them. Your power supply should have at least one cable going to the motherboard. Many motherboards may also have additional cables connected to them to supply power to the fans.

Disconnect all expansion cards

If the above recommendations still have not resolved the irregular POST, disconnect the riser board (if applicable) and each of the expansion cards. If this resolves the issue or allows the computer to POST connect one card at a time until you determine what card is causing the issue.
Disconnect all drives

If you were unable to determine by the beep code what is failing or do not have a beep code disconnect the IDE, SATA, SCSI, or other data cables from the CD-ROM, hard drive, and floppy drive from the Motherboard.

If this resolves your irregular POST or generates error messages re-connect each device until you determine what device or cable is causing the issue. In some situations it can also be a loose cable connection that causes the issue.

Remove the RAM

If you continue to receive the same problem with all the above hardware removed, disconnect the RAM from the Motherboard and turn on the computer. If the computer has a different beep code or if your computer was not beeping and is now beeping turn off your computer and try the below suggestions. Making sure to turn off the computer each time you are adding and removing the memory and then turning the computer back on to see if the suggestion resolves the issue.

Re-insert the memory into the same slot.
If you have more than one stick of memory remove all but one stick of memory, try rotating through each stick.
Try one stick of memory in each slot.

If you are able to get the computer to boot with one or more of the sticks of memory it is likely you are dealing with some bad memory. Try to identify what stick of memory is bad and replace it.

If you are able to get memory to work in one slot but not another slot. You are motherboard is defective you can either workaround the issue by running the memory in a different slot or replace the motherboard.

Power cycle the computer

In some situations a computer may have power related issues often caused by either the power supply or the motherboard. To help determine if this is the cause of your issue try turning the computer on, off, and back on as fast as possible, making sure the computer power light goes on and off each time. In some situations you may be able to temporarily get the computer to boot.

This should only be used as a temporary workaround if you are able to get this to work. Often this is good for users who may have not done a backup and need to get the computer up one more time to copy files before starting to replace hardware.

Disconnect and reconnect the CPU

For users who are more comfortable working with the inside of their computer or who have built their computer one last recommendation before assuming hardware is bad is to reseat the CPU by removing it and putting it back into the computer.

Loose BIOS chip

If your motherboard has a BIOS chip, it can become loose over time due to heat expansion and cause the computer to give an irregular POST. Gently press down on the BIOS chip to make sure it has not become loose.

Bad motherboard, CPU, RAM, or power supply

If after doing all of the above recommendations you continue to have the same issue unfortunately it is likely that you have bad Motherboard, PSU, CPU, or RAM. The next step would be either to replace these components or have the computer serviced. If you plan on doing the repairs yourself or you are a repair shop it is suggested that you replace the Motherboard first, RAM, CPU, and then power supply in that order or try swappable parts from other computers.

Info was provided by http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000607.htm
 
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James Layne

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Thanks! Ill check out that thread link. I was actually wondering the same thing because the ATX cord was just barely long enough to make it behind past the board and "plugged in." When I get home from work I will give that a go. Also I kinda lied. One of my fan cords was too short so I did some rearranging and switched out CPU fan plug 1 or 2 (cant remember) with a 3 pin case fan. The other cpu fan is still plugged in so I didnt think it would affect anything but could very well be the issue.
 

James Layne

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So I just recently realized that I had put in the wrong standoff screws that came with the case. I then removed the others and put in the new ones. I powered her on and ureaka she came on and continually ran. I then shut her down and tried to connect my screen keyboard mouse etc and now I cant seem to get a signal from the keyboard or monitor though the graphics card or the integrated graphics. My mouse is lighting up but keyboard is not. All fans are running including the ones on the graphics card but no signal to the monitor or keyboard. Any ideas?? So far all ive tried is re-seating the ram and rechecking connections...

Im afraid Ill need a new mobo.
 

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1) Make sure your keyboard is connected to a USB 2.0 port. I've seen them not be recognized when connected to a USB 3.0 port.

2) Check your BIOS to see the GPU is recognized and that the internal GPU is disabled to help avoid conflicts.

After that, the original post provide a lot of useful tips to address your concerns. Specially look for error codes / beeps from your motherboard. It will help point to any potential issues.
 

James Layne

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1) The keyboard is connected to a PS/2 port and the mouse is connected to a USB 2.0. The motherboard isnt sending a signal to the PS/2 port at all.

2)I cant access or change settings in the bios if the PC isn't sending a signal to the monitor through the 280x or integrated graphics.

Are most motherboards equipped with a speaker on the board? I bought one from newegg just in case it didnt. If it does have a speaker on it my mobo is not making any noise/beeps.

My Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
 

James Layne

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Bought a speaker. No beep when ram was removed. Tried another PSU same issue. Finally bit the bullet and bought a new nearly identical motherboard. Found out I had a dead motherboard for anyone who is experiencing the same issues and viewing this thread. (I would highly recommend buying a grounding bracelet.) Thanks everyone for the help and troubleshooting tutorials.