thinking about getting an amd fx-8350, but should I wait?

Akhan1

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I'm in college, a junior to be exact, and sold my previous mobo/cpu/ram and a few old laptops that I had laying around and made roughly $400. I currently have a nvidia geforce 450gts, nice 750 or 850watt power supply, a cooler master evo hyper cpu cooler, a nice case, a 500gb hard drive, cd drive e.c.t.

I am really having a hard time debating whether or not to go with the i5 4670k haswell, or the fx-8350.

I don't game too much, cause I won't really have time to, but I do plan on gaming, like battlefield 4 and such.

With the amd, I feel like if I overclock it to 4.4 with the turbo going to 4.8 (I don't know how overclocking works with the turbo processors, coming from a old school q6600) I will get a much better deal for the money. The only thing I don't know if anything even uses the 8 cores. I mean it sounds nice, but i don't want to get it, and then when 8 core programs come out, I don't want it to be behind in the dust cause each core is not that quick.

The i5 is better at single cpu stuff from the jist of it that I learned, but would I even see a difference doing basic stuff. I'm a finance major, not a computer science major.

My main reason for building this rig, is to put in my room, and use it with a 40' hdtv via hdmi cable and can lay down in bed and watch my online lectures and such.

For my graphics card, I plan on getting another geforce 450gts on ebay for like $40, and just put it in sli. I think i'd be able to play games in a medium setting running both of those.

But another question is, I feel like if I buy this, a new AMD will come out, and this processor will be old school. Is it better to wait?
 
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It really depends on what you want to spend. The best performance per dollar would be found in doing the SLI of the GTS 450, and maybe upgrading your CPU 2 years to a Wolfdale Q8400/8300/8200, on eBay for about $40 also.

For a total of only $80, that would be a fair upgrade.

I'd avoid AMD CPUs completely. The aforementioned Q8400 (a five year old CPU) performs pretty close to the FX-4300. It wouldn't feel like much of an upgrade at all spending $120 on a good overclocking AM3+ motherboard, $180 on an FX-8350, and having to buy a new copy of Windows and all the prices entailed in a new build.

Unless you have extra cash laying around, upgrading your current build is a much more economical and sensible decision.

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logainofhades

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I would just sell your GTS 450, and get something like this. You would have better gaming peformance, and the cpu is still quite superior to your old Q6600. SLI GTS 450 would only put you at about a 260x, performance wise.

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First of all, if you wait for the next thing, there will always be the next thing and you will be 40 years old.

Sounds like you are not going to push your CPU at all.
With $400 you could get yourself an fx-8320 cpu, a 970 chipset motherboard and a 750ti or maybee even a r7-265 and would be far better then two 450s in sli. Either way you would not even notice the difference between the 8320 and the 8350 with this setup.
 
Without having used each processor and with looking at it in tems of broad ussage and not for a very sepecific program or benchmark, here is where I would list current cpus. I am sure I will get many people dissagreeing about something but here it is anyways:
a4
celeron
a6
pentium
fx-43xx
a8
a10
pentium g3258
fx-63xx
i3
fx-83xx
fx-9xxx
i5
i7
 
It really depends on what you want to spend. The best performance per dollar would be found in doing the SLI of the GTS 450, and maybe upgrading your CPU 2 years to a Wolfdale Q8400/8300/8200, on eBay for about $40 also.

For a total of only $80, that would be a fair upgrade.

I'd avoid AMD CPUs completely. The aforementioned Q8400 (a five year old CPU) performs pretty close to the FX-4300. It wouldn't feel like much of an upgrade at all spending $120 on a good overclocking AM3+ motherboard, $180 on an FX-8350, and having to buy a new copy of Windows and all the prices entailed in a new build.

Unless you have extra cash laying around, upgrading your current build is a much more economical and sensible decision.

Just for fun, you could stick your old build in a new case, and it would feel like something of a new PC!
 
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janat08

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im doing a thread about what games support the cpu, although its just 5 games. arma series totally suck for it including dayz standalone. otherwise gpu will be bottlenecking it, unless its demanding on cpu in which case theyd support 8 threads. so unless you're into ARMA 3 or dayz its basically a okay buy. in 2/3 years conscole games ported to pc would support 8 cores, but before than they may not given that development cycle is around 3 years or more. another thing though is that its very future proof, as it handles most games today and will do so into future because overall its on par with some of better i5 and okay i7s at all cores which will definitely be used up as games become demanding.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2317222/8350-compatible-games-core-games-supported.html#14297232
 

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All games "support" AMD CPU's. It's not a matter of support, but rather a matter of architectural differences. Intel went with a design philosophy of a smaller number of "wider" cores, while AMD banked on a larger number of more "narrow" cores. Intel chose wisely, as games are still (and will be for the foreseeable future) highly serialized applications that require strong per-core performance. AMD's current FX line will not get better in the future, as no CPU ever gets better as time passes. AMD's current line was actually outdated when it launched, which was several years ago, and now cannot be recommended for any serious realtime workloads, of which gaming is one of the most compute intensive.
 

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There is almost no scenario where an FX-8350 would be better than an i5-4670k/i5-4690k regardless how much you overclock it. The i5 will beat it at stock in the vast majority of applications and wipe the floor with it in gaming.
 


Well, definitely for rendering and video processing stuff, an overclocked FX-8350 would do quite well with, but I agree with you everywhere else.
 

janat08

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it can't possibly work like that. i tried setting up raid 1 (the only default option) on windows 8 while not using any 3rd party software not that i found any i think. so it worked in terms of providing safety, i belief it just slowed things down aside from not actually providing safety so to speak as i wouldn't be able to boot from secondary drive if 1st failed. in fact there're not shortcuts there, like taking a working drive with just <<edited for inappropriate language>> up windows and transfering all of the data/settings/wtv on another installation. im saying this so that you could get perspective on how much of a pain in the ass it's going to be even if you get another 500 drive or 2 1T drives. also 0 raid makes twice as likely that you lose your data.