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295x2 Bad FPS

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September 26, 2014 7:30:02 PM

Hey Guys I've built a high end gaming computer using

Radeon 295x2, XFX model
Intel 4960X Extreme Edition
Rampage IV Black Edition
64 GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 mHz (Motherboard pushing down to 1333mHz)
1300W EVGA PSU
H110i CPU Cooler

CPU runs at 30-45 degrees under load, graphics card around 60, not too hot.

I'm running games like Crysis 2 at 20-35 FPS and Shogun 2 at 10-25fps. This performance is awful for the card.
I'm running max settings at 2560x1440 Resolution. Anyone got any ideas?

I've also got the latest bios and 14.4 AMD Drivers, I toned back from the Betas, they had the same Issue.

Thanks Guys

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September 26, 2014 7:48:22 PM

What is your gpu usage on both of the cores while playing crysis 2? Also if you completely wipe your AMD driver using driver sweeper.

Uninstall your AMD drivers.
Download driversweeper http://www.guru3d.com/content-page/guru3d-driver-sweepe...

Go into safe mode and un-install your AMD driver with driver sweeper.
After you have done that reinstall the AMD 14.4 drivers. Also if you had any other graphics drivers (say one you didn't uninstall before) get rid of that too.

See if that changes anything, if not I would look at the card. Try reseating it and check it.

If none of this works it may be a fault in the card but usually that is un-likely.

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September 26, 2014 8:45:22 PM

I'm definitely going to take a look at CPU parking, I have shitty fps in CPU heavyish games but very GPU ignorant games, as in low GPU reqs.

Is using the uninstall programs menu good enough? Or drive sweeper definitely the way to go? Noob question I know.
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September 26, 2014 9:00:37 PM

Also, how do I view the usage from each core while playing crysis 2, I've only got CCC and that doesn't exactly show much.
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September 26, 2014 9:06:10 PM

Download Msi after burner or GPU-z. They both show how much usage in a graph.

Also your 4970k should be able to handle anything you throw at it, and all the cores should be parked.
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September 26, 2014 9:10:58 PM

It's not a 4970k, it's a 4960 X
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September 26, 2014 9:12:06 PM

So you're saying I shouldn't unpark the cores? I'll download that program and tell you the results as soon as I see them.
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September 26, 2014 9:14:57 PM

If it helps, I get 60fps (have V-sync on) in skyrim, maxed, but that game isn't exactly intense.
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September 26, 2014 9:15:30 PM

Unparking the cores can make them a little more un-stable. Either way the 4960 shouldn't bottleneck anything and handle any game out there. Still it is most likely a driver problem or a bad card.
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September 26, 2014 9:27:04 PM

I just thought of something as well, windowing a game causes you to only use one GPU, I'm pretty sure when crysis goes windowed due to the DX11 bug my fps hasn't changed from that of fullscreen, is it possible the system is only using one core?
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September 26, 2014 9:51:16 PM

I'm trying to wipe the drivers but windows keeps automatically reinstalling as soon as I log in
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September 26, 2014 10:12:11 PM

Zkoarn said:
I just thought of something as well, windowing a game causes you to only use one GPU, I'm pretty sure when crysis goes windowed due to the DX11 bug my fps hasn't changed from that of fullscreen, is it possible the system is only using one core?


Remember the r9-295x2 is 2x r9 290x's. Even a single r9 290x could max crysis 2 easily.

Windows will not reinstall your AMD drivers automatically. Windows has it's own display driver so you can actually see your monitor.
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September 26, 2014 10:15:44 PM

Windows is sayings it's automatically installing the 14.1 AMD drivers the moment I log in, it says 'AMD R9 200 Series'
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September 26, 2014 10:21:07 PM

Zkoarn said:
Windows is sayings it's automatically installing the 14.1 AMD drivers the moment I log in, it says 'AMD R9 200 Series'


Okay, when you installed your driver did you use AMD's automatic installer.

Go to the start menu, and in the search bar type msconfig.
-Go to startup
-in startup is there anything that starts up that may be installing the drivers
-turn it off.

Now just go un-install the drivers and use driver sweeper in windows safe mode to completely un-install them completely, and then reinsstall them again.
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September 26, 2014 10:23:30 PM

I wasn't the one who installed initially, I was out of the room, he used the disk that came with the card, then he downloaded and used the 14.7 beta installer
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September 26, 2014 10:24:10 PM

Startup has nothing relating the graphics or Radeon in it
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September 26, 2014 10:27:48 PM

Well CCC doesn't come up from the auto installer so I think it's basic drivers
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September 26, 2014 10:48:29 PM

Reinstalled, everything like that, crysis 2 still dropping to shit fps, gpu 1 92% usage, gpu 2 like 65 those are the maxes, gpu 1 memory usage 3.7k just about all. CPU usage is fairly high, gpu 2 memory usage not listed. These from MsI after burner
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September 26, 2014 10:49:26 PM

The max for gpu usage was 100 for gpu 1 and 91 for gpu 2
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September 26, 2014 10:51:41 PM

Page file usage is massive, like at the top, don't think that means much, of the 12 CPU threads like 2 hit 100 but a few hit 90's. Is CPU bottle necking? Or just devoting itself as normal?
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September 26, 2014 10:53:16 PM

Zkoarn said:
Page file usage is massive, like at the top, don't think that means much, of the 12 CPU threads like 2 hit 100 but a few hit 90's. Is CPU bottle necking? Or just devoting itself as normal?


What is gpu usage while playing crysis 2? if it drops below 98% that means something is bottlenecking it.
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September 26, 2014 10:56:45 PM

They both constantly leap up and down, anywhere from 40 to 100 for GPU 1 and gpu 2 is anywhere from 40, maxing at 91
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September 26, 2014 11:06:40 PM

After a bit more play, both of them get 100 at some points, but it's constantly up and down

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September 26, 2014 11:49:25 PM

I fixed the problem, I put my ram back to it's native 1600 MHz and now crysis 2 gets 100fps at some points
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September 27, 2014 12:09:06 AM

Zkoarn said:
I fixed the problem, I put my ram back to it's native 1600 MHz and now crysis 2 gets 100fps at some points


You overclocked the card?
Okay so is it fixed now or are there still bad fps problems?
Maybe the memory chips were over heating (memory temp does not show in monitoring) Then the card clocked down to protect itself. Im not sure if the cooler covers the chips.
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September 27, 2014 12:12:22 AM

No I didn't over clock the card, the motherboard naturally under clocks RAM of 1600 MHz to 1333mhz, I changed it back to 1600 and it fixed the problem, but my computer crashed during an intense. Like, super intense, shogun 2 ultra battle for some reason and I had to turn it off from the power supply to get it to post, hopefully it doesn't stuff up, I'll find out soon
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September 27, 2014 12:13:20 AM

Hmmm it got stuck on error code 62, seems I have to reflash the bios again
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September 27, 2014 12:19:32 AM

hmmmm.. sounds like more than just a problem with the card.
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September 27, 2014 12:20:58 AM

Do you suspect mobo trouble?
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September 27, 2014 12:31:14 AM

should mention, FPS difference between 1333 and 1600 would be a frame or two, not a whopping 65. The reason your mobo downclocks to 1333 is for stability. With 64Gbs memory, you're using all dimms which puts more stress on the memory controller. Your system runs fine with 1333, if you want to run it at 1600 will have to apply more voltage to the memory controller. I'm not an expert in overclocking so couldn't tell you by how much.

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September 27, 2014 12:31:27 AM

Boot_device LeD going off, so something is wrong with that
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September 27, 2014 12:34:12 AM

Well I didn't think it should make a difference either but it was like a 75 fps difference is crysis 2
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September 27, 2014 12:35:03 AM

If it needs to be 1600, where would I find the right voltage for it?
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September 27, 2014 12:49:49 AM

Changed the voltages and the timings to match the specs for the ram at 1600, hope for the best.
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September 27, 2014 12:50:07 AM

Zkoarn said:
If it needs to be 1600, where would I find the right voltage for it?


I think for the Gskill memory at 1600mhz it should work at 1.5v. That's what it should be set at already though.
Don't hold me on that though, Im not keen nor an expert on overclocking memory.

Boju is right though, memory speed shouldn't be a problem.
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September 27, 2014 12:53:49 AM

Is this machine for more than gaming? You certainly do not need 64 gigs for gaming.

I would pull out all but 16 GB of RAM out
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September 27, 2014 1:01:08 AM

It's for video and music editing as well, I'm thinking maybe I should take out 32gb of ram. The timings and the voltage and everything in bios don't match up with what is normally meant to be there.
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September 27, 2014 1:02:43 AM

For some reason it keeps freaking out whenever I set it to 1600mHz, but at 1333 I get fps lag to extreme
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September 27, 2014 1:05:33 AM

Would I have an easier time being at 1600mHz with only 36 gb?
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September 27, 2014 1:06:21 AM

Try removing half your memory. Was thinking the same, running @ 1600 (and gaining so much fps if its possibe) could possibly be an exploit in an anomaly (fault) with your motherboard having all dimms populated. Possibly there is a glitch with the memory controller/mobo. Running 64GB is pretty full on with most mobos and makers of them wouldn't receive much feedback on quality control as not as many people would have that much memory in my opinion.

See if it makes any difference @ 1333 having half the memory.
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September 27, 2014 1:17:42 AM

Giving it a go, weird though, current bios on this motherboard designed to take up to 128 gb ram. If this fixes it, I'll swap it out for the 2133mhz 32 gb corsair ram or the 2433 MHz, no point wasting ram sticks
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September 27, 2014 1:21:26 AM

Now it won't pick up my mouse or keyboard...
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September 27, 2014 1:24:47 AM

Okay, that stupid problem out of the way, it's time to test the game
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September 27, 2014 1:27:22 AM

No dice, 32gb at 1333mHz isn't doing well
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September 27, 2014 1:37:58 AM

try again at 1600
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September 27, 2014 1:38:01 AM

Setting 32gb to 1600mhz does the same massive improvement
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September 27, 2014 1:40:35 AM

Except my sound for my rig is gone now O_o
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September 27, 2014 1:52:48 AM

Something is not right. A drastic increase like that suggests there's a problem with the board.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1942737/differen... just some outside comments about 1600 vs 2400 memory.

If indeed system memory is holding your system back, you'd better replace your motherboard, certainly not normal.
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September 27, 2014 1:57:48 AM

Perhaps a change to a higher MHz 32gb kit is in order, if I can get everything to work at 1600mhz though, I'm happy,
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