4 GB Ram not working, but the old 2 GB does work!

kathir-5ghz · Sep 27, 2014

Recently, a day back, I bought a new 4 GB RAM (Transcend DDR3). My OS- Windows 8 Pro, 32bit.It's just a normal RAM upgrade. But the 4gb does not work. Here's what happens. Whenever I install the 4gb ram (only) and boot up the computer, the monitor does not switch on. It remains in "power saving mode"(lg monitor).The rest of the computer works fine. i.e , the cooling fan spins and the h100i pump works. My mobo is MSI G41m-p26. I even have a Gainward GTX 650 1gb GPU, but i disconnected it(didn't want to troubleshoot with and without gpu every time). My first concern is whether the 32 bit can take in a 4gb ram.Help me. THANKS IN ADVANCE!

i7Baby · Sep 27, 2014

Is it "1.5 Volt DDR3 800/1066/1333*"

barel0702500 · Sep 27, 2014

What is clocking speed of ur RAM. Acc. to ur description is seems that u having 1600Mhz 4 g.b. RAM ur Motherboard supports onlo 800/1066/1333 Mhz so it isn't supported by ur board. On the label of Ram find some text like 'DDR3 1600' or 'DDR3 1333 Mhz'

kathir-5ghz · Sep 27, 2014

[strike][/strike]Sorry guys. Forgot to mention about the ram. Here's the detail that i know. (it's very restricted cuz it was purchased from a local store guy.The only thing he knew about it was that it is a 4gb ddr3 ram, nothin more).
Brand- Trancsend
1333mhz DDR3 ram module.
Thing swritten on the RAM "4gb 1R*8 DDR3 1333 U , 673083-9538 RoHS [1R]" followed by some symbols(like recycle,rohs,logo, etc....)

Tradesman1 · Sep 27, 2014

Pull the DRAM, reset the CMOS then give it a try - if no joy, what mobo, CPU and model # of the DRAM - may not be compatible

kathir-5ghz · Sep 27, 2014

barel0702500 :

No, I knew that 1600 would not suit me, this one's 1333.

kathir-5ghz · Sep 27, 2014

Tradesman1 :

Tried it too. Didn't work!

kathir-5ghz · Sep 27, 2014

Yesterday, I even performed a clean install of Windows 8 pro x64 bit. Also, I connected my GTX 650 back and am running my monitor through it.Still the same issue.Maybe, today I'll try it(RAM) on my frnd's computer and we'lll know whether the problem is with the RAM or not.

Tylerbns · Sep 28, 2014

Is the RAM 2x2GB or 1x4? Have you tried switching the slots of the RAM?

From your manual:
Important
In Dual-Channel mode, make sure that you install memory modules of the same
type and density in different channel DIMM slots.
To ensure a successful system boot-up, always insert the memory modules into
the DIMM1 first.

Tradesman1 · Sep 28, 2014

"if no joy, what mobo, CPU and model # of the DRAM - may not be compatible "

GhislainG · Sep 28, 2014

How many ICs on that memory module? 8 or 16?

Pinhedd · Sep 28, 2014

kathir-5ghz :

Many older motherboards do not support the high density 4 gigabit DRAM ICs used in most modern DDR3 memory.

If the DIMM has only a single rank on it (identifiable by having 8 large chips on one side of the PCB, and none on the other side) then it uses the 4 gigabit high density ICs that are not well supported by older motherboards and you are unfortunately out of luck.

If the DIMM has two ranks on it (16 large chips, usually 8 on each side of the PCB) then it uses older 2 gigabit DRAM ICs which should be well supported by the Intel 4 series chipsets. In this case, the DIMM may simply be faulty.

kathir-5ghz · Sep 29, 2014

Tylerbns :

Yes. In fact, I have tried each and every combination possible with my 2 gig and 4 gig sticks.(2g in dimm1 and 4 in dimm2, only 4gig in dimm1 and dimm2.....)

kathir-5ghz · Sep 29, 2014

GhislainG :

8 of 'em.

kathir-5ghz · Sep 29, 2014

Pinhedd :

kathir-5ghz :

Many older motherboards do not support the high density 4 gigabit DRAM ICs used in most modern DDR3 memory.

If the DIMM has only a single rank on it (identifiable by having 8 large chips on one side of the PCB, and none on the other side) then it uses the 4 gigabit high density ICs that are not well supported by older motherboards and you are unfortunately out of luck.

If the DIMM has two ranks on it (16 large chips, usually 8 on each side of the PCB) then it uses older 2 gigabit DRAM ICs which should be well supported by the Intel 4 series chipsets. In this case, the DIMM may simply be faulty.

Maybe this is the problem. Can you show a 16 IC 4gb ram (maybe newegg or amazon or etc..)?
But, the current 2GB that I'm running on has only 8 on onside and none on the other(i.e it's a high density one). So, this does mean that my mobo can handle HD RAMs right?

Pinhedd · Sep 29, 2014

kathir-5ghz :

Pinhedd :

Maybe this is the problem. Can you show a 16 IC 4gb ram (maybe newegg or amazon or etc..)?
But, the current 2GB that I'm running on has only 8 on onside and none on the other(i.e it's a high density one). So, this does mean that my mobo can handle HD RAMs right?

Not necessarily. 2GB constructed from 8 on one side = 2 gigabit DRAM ICs. High density yes, but not as high as the 4 gigabit ones.

kathir-5ghz · Sep 29, 2014

@Pinhedd
So, how do I find whether a RAM is HD or not while buying it online?

Pinhedd · Sep 29, 2014

kathir-5ghz :

There's no deterministic way to do it, but the size should be telling.

The modules will be either 4 GiB or 8 GiB in size. 4GiB will have chips on one side, 8GiB on both.

kathir-5ghz · Sep 29, 2014

Pinhedd :

OK. I'll end this thread (chose a best answer) after the next couple posts. Isn't this a Low density RAM (telling from the images)

Please chose some low density 4gb rams from this website - www.flipkart.com

GhislainG · Sep 29, 2014

You need a double-sided 4GB DDR3 module like the G.Skill F3-10666CL9S-4GBRL or the Transcend JM1600KLN-4G. Fortunately for you, Flipkart sells the Transcend module: http://www.flipkart.com/transcend-jetram-ddr3-4-gb-pc-ram-jm1600kln-4g/p/itmd4xxm8cxgqw8h?pid=RAMD4XXHF5FR3ZXG&ppid=RAMD4XXHF5FR3ZXG If you look at the pictures, you'll see that it has 16 ICs. This site lists it as compatible with your motherboard: http://www.memoryc.com/msi-motherboard-g41-series-g41m-p26-memory-upgrade.html

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