all raid options greyed out

thelittlestbiking

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I am attempting to create a raid array on my older storage drives, I have four of them so In a bid to create a raid 5 I converted them to dynamic and now all options in disk management are greyed out, what the hell did I do?
 
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you can't create a RAID 5 array in Windows 7 using windows disk stripping. Disk stripping is a "software" RAID setup limited to RAID 1 and 0 in windows 7, i think you can set up software raid in windows server 2008 and later... it doesn't work very good either (I learned my lesson using it once upon a time. lost everything on the disks when my windows install was corrupted)

As to RAID 5, you're going to need to use your motherboard's RAID controller to make that array. Basically you'll be wiping your system and starting from scratch. Furthermore in a raid5 setup you need identical hard drives, you can't mix and match.

As to how to do it, you'll need to go into your bios and change your SATA settings on those drives to "RAID", then durring boot you should see a "press somebutton to access RAID control" hit that button (it's F9 on asus motherboards, not sure what your's is) and set up your RAID in the raid controller.

Then once it's set up you can install your OS like normal.
 


No it isn't. Any method that would result in them appearing as one drive would result in them being cleared of all data.

Granted, if you do back the data up and then connect them in a RAID, you likely want to do a RAID 0 because RAID 5 can be pretty slow and its not a very safe or reliable backup option.
 



since when is RAID 5 slow and unreliable? RAID5 is perhaps the most common type of RAID on enterprise servers. it's x2 more reliable and faster then RAID 1... which makes it x16 more reliable and about 2/3 the speed of raid 0.
 

RealBeast

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I usually run RAID 6 nowadays since arrays and drives are bigger and chances of UREs are getting greater, but RAID 5 is certainly quite fast and reliable for only 4 good drives.

The weakest point in most RAID arrays is the motherboard RAID controller or software RAID, which is why I use a controller for anything that I really want to work for an extended period.

And everyone here knows but may not have mentioned that RAID is *not* a form of backup, it is simply a more reliable form of storage due to its redundancy (except of course RAID 0) that also allows large data spaces.
 
I have been told by practically everyone on this forum every time I post a question about RAID, literally dozens of users, that RAID is no backup. From my personal experience using it with two different motherboards, it has to rebuild all the time, even the smallest shut down without it expecting it and you have to wait for it to rebuild which takes forever. In addition its so slow that videos literally can pause and need to buffer while they are played off of them because the RAID is so slow. Especially if its doing anything else at the same time.

Maybe all those people have told me wrong, which is literally dozens of members who I will ask to come have a look here to correct me if I am wrong, but my first hand experience with it has been terrible.
 

RealBeast

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Agreed, RAID is not backup.

Motherboard RAID is highly unreliable, as any little bios hiccup can break the array. Using a good controller, like an Adaptec 6, 7, or 8 series, I haven't had to do a rebuild in a long time and only for disk failures. I use enterprise quality disks for anything other than simple home users though.

RAID 5 gives very good read performance, although write performance is not as good (but better than RAID 6). Of course it also depends on the controller, individual disk speed, and stripe size v. data type.

My current home media server runs 8 x 3TB in RAID 6 and saturates the gigabit Ethernet easily while doing other reads, like to copy files to an SSD attached to a SATA port using an IcyDock and the last I noticed the local SSD was writing over 200MB/s from the array while the Ethernet was over 110MB/s to a HTPC with an SSD. These are large sequential files though, which are easy for all the devices. The disks are consumer quality Hitachi 7K3000 and have been running for around 3.5 years without a failure or rebuild. They are due for replacement as soon as the price on helium 6TB comes down a little more.

 
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correct. RAID is not backup. RAID (other then 0) is about building redundancy into your system to protect you from hardware failure. Its about data preservation and protection, but it is technically NOT backup. you can create backup drives with backups on RAID servers, but RAID itself is not actually backup.

The most popular RAID setups on servers currently is RAID 5, because of the advent of cheap SAS hard drives larger then 2tb, you're starting to see more servers build with RAID 6 (Dell was the company that did the math, and it seems that raid 6 is a bit more dependable with SAS hard drives over 2tb in size).

Motherboard raid controllers are only as dependable as the motherboard itself, so a cheap motherboard = a cheap raid controler. That said motherboard raid is still far more dependable then Windows software raid (frankly it's not even close, i'd take the least dependable motherboard raid controller over software raid).
 

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