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September 27, 2014 7:20:36 PM

Intel Core i7-4790K
32GB Gskill Ripjaws
Asus Z97 Maximus VII HERO
Corsair TX650 650W Modular PSU

Will I be able to pull off some light 1080p gaming on this setup with the integrated graphics on the i7-4790K? By "light" I mean Source games, some DOTA 2 maybe. I was going to get a GTX 750 Ti, and eventually something better in a year or two (when I actually have time for gaming). But if the iGPU for the i7-4790K is good enough to handle half-a-decade old games on 1080p without stuttering, I could keep my money and save it towards something better instead.

Also, on a sort of related note, will the 650W PSU give me enough headroom to upgrade to a decent (single) GPU setup in the future? Or should I invest a little more now so I don't have to spend more later?

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a b 4 Gaming
September 27, 2014 7:26:59 PM

The on die GPU is not very good. And instead of going with 32 GB or RAM, you could easily half that for now and get a dedicated GPU that would play much better.

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You could hit low settings...maybe mid depending on AA settings etc. But It all really depends on the game itself.
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September 27, 2014 7:28:59 PM

For the games your going to be playing, Yep you will be in perfect shape, That CPU has HD 4600 graphics which is pretty good for integrated graphics.

And for your PSU question, Yeah you'll be good there also :) 

Here is a random youtube video on CS:GO ... http://youtu.be/pITFBH3UZRA?t=52s

On another note... 32 GB of RAM is a bit not necessary, push that down to 8 gigs and buy a dedicated GPU :p 
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a b 4 Gaming
September 27, 2014 7:30:25 PM

Yes, its able to do some stuff on low mid settings especially if it has age. I would skip on the GPU, test with the iGPU, and if you need to buy a GPU now, but it will be a lot better obviously if you can make do with it.

P.S. Not sure if this is the same for the IGPU in Haswell, but in my 3770k I found I could significantly increase performance with a slight power increase. My motherboard ran it at 1300Mhz by default, and I increased the iGPU Load-Line calibration from normal to 25%. In some games my performance doubled by doing this. It made getting by while my GPU was out for repairs much more bearable and I kept playing games seasonably fine. I even played Metro 2033 with lowest settings on a 1080p display and it was very playable.
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a b 4 Gaming
September 27, 2014 7:31:40 PM

NBSN said:
The on die GPU is not very good. And instead of going with 32 GB or RAM, you could easily half that for now and get a dedicated GPU that would play much better.


This is also true, you will never get full use of 32GB of RAM, doubtful you will ever get full use of 16GB. So you might as well save the cost.
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September 27, 2014 7:41:29 PM

NBSN said:
The on die GPU is not very good. And instead of going with 32 GB or RAM, you could easily half that for now and get a dedicated GPU that would play much better.


IInuyasha74 said:
This is also true, you will never get full use of 32GB of RAM, doubtful you will ever get full use of 16GB. So you might as well save the cost.


The multiple VMs I run will eat through that 32GB real quick; in fact, if I don't have to spend for a GPU I might as well get 64GB. Playing some old games on this PC would just be a bonus of sorts; I just wanted to know if I had to spend extra to be able to do so. I plan on getting a better GPU eventually, just not willing to shell out for a high-end card right now, as I'm not going to be able to play much anyway.
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a b 4 Gaming
September 27, 2014 7:45:52 PM

Since you said that your main focus is VMs, then just skip the GPU altogether for now...and if you can play any games decently with the on die GPU, then just be happy.
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a b 4 Gaming
September 27, 2014 8:25:25 PM

Yea if you are running several VMs then that changes things. As for getting 64GB, I'm not sure you can. They might have 16GB DDR3 RAM sticks, but I haven't seen many of them. Not many motherboards will accept it either. You could look at stepping up to a LGA2011 system which would get you quad-channel RAM and 64GB.
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a b 4 Gaming
September 27, 2014 8:44:07 PM

IInuyasha74 said:
Yea if you are running several VMs then that changes things. As for getting 64GB, I'm not sure you can. They might have 16GB DDR3 RAM sticks, but I haven't seen many of them. Not many motherboards will accept it either. You could look at stepping up to a LGA2011 system which would get you quad-channel RAM and 64GB.


Agreed. The bull crap listings Asus Z97 Maximus VII HERO only supports 32 GB of RAM. So if you want to have 64 GB of RAM as a possibility then you will need to look for a setup that will support it.

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September 27, 2014 9:52:13 PM

Oh no. :(  Thanks for pointing that out. I guess it's back to the drawing board for me if I want to have that option in the future. Anyways, thanks guys, you've all been an enormous help.
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a b 4 Gaming
September 27, 2014 9:55:47 PM

Yea unfortunately I checked with PCpartpicker which has a list of pretty much every LGA 1150 motherboard, and not a single one supports more than 32GB. So if you want that as an option you will need to go with LGA2011 or the newer LGA2011-3 like motherboard that uses DDR4, but DDR4 is outrageous in price so I wouldn't go for that specific one.
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a b 4 Gaming
September 27, 2014 9:56:50 PM

Ironically, there are a few AM3+ motherboards that support 64GB of RAM, but they have much lower performance from weaker CPUs lol
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September 27, 2014 10:24:02 PM

IInuyasha74 said:
Yea unfortunately I checked with PCpartpicker which has a list of pretty much every LGA 1150 motherboard, and not a single one supports more than 32GB. So if you want that as an option you will need to go with LGA2011 or the newer LGA2011-3 like motherboard that uses DDR4, but DDR4 is outrageous in price so I wouldn't go for that specific one.


I think for the difference in price for all that, I'd almost be better off building two separate machines with 32GB DDR3 each and splitting the VMs between them instead. Haha.
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a b 4 Gaming
September 27, 2014 11:04:49 PM

notneps said:
IInuyasha74 said:
Yea unfortunately I checked with PCpartpicker which has a list of pretty much every LGA 1150 motherboard, and not a single one supports more than 32GB. So if you want that as an option you will need to go with LGA2011 or the newer LGA2011-3 like motherboard that uses DDR4, but DDR4 is outrageous in price so I wouldn't go for that specific one.


I think for the difference in price for all that, I'd almost be better off building two separate machines with 32GB DDR3 each and splitting the VMs between them instead. Haha.


Haha honeslty I would agree with you. You could go for a LGA 1150 i7 like you are currently talking, and then later when you have the financial ability buy an LGA 1155 motherboard and a Xeon Ivy Bridge CPU. You can get the LGA 1155 parts a bit cheaper now, and since you will likely only use the Xeon system for VMs and not graphically intense scenarios it is a better option to go with LGA 1155. The Xeon Ivy Bridge CPUs still have integrated graphics and hyper threading, and I've played games with that iGPU before and its not half bad at that if you don't do new games so for just VMs it will be plenty. While the Haswell and likely Broadwell Xeon CPUs don't have integrated graphics anymore. At least the ones with hyper-threading don't. Not to mention being newer they cost more and its really for a very small increase in IPC.

That would be your cheapest way I think since DDR4 is outrageously expensive.
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