Looking for help overclocking 965be on air

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Ok so I've had this rig a few years now and atm upgrading much is not in the budget till maybe next year.

I would like help on getting my 965be overclocked to ~4ghz on air cooling, would like better performance from it all around.

I would like suggestions on what air coolers to use also as I'm stock currently.

Lastly upgrade options I would have which I'll address after I post my rig.

Rig
Asrock 970 extreme am3+ board
Amd phenom II x4 965 be cpu
Gigabyte 7850 oc édition
2x 4gb sticks Gskill ripjaw 1600 ram
Antec 620w high current gamer psu
Cooler Master HAF 912 case.
Psu is bottom mounted.

After I first bought and built it i had major issues with high temps and a screaming cpu cooler. I changed the thermal paste but the problem persisted so I installed a second cougar fan above the stock fan in front for draw and an additional cougar fan on the top above cpu/gpu.

Must have been an airflow issue cause since those fans went in i can barely hear the stock cooler ever and my temps are nicer even when I'm gaming. (feel free to comment on this as there may be another issue here im not seeing.)

Best way to get closer to 4ghz w/o stability issues as this pc runs 24/7/365. Lower is ok if the gains will still be noticeable.

Best air cooler for oc with the gear in my rig? Post your best budget bang for buck one, along with a higher end one incase I can spend up.

Is it worth going to an fx chip instead of overclocking? Haven't heard to much good about any if them in regards to gaming. Only thing I do outside if gaming is occasionally use photoshop cs6, record game videos, watch movies, surf Web.

Off topic.
Gpu upgrade.
Worth buying a while new one or could I get a second 7850 and crossfire with my current setup and reap the benefits of today's higher end cards. Will this cause heat issues requiring more fans to remove warm air.


 
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On the pricier side, i'd get this cooler:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $59.99

If you don't want to spend quite as much, this cooler will do wonderfully:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.49 @ OutletPC)
Total: $28.49

As for your graphics card upgrade, how hot is your current single 7850 running?

Hope that helps :)
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On the pricier side, i'd get this cooler:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $59.99

If you don't want to spend quite as much, this cooler will do wonderfully:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.49 @ OutletPC)
Total: $28.49

As for your graphics card upgrade, how hot is your current single 7850 running?

Hope that helps :)
 
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If I were you I would get the Coolermastyer Hyper 212 evo. I am running the Hyper t4 and love it, but it is one step down from the 212 and it is well worth the menial price difference.

I would not go with an FX processor unless you are willing to spend the money on an fx 8320/8350. Your CPU will get you pretty good performance with a decent overclock, and to make an FX chip worth the money you would need to overclock anyway.

As far as crossfire is concerned, I think you would need a bigger PSU if you intend to overclock while running crossfire. You will also raise the temperature in your case which may limit your overclock as well.
 
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Read through the oc guide. Seems like it won't be too tough with my be model.

Had a look at both coolers suggested. If the noctua dh-14 will give me slightly better temps it wouldn't bother me to spend 60$ if it's par to the 212 then ofc save money. Would the dh-14 give me noticeabley lower temps with am oc? Thx!

My gpu currently runs 75-80c or so when I'm gaming. Is that high?

I see so many ppl recommending these fx 8320 chips over say a 965 or 1090 but then there seems to be quite a few that say the phenom II are better gaming chips. The hardest not gaming use my rig gets is photoshop cs6.

If a bigger psu is needed to cfire 7850s I think I'll hold out and spend on a single better card. I'm more worried about my case internal temps the most as it seemed to be making life miserable fir my cpu. Any recommendations to better air flow? More fans the better or?

My 620w antec should be able to handle a solid oc with a single gpu right?
 
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This black Edition overclock guide is old it was written back in about 2010 ~ 2011 and reposted in the forum in 2013.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers...dition-overclock-guide-raisng-multiplier.html

Both the cooler suggestions are OK but since this is still available I'll recommend it, there will be no memory clearance issues, it cools better than the CMH212EVO, and if you add higher CFM fans to it, it will out perform the Noctua NH-D14.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/thermalright-ultra-120-extreme-am2-rt.html#Specifications
 
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I switched from an FX chip to a phenom ii x6 and I have to say I am happy with the choice. The 965 was the best in its day and still packs a punch.

Your psu should be good enough for a high end gpu and an overclocked cpu.
 
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I really don't trust CPUboss for comparison. I have seen real world experience where it is completely inaccurate. the fx 6300 will have better multi-core performance, and can overclock a little further than the 965, but the 965 has a better single core performance and can overclock almost as far as the fx 6300. Given that and the fact that most people don't utilize more than 4 cores anyway its hard to justify the extra expense.
 
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Thxcfir the updated link and cooler suggestion Ryan. Will consider that one also before deciding this week which one I would like.

At captbarbosa

Yeh I've always like the phenom II chips. I tried when i built this to get my hands on a 1090t instead but there wasn't any available to me at the time fir less then 259+ $ which was too much for me then. I feel the fx chips are simply newer not better in some regards and in some cases benchmarks don't really do the phenom chips justice.

I've played on a fx6300 and an fx8320 both stock and honestly I felt like my 965 performed better gaming then both of them. The only upgrade I really see from an 8core fx would be better multi thread use? Anyone else have thoughts on this?

I doubt ill replace my phenom II 965 with any current available fx chip. But I wanted opinions from you guys.
 
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I wouldn't replace your phenom if I were you.

I really think in most real world applications the phenom will be on part/ahead of the fx 6300 for this reason: The phenom is a true quad core while the fx has 6 "modules". It can run up to 6 threads, but every two modules share a floating point cores. There are situations (granted not many) where that esentially turns it into a tri-core cpu instead of a 6 core. In your cpu, all of your cores have dedicated hardware all to themselves. I look at it as very similar to intels hyperthreading. It is technically different, but performs very similarly (that is why fx 8350 tears a new one in the i5's in multi threaded applications).

 
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I still run a 965BE in my DJ computer and through all it's past overclocking, as it was one of the CPUs I used to write the black edition overclock guide even up to a stable 4.3ghz overclock it still runs like a champ today, problem free! :)

It is a great CPU from AMD and you should easily get your 4ghz goal from it.
 
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