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Do You Think AMD Will Ever (The Lovely APU discussion of hypothetical)

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September 28, 2014 11:03:56 AM

Do You ever think AMD will stop putting more cores on their processors on APUs, the most you really need are four cores honestly, the new APU still uses and I quote

Graphics Core GCN Radeon R7.

When is AMD going to push an APU with an R9 Chip, so we all can crossfire the heck out of those 270 cards or whatever more we want to. That silicon can be put to better use, let stop trying to beat intel in the cpu department and beat intel in the gpu/ Igpu department.

anyways discuss.

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September 28, 2014 11:39:40 AM

My opinion is that they already got intel beat on the igpu part.
They should never give up on the CPU part of the business.
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September 28, 2014 12:50:11 PM

They may have intel beat, but they should still put an r9 chip in their APUS, its kinda silly that were still using r7s and putting more cores, gonna reiterate its just a waste of silicon, im not saying we should give up trying to beat intel. but we should seriously consider r9 chips. and a higher TDP, sure it will throw board makers off for a while but, hey man thats how innovation happens.
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September 28, 2014 4:12:34 PM

If they do that (r9 chips) It's suicide for their GPU division. They need to be comfortable beating intel, but they shouldn't put the entire r9 295X on a processor chip.

As for higher TDP, mindless drones will be scared away by it. The FX 9590 has a 220 W TDP, and I explained to people that because it's still worth it because of the saving you get when you buy it instead of intel (it's now only 250 dollars). But it's only worth it if prices are down. What will happen if you get a r9 295X2 on a processor that sells for 1500 dollars and you get a weak CPU part for the processor (Otherwise you get a nuclear reactor that needs LN2 to cool). What's to stop people from buying R9 295X2 and a powerful processor?

What they need to maintain is their comfortable superiority against Intel via igpu, and keep on working the CPU speed.

TL;DR putting R9 Chips on APU is a waste of resources when R7 beats intel igpu hand down.
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September 28, 2014 4:19:30 PM

By putting stronger graphics in their APUs they negate their own purpose of existing. APUs are designed for low power, daily use systems that cant support a discreet GPU. They have powerful enough CPU cores that they CAN support a better graphics card, but thats not their goal here.

In addition to that, they would then compete with their own graphics market. Why buy a 6300 and 270x when you could get both on one chip? Because its not logical. If there are systems that need to have graphics horsepower as well as sff such as laptops, they include mobile cards.
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September 29, 2014 11:00:32 AM

You forgot to state that we could crossfire these two r9 chips and while its not as efficient as cpu/ gpu. It would be a good opportunity for amd to release a htpc low profile r9 series, msi made an itx one but its still full sized single slot. Theres also a good opportunity to get a tad faster gaming apu to people on budgets, theres a way to do this economically. I just cant think of it right now.

I mean you want a smaller desktop right? I do, i myself hate giant turbo fans of cases. It performance of the r9 on die chip would be slightly less than a full sized gpu but it would rely on system ram instead of built in limited memory modules, yes gddr5 is fast but if you pair 2400 16 gb ram with an r9 apu thats a super small footprint possibility alongside using a watercooler or the shurikin paired with an htpc case, mmmn sexy.

It wont be suicide to their gpu crowd, it will merely make those full sized gpus more attractive cause performance boost.
And to whoever said 220 tdp processor thing, exactly imagine that with an apu, that would be amazing. Already an apu puts out 95/ 100w and its an r7 so if we go to r9 im predicting hypothetically 120w- 180w power consumption on the chip alone.

Also off topic but these cases are cool http://www.quietpc.com/mono-aio. And heres an example gpu that fits in it http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr9...

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