Shut down after 1 second - not your average story

JetSet27

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Yes, I have read "PERFORM THESE STEPS before posting about POST/boot/no video problems!"

This is a long post (sorry) but it's important that you follow the chain of events.

This concerns a computer which was built in 2003. It has a problem and, for reasons I won't bore you with, I'm trying very hard to bring it back to life to finish a project. This effort has been going on for months. Here's why:

The heart of the system was an Asus P4B533 motherboard, 2GB of DDR RAM (2 sticks), an Intel Pentium 4 2.8 GHz processor, and an Antec True430 power supply.

Several months ago while the computer was off (ie. PSU plugged in and turned on, but computer "off") I heard what sounded like 4 fire crackers going off. After a bit of sniffing, I took out the PSU, opened it up, and sure enough there were 4 electrolytic capacitors that had exploded. Apparently this PSU has a history of doing that.

They don't make that PSU any more, and after consultation with Antec tech support about what would be the best replacement option we agreed it would be the Antec TP-550C. So I ordered one. When it arrived, I installed it in the case, plugged everything in and turned on the PSU. The green power LED on the MoBo came on. When I pushed the power button the fans started up but everything shut down after 4 seconds. No beeps. No POST.

I then removed all the cards, all the hard drives and all the peripherals to see if the power would stay on with nothing but the MoBo, CPU and memory. Same result. On for 4 seconds then off.

I removed the round lithium battery, and replaced it with a new one. I bought a new memory stick. Same result.

I removed everything from the case. The MoBo is now sitting on a non-conductive surface with nothing touching it other than the 20 pin power connector and the 4 pin CPU power connector.

My next conclusion is that something on the motherboard must have blown. Maybe when the power supply blew it sent a spike downstream that fried something. I did a visual inspection and couldn't see anything obvious. So I went on eBay looking for a replacement Asus P4B533 mother board. The closest I could find was an Asus P4B533-V, which appeared to be in good condition. I researched the differences between the two, and the only significant one was that the "V" model had built-in video (doesn't matter to me because I'm using a video card anyway). But it had the same Pentium 4 CPU socket and the same chipset, I put in the "new" mobo, transferred the CPU over (yes, I redid the thermal paste and everything), carefully checked all the jumpers and DIP switch settings, and once again powered it up with only the CPU and RAM in place. This time it ran for half a second and shut off. New memory, old memory, no difference.

Having already replaced the motherboard, I thought that maybe the CPU was damaged. I bought a brand new P4 in a sealed box and put that in. No difference.

At this point I had replaced the motherboard, the CPU, the RAM and the power supply and neither system would stay on more than a few seconds (the old system for 4 seconds, the new one for less than 1 second). I concluded that the problem must be with the brand new PSU since that's the only thing in common. Antec agreed and gave me an RMA to send it back. I got a replacement. I tried it. NO CHANGE AT ALL.

I am not an expert, but have been dealing with computers for decades and this is the most annoying/baffling thing I've ever seen. Does anyone have any suggestions before I throw up my hands in total defeat? Is there something about this power supply that is incompatible with these motherboards? Am I missing something obvious?

Thanks for any help!

 

JetSet27

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turkey3_scratch: The only fan that connects directly to the motherboard is the one for the CPU. The case fans are connected to molex connectors from the PSU. I had those disconnected for testing, but tried plugging them back in as you suggested. The result is that they go on and off with everything else.

Perhaps I should have mentioned in my original post that the green power LED on the motherboard stays on throughout, until I switch off the power supply.
 
Was the replacement CPU the same as the old CPU (2.8)?? Or higher? Whats the speed of the new CPU?

Because the new mobo if you think everything is OK would have to have the right BIOS on it to support the new CPU you installed

If it doesnt, it wont turn on or post



 
It wont turn on / or post if the right BIOS isnt on the mobo

According to the ASUS site, the P4B533-V needs the following BIOS to work. Depending on the CPU

Celeron 2.8 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:128KB) ALL 1009.002 - This is the latest beta BIOS. If this is the CPU you purchased, I dont think it'll have this on it

P4-2.80 GHz (533 FSB, L2 cache:512KB) ALL 1004 - This one isnt the first BIOS 1001 is. So if this isnt on the mobo now it wont turn on either


These are the only 2.8 CPUs on the ASUS site


 

JetSet27

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This situation goes way beyond "frustrating" and I was about to give up when I realized I had not tried the NEW CPU in the OLD (original) motherboard. Since the CPU's are identical, and we know it worked with the original mobo for 11 years, that should rule out the BIOS concern. So the new power supply connected to the mobo out of the case, with no memory and nothing connected, STAYS ON. That's new.

I put it back in the case and hooked up the power switch, LEDs and internal speaker. It STAYS ON and gives me the long beep to indicate that there's no memory, So far, so good.

But when I put in the brand new memory, it once again shuts off after 4 seconds with no beeps. What does this suggest? All help appreciated, as this has been going on for 4 months now.