TN or IPS monitor?

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Hello,

I'm about to get a new monitor as my old broke down after 5 years.
I was hoping to get some advise.
I was using my PC for general media, gaming but recently i got myself DSLR and considering IPS monitor as i will get into digital photography..

I have investigated advantages of IPS and TN monitors but i was wondering in practice how it looks like?

Is there visible difference between 5ms and 2ms response time (my old monitor was 2ms). Is wide angle really worth paying extra money for IPS?
Hard to find compromise screen for gaming and photography..

It needs to be full hd+, 23+ inch, DVI interface as my graphic card got dvi..

What would you guys advise?

My budget is of £170
 
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IPS has more accurate colour, and it stays consistent if you move in front of the screen.
Good TN panels have reasonable colour, but it shifts if you move your head, particular in you more up or down in landscape or side to side in portrait.

Response time of 2 ms or 5 ms will make no difference on a 60 Hz monitor. Overdrive has gotten very good these days at reducing motion blur without causing over correction. If image blur really bothers you, you should look at a 120 Hz TN panel.

IPS monitors glow when viewed off angle. You don't notice it in bright images but in dark images (like a dark area in a game) it can be very distracting for some people.

I would also recommend getting a monitor that does not use PWM back-light dimming...

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Hello There. Since you are into this digital stuff as well as gaming. I would definitely recommend Ips monitor for you. The main difference of ips and tn Monitors are. Tn are extremely in response time but results in narrow viewing angles, relatively low brightness, and inaccurate color reproduction. This one wont be suitable for digital things. And their price are low of course, while ips monitor are expansive. Considering your budget i think you can buy a good 23 inch ips monitor. Since i'm using dell, i give a strong recommendation as the monitor gives an extraordinary view as well as colours. Here are some lists of good ips monitor http://www.cnet.com/topics/monitors/best-monitors/ips/. As for Ips even its expansive the advantages are providing good color processing, better viewing angle. Millions of color contrast and many more. The disadvantage is quite late response time its bout 5-7. But it do provides good performance. Its all up to you. :)
 
IPS has more accurate colour, and it stays consistent if you move in front of the screen.
Good TN panels have reasonable colour, but it shifts if you move your head, particular in you more up or down in landscape or side to side in portrait.

Response time of 2 ms or 5 ms will make no difference on a 60 Hz monitor. Overdrive has gotten very good these days at reducing motion blur without causing over correction. If image blur really bothers you, you should look at a 120 Hz TN panel.

IPS monitors glow when viewed off angle. You don't notice it in bright images but in dark images (like a dark area in a game) it can be very distracting for some people.

I would also recommend getting a monitor that does not use PWM back-light dimming because this causes eye strain. Anything from this list is good:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/flicker_free_database.htm

Best monitor for colour I have personally used - Dell U2713HM (IPS)
Best gaming monitor I have heard of - Asus ROG PG278Q (120 Hz TN)
Best black level I have heard of, enhancing colour and contrast - BenQ BL3200PT (AMVA)

I suspect these are all above the price you listed, but these are a banchmark.
These are all 2560x1440 monitors at 27 inch or larger.
The 24 inch, 1920x1080 version of the Dell U2713HM is the U2414H
The best 24 inch, 1920x1080 gaming monitor I have heard of is the BenQ XL2411T or XL2411Z
 
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Thanks..
Dell gets strong recommendations. Also i was looking at this one Asus 23" MX239H IPS LED
What you guys think of that ?
I've noticed there is very fews monitors with DVI Input?
If i connect HDMI monitor via DVI to HDMI cable is it working all the same if DVI - DVI ?
 

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I have many years of experience of only using TN and IPS monitors and can tell some things that stand out for me. For gaming I always liked TN better because blur is much less perceptible. I have to say though, if I am watching netflix, reading articles, or doing some video work and I "have" to use the IPS screen. IPS just has more natural whites, deeper accurate colors, and makes everything look better.

I have a 144hz BenQ XL2411Z (TN) that works beautifully for my pc gaming needs. My 1440p IPS just can't be replaced though which is why I have both. Keep note around the end of the year, a new 1440p (IPS type) with "144Hz"! is coming out. Once it does, it will be replacing possibly both of my screens.
 


Up to 1920x1200 resolution, HDMI and DVI are compatible for video. HDMI supports audio with DVI does not.
Above this resolution, Dual-link DVI and HDMI cannot be converted with a passive adapter.
You can easily use a DVI to HDMI cable to connect your DVI graphics card to a HDMI monitor.

The Asus MX239H looks to me like a monitor where they were more worried about how the physical monitor would look than with the image quality.
http://au.pcmag.com/asus-mx239h/review/1560/asus-mx239h
 


Dell U2412M has 95.8% sRGB. This isn't too bad.
Here is a review:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm

I can't find a detailed review like this on the Asus PA238Q, but these PA series monitors are specifically marketed on excellent colour.
The Asus PA238Q is a 16:9 monitor while the Dell U2412M is 16:10. There is another model, the Dell U2414H which is 16:9 the same as the Asus. It is not a huge difference, but some people have a preference.

Here is a review of the Dell U2414H:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2414h.htm
 

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Thanks all for info and help.
In the end I decided to get Asus PA238Q
Perhaps its not the greatest choice but most of reviews online give it good credit.
Also comparing to Dell its 6ms (as Im gaming too as well as work on it) and it covers whole sRGB..

I hope I wont regret :)
 

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Looks like a promising monitor :) look luck with the purchase and give us your feedback on it when you get it
 


I think you'll be happy with this.
The response time of 6 ms compared to 8 ms will make no difference. These are both slower than gaming monitors but I don't think image blur will be a big problem for you.
Where the PA238Q should really shine is for your digital photography work. The colour should be great.
The monitor probably has an sRGB setting. I expect this will give you the most accurate colour over other modes.
 

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Nice :) Ive just been through few forums and it looks like people moaning about anti glare makes picture looks distorted and colours dull (which would go bad with full sRGB screen), how it is like? Ive only had old Acer 8yr old matte and its horrible, it looks like dirty screen on the whites cause of ag.

I usually sit on my the PC evenings
 


Pretty much all monitors have an anti-glare coating.
The more aggressive this is at reducing glare, the more negative impact it has on the image.
It varies from one model to another.
I haven't seen this particular monitor or read a review.
 

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Here is some update:

I have received that monitor, switched itg on and i must say colours are beautiful comparing to my Samsung TV connected as 2nd but... monitor turnd out to be faulty :) Flickering, changing contgrast on its own so i will be returning it.

Also as I was glossy screen user before, I really dont think I can sacrifice quality for anti glare
Ive noticed "grainess" of the screen straight away and didnt like it. I just go for dark curtains :)

So.. can you guys advise me on some good IPS monitor but glossy please?

It is difficult to find one.
 

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True, but the color gamut is not on par with even lower end IPS screens. Contrast is for people who buy OLED and Plasmas.
 


72% NTSC corresponds to around 99% sRGB. This is on par with most non-professional IPS monitors.
The review found a calibrated dE average of 0.4, which is again on par with good IPS monitors.
The only other glossy monitor I have been able to find is the Dell S2740L. This is IPS but the colour gamut is the same as the S2440L and the pixel pitch is larger being a 27 inch 1920x1080 display.

I have heard the plasmas comment before but aren't aware of any plasma monitors myself. What offerings are out there for OLED or Plasma monitors?