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September 29, 2014 5:06:49 AM

I posted days ago of maybe choosing an Intel based cpu [g3258] for my gaming pc.
But I had seen this CPU with 6 cores which is perfect for my gaming habits [Streaming Music and ALT-TABBING to my Facebook at the same time *correct me if I'm wrong about my core utilization understanding.]

So I need help choosing the right parts for making a good, solely focused on gaming PC.

GAMES I WOULD LIKE TO PLAY :
Dota 2, CrossFire (yes its a game), Soldier Front 2 and some browser games from Facebook i.e Dragon City

WOULD I STREAM/RECORD?
No. Just gameplay.

PERIPHERALS YOU OWN? [PLEASE HELP WITH THE MONITOR TO CHOOSE]
Would buy together with the build but I'm a dummy on choosing gaming monitors, but for reference I want all those titles I written to be maxed out at 1080p, as smooth as possible. Maybe turning on VSYNC & Anti-Aliasing for Dota 2 and Soldier Front 2.

DO YOU WANT TO OVERCLOCK?
No. The stock cooler would be enough.

WILL YOU UPGRADE THIS BUILD?
Yes. Maybe 2-3 years

This is too long to read and I appreciate those who would read :) 

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September 29, 2014 5:16:53 AM

I would go with the Pentium - http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-G3258-vs-AMD-FX-6300

FX6300 build -

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($185.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.48 @ OutletPC)
Total: $709.32
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September 29, 2014 5:25:13 AM

If you're not going to overclock the Pentium or the FX6300 then I'd stick with the Pentium too. You can overclock the Pentium on the stock cooler a little though so it would be worth considering.

the games you mentioned don't make much use of lots of threads so you'll be better off with a CPU that has really strong performance per thread even if there are fewer threads in total.

Going with the Pentium also gives you the opportunity to step up to an i5 in the future
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September 29, 2014 5:25:20 AM

Can you give me a 500$ alternative? :) 
Sorry for being picky/
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September 29, 2014 5:26:24 AM

Neovizard said:
Can you give me a 500$ alternative? :) 
Sorry for being picky/



Do you mean a $500 FX6300 build?

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September 29, 2014 5:27:32 AM

plywrlw said:
If you're not going to overclock the Pentium or the FX6300 then I'd stick with the Pentium too. You can overclock the Pentium on the stock cooler a little though so it would be worth considering.

the games you mentioned don't make much use of lots of threads so you'll be better off with a CPU that has really strong performance per thread even if there are fewer threads in total.

Going with the Pentium also gives you the opportunity to step up to an i5 in the future

but how about streaming music and alt+tabbing facebook at the same time? wouldn't it utilize the cpu @ 100%?

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September 29, 2014 5:28:30 AM

yes. Or much better alternative to FX-6300?. I can give it a thought. But for now I had my eyes on FX-6300.
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September 29, 2014 5:30:44 AM

Does the $500 include Windows?

Think of it as a factory. The FX6300 has 6 of conveyor belts but they all move slowly. The G3258 has only two conveyor belts but they move really fast
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September 29, 2014 5:35:04 AM

The things that I need is a psu, dedicated gpu, cpu, 8GB ram and a 500GB Storage
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September 29, 2014 5:42:05 AM

OK. no need to go with the G3258, you're not an overclocker and that's fine. The best solution for you would be an i3 as an i5 is just a bit out of your budget. At stock clocks it will outperform the FX6300, especially with the tasks you perform.

The biggest advantage of the FX6300 over the i3 is that it's a good little overclocker but it's also hot, slow (especially at stock speeds) and the motherboards that support it are yesterdays news (infact they're so old they're last weeks news!)

the i3 is modern, less power hungry, doesn't run as hot and has hyperthreading. the hyperthreading addresses the multitasking issues you're concerned about as it many situations (including the ones you describe) it performs much like it has 4 cores.

I'd suggest a build like this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($98.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-D PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($18.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $451.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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If you're dead-set on the FX6300 then there's this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($18.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $452.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-29 08:40 EDT-0400

As you can see, I've had to drop the GPU to a lower model to keep around your budget and I'd really recommend an after-market cooler with the FX6300 as the one it comes with is terrible, overclocked or not!
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September 29, 2014 5:46:27 AM

@plywrlw Everything is good in your builds except for the hdd. It has 32mb cache, it's slow, and meant to be used in servers. Just get the seagate barracada or the western digital cavier blue.
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September 29, 2014 5:49:49 AM

Oh, I though the RE3 was based on the Caviar Black :( 

Never mind, there's this one http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-driv...

32Mb of cache is plenty (I discovered fairly recently) and there is almost no notable difference between 32Mb and 64Mb
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September 29, 2014 5:53:58 AM

plywrlw said:
OK. no need to go with the G3258, you're not an overclocker and that's fine. The best solution for you would be an i3 as an i5 is just a bit out of your budget. At stock clocks it will outperform the FX6300, especially with the tasks you perform.

The biggest advantage of the FX6300 over the i3 is that it's a good little overclocker but it's also hot, slow (especially at stock speeds) and the motherboards that support it are yesterdays news (infact they're so old they're last weeks news!)

the i3 is modern, less power hungry, doesn't run as hot and has hyperthreading. the hyperthreading addresses the multitasking issues you're concerned about as it many situations (including the ones you describe) it performs much like it has 4 cores.

I'd suggest a build like this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($98.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-D PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($18.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $451.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-29 08:35 EDT-0400

If you're dead-set on the FX6300 then there's this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($18.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $452.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-29 08:40 EDT-0400

As you can see, I've had to drop the GPU to a lower model to keep around your budget and I'd really recommend an after-market cooler with the FX6300 as the one it comes with is terrible, overclocked or not!


thank you for the good suggestions :) 
Would the first build be upgraded in the future?
I researched about fx6300 and they say its a good cpu when overclocked, and seeing those performance by single core convinced me to go with g3258 again [i'll only execute tasks one at a time].

But I am low in budget for a decent gpu that can run such titles, [Even Soldier Front 2 suffers @ Radeon 7770].

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September 29, 2014 5:58:20 AM

If $500 is your budget then stick with the i3 and the R9 270 , that will provide the best performance for your money :) 
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September 29, 2014 6:00:25 AM

Yep, the i3 build also allows you to upgrade to an i5 or i7 in the future and they will both outperform even an FX 8xxx cpu, especially if not given a hearty overclock!

and the performance of the r9 270 is better than a 7770. What gpu were you considering for your g3258 build?
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September 29, 2014 6:01:49 AM

Thank you for keeping up with my thread. I was convinced on going to pentium g3258. Does overclocking it gives me better performance? Would I need an aftermarket cooler? or the stock cooler will do. I don't care on investing more money on mobo and psu. I just need a futureproof gaming rig. My original budget is 741$ for gaming rig(os not included) & lcd monitor for 1080p
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September 29, 2014 6:04:54 AM

Yes, overclocking the G3258 will give you better performance. If you have an aftermarket cooler you can go for higher overclocks
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September 29, 2014 6:15:31 AM

This is what I'd consider a decent G3258 build. You'll get good overclocks with the motherboard and cpu cooler and the cost saving has allowed a big step-up in gpu performance. It's a little over the budget before rebates but quite a bit below budget with them and the monitor is an ips panel so should look very good

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.96 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($81.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($18.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: LG 22MP55HQ-P 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($121.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $677.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-29 09:14 EDT-0400
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September 29, 2014 6:22:44 AM

I'm just near to finishing this :D 
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C6PRnQ
but you had filled in most of the gaps.

But I think that gpu is overkill for my games :D 
Well, Maybe someday if I get interested in mainstream gaming titles.

Now all i need is a 1080p lcd monitor.
I don't need 4k or ultra. just decent 1920x1080
can you help me out once more? :D 
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September 29, 2014 6:24:31 AM

plywrlw said:
This is what I'd consider a decent G3258 build. You'll get good overclocks with the motherboard and cpu cooler and the cost saving has allowed a big step-up in gpu performance. It's a little over the budget before rebates but quite a bit below budget with them and the monitor is an ips panel so should look very good

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.96 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($81.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($18.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: LG 22MP55HQ-P 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($121.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $677.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-29 09:14 EDT-0400


I'm just near to finishing this :D 
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C6PRnQ
but you had filled in most of the gaps.

But I think that gpu is overkill for my games :D 
Well, Maybe someday if I get interested in mainstream gaming titles.

Now all i need is a 1080p lcd monitor.
I don't need 4k or ultra. just decent 1920x1080
can you help me out once more? :D 
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September 29, 2014 6:24:51 AM

plywrlw said:
This is what I'd consider a decent G3258 build. You'll get good overclocks with the motherboard and cpu cooler and the cost saving has allowed a big step-up in gpu performance. It's a little over the budget before rebates but quite a bit below budget with them and the monitor is an ips panel so should look very good

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.96 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($81.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($18.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: LG 22MP55HQ-P 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($121.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $677.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-29 09:14 EDT-0400


I'm just near to finishing this :D 
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C6PRnQ
but you had filled in most of the gaps.

But I think that gpu is overkill for my games :D 
Well, Maybe someday if I get interested in mainstream gaming titles.

Now all i need is a 1080p lcd monitor.
I don't need 4k or ultra. just decent 1920x1080
can you help me out once more? :D 
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September 29, 2014 6:27:54 AM

Theres a monitor in my build already!
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September 29, 2014 6:31:23 AM

With all respect to the other builds , I don't believe that the g3258 is something that will last for 3 years even when overclocked and as a matter of fact if you're going to add an after market cooler for it then you might as well get the i3 which will cost about the same and deliver greater performance .

While the 280 is a better GPU than the 270X , its slightly overkill for the games mentioned . It might be good for the future however the 270X will do just as good in modern AAA titles.

N.B : If you want to upgrade in the future to broadwell then you might consider a H97 Motherboard , which will still be within the budget.
Here's my build :
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7bGrpg
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7bGrpg/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($98.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB DEVIL Video Card ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: AOC E2425SWD 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $672.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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That's what I believe you should go with.
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September 30, 2014 11:10:10 PM

Neovizard said:
Can you give me a 500$ alternative? :) 
Sorry for being picky/


You picked a $700 build. Why ask for a $500 build?
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September 30, 2014 11:31:10 PM

Because the $700 build contains a monitor. The op's maximum budget was $700 WITH monitor
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