Thanks everyone, I'm having to build a pseudo workstation, Client wants SSD's for 2 for operating system in raid 1, 4 for data backup in raid 10. They are beyond anal retentive. He told me specifically and I quote don't "Velcro, sticky tape or glue them in, I want this done right." Because i would have just Velcro-d them in my self hehe. mdocod thanks for the 2 in one recommendation. I found some by IcyDock and convinced my client to use them. After showing some of your guys recommendations, he demanded that it be no bigger than a SilverStone Temjin. And more or less told me he wants everything in this case.... Which I am relieved that he didn't pic a POS case. but it would "look" the way he wanted (palm to face happened more than once today) I showed him the 2 in ones and convinced him that by doing this it will allow for expansion in the future.... and that sold him. Thanks again guys for all the impute I know this all sounds ridiculous, but welcome to my world. Thanks again