are there any MSI gtx 970 problems
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tsuneo6
September 29, 2014 1:20:24 PM
Ok, I've heard/read that the msi gtx970 may have a problem or 2, coile whinning and freezing images? are there any numbers from this? how many people experience this? is this for all the cards or is it just being unlucky if you get one. my msi gtx 970 should be arriving this week, I want to make sure if I should open it, install it and check if I have the problem, or if I just have to send it back and trade it for an asus or gigabite version
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JackNaylorPE
September 29, 2014 1:41:03 PM
Most detailed review so far
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nv...
I have had several boxes brought here with coil whine issues, never did solve one by changing GFX cards, quality PSU did the trick every time tho.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nv...
I have had several boxes brought here with coil whine issues, never did solve one by changing GFX cards, quality PSU did the trick every time tho.
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h3llfire741
September 29, 2014 1:48:24 PM
JackNaylorPE said:
Most detailed review so farhttp://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nv...
I have had several boxes brought here with coil whine issues, never did solve one by changing GFX cards, quality PSU did the trick every time tho.
So for most people coil whining is caused by the PSU and not by a defective card? If so, then i'll be happy to stick with the MSI card (still hasn't shipped yet).
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Trustdesa
September 29, 2014 2:04:38 PM
Man............there are like three threads at least and all are on the first page......................................................................... xD
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2316868/msi-gt...
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2316868/msi-gt...
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2313607/msi-gt...
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2316868/msi-gt...
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2316868/msi-gt...
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2313607/msi-gt...
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tsuneo6
September 29, 2014 2:34:41 PM
tsuneo6
September 29, 2014 2:37:45 PM
JackNaylorPE said:
Most detailed review so farhttp://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nv...
I have had several boxes brought here with coil whine issues, never did solve one by changing GFX cards, quality PSU did the trick every time tho.
I read the review yes, that's why I went for the MSI version. also, the evga has a cooling flaw. and there wasnt much info about the gigabyte version when I ordered. so I choice the MSI. everyone was also recomending the MSI card.
anyway. would you say a cx750m is sufficient? I know this is only a tier 3 PSU but it does run quite stable for me.
also, I can live with some noise. i'm used to it tbh hehe. but what about the performance drops? are these a result of the coil whine? or also an unstable PSU
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Guinibee
September 29, 2014 7:58:31 PM
kingcarlos89
September 29, 2014 8:06:23 PM
JackNaylorPE
September 29, 2014 8:07:32 PM
I wouldn't use any Corsair unit with a "C" in the model name.
The EVGA is ridiculously priced with rebate at least on this side of the pond and it's got a 9.5 build quality rating from jonnyguru
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The EVGA is ridiculously priced with rebate at least on this side of the pond and it's got a 9.5 build quality rating from jonnyguru
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Alex Kelly
September 29, 2014 10:47:27 PM
tsuneo6
September 30, 2014 3:29:15 AM
Alex Kelly
September 30, 2014 3:44:54 AM
tsuneo6
September 30, 2014 4:42:22 AM
JackNaylorPE
September 30, 2014 5:56:42 AM
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tsuneo6
September 30, 2014 6:43:22 AM
Alex Kelly
September 30, 2014 6:52:24 AM
JackNaylorPE said:
Good readinghttp://www.quietpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1767
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=233094
Do you think my MSI 970 whines because of my EVGA G2 PSU? I hope not.. It was expensive. I've heard some people say that their cards buzz in SLI.
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JackNaylorPE
September 30, 2014 7:16:44 AM
I have never experienced coil whine in a personal build. Whether it's by careful selection of components or dumb luck who can say. Of course, have had a few come in the door. I pointed to those links cause they had some useful information .... I particularly like the glue gun and paper towel tube discussion for locating the source which you won't likely find in electronic textbooks but I have heard of peeps solving the problem this way several times. Another user told me he solved it by sliding a thermal pad under the coil.
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n3cw4rr10r
September 30, 2014 7:22:10 AM
tsuneo6 said:
I read the review yes, that's why I went for the MSI version. also, the evga has a cooling flaw. and there wasnt much info about the gigabyte version when I ordered. so I choice the MSI. everyone was also recomending the MSI card.
anyway. would you say a cx750m is sufficient? I know this is only a tier 3 PSU but it does run quite stable for me.
also, I can live with some noise. i'm used to it tbh hehe. but what about the performance drops? are these a result of the coil whine? or also an unstable PSU
I use the CX750 myself. Have been using it for a couple years on my second rig and it powers a Gigabyte 7970 Ghz edition. You will have no problems using it on a GTX 970.
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JackNaylorPE
September 30, 2014 7:30:12 AM
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tsuneo6
September 30, 2014 7:34:52 AM
JackNaylorPE said:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-b...http://www.overclock.net/t/1470731/corsair-cx600-psu-on...
Before i start i just want to say the CX750 is not the same PSU as the CX430/500/600 which is why i dont talk about the CX750 here
and I couldnt realy find any other reviews about the cx750. though it'd be alright ebcause of the 80 bronze qualification
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n3cw4rr10r
September 30, 2014 7:45:57 AM
JackNaylorPE said:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-b...http://www.overclock.net/t/1470731/corsair-cx600-psu-on...
While that "maybe" true, I am just speaking from personal experience.
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tsuneo6
September 30, 2014 7:47:19 AM
n3cw4rr10r said:
JackNaylorPE said:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-b...http://www.overclock.net/t/1470731/corsair-cx600-psu-on...
While that "maybe" true, I am just speaking from personal experience.
ye, I will upgrade my PSU next though, it'll just have to wait some months!^^
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cowboydude99
September 30, 2014 7:57:12 AM
tsuneo6 said:
Ok, I've heard/read that the msi gtx970 may have a problem or 2, coile whinning and freezing images? are there any numbers from this? how many people experience this? is this for all the cards or is it just being unlucky if you get one. my msi gtx 970 should be arriving this week, I want to make sure if I should open it, install it and check if I have the problem, or if I just have to send it back and trade it for an asus or gigabite versionIf I remember correctly the coil whine is from not limiting the FPS. So not so demanding games might try to render hundreds or thousands of FPS.
You can limit the # of FPS using MSI Afterburner, or like software. I am not 100% sure, but check out Google... I think that might help.
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JackNaylorPE
September 30, 2014 8:13:14 AM
Well the CX600 is also Bronze so by your criteria the CX600 will be "alright" too ..... but it clearly isn't
Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum is simply a measure of electrical efficiency as in "how green a PSU is", and not a definitive indicator of PSU quality .... I could not even tell you what the "metal" rating is in any PSU I won because it does not factor into the purchasing decision.
Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum is simply a measure of electrical efficiency as in "how green a PSU is", and not a definitive indicator of PSU quality .... I could not even tell you what the "metal" rating is in any PSU I won because it does not factor into the purchasing decision.
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tsuneo6
September 30, 2014 9:00:20 AM
cowboydude99
September 30, 2014 9:02:13 AM
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JackNaylorPE
September 30, 2014 9:18:22 AM
tsuneo6 said:
hmm, one more question. I could google it, but while we're on the topic I might aswell ask. what's the wattage I will need to run gtx970's in SLI(2-way)and i'll have to kepe an eye open for a decent seasonic made PSU then.
All current nVidia cards listed here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2311121/power-su...
the solid buy right now in US is the EVGA B2 .... not as good as the G2 but 9.5 build quality rating and $50 on newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Pretyy funny when ya look at the PSU costs $50 and the colored cable sets cost $91
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tsuneo6
September 30, 2014 9:31:08 AM
JackNaylorPE said:
tsuneo6 said:
hmm, one more question. I could google it, but while we're on the topic I might aswell ask. what's the wattage I will need to run gtx970's in SLI(2-way)and i'll have to kepe an eye open for a decent seasonic made PSU then.
All current nVidia cards listed here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2311121/power-su...
the solid buy right now in US is the EVGA B2 .... not as good as the G2 but 9.5 build quality rating and $50 on newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Pretyy funny when ya look at the PSU costs $50 and the colored cable sets cost $91
tnx for all the help! you sure spared me lots of googling ^^
I'll be keeping an eye out on discounts on good PSU's then.
and ty to the rest aswell ofc!
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JackNaylorPE
September 30, 2014 9:37:08 AM
EVGA B2 750 watter does two 970s and is $50 (9.5 jonnyguru build quality rating)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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tsuneo6
September 30, 2014 10:23:51 AM
Alex Kelly
September 30, 2014 10:28:19 AM
JackNaylorPE
September 30, 2014 10:31:18 AM
Alex Kelly
September 30, 2014 10:38:34 AM
Jack, what do you think I should do with my MSI 970? I've got it boxed up ready to return.. But I don't know if I should ask for a new MSI 970 and hope it doesn't have the same problem or worse, or if I should try the ASUS, although some people have been reporting issues with those too. Ughhh I have a feeling this coil whine issue can be traced back to Nvidia.
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tsuneo6
September 30, 2014 11:08:31 AM
JackNaylorPE said:
tsuneo6 said:
I dont see any european shops selling that for under 100 euros. ....Ouch
Best
Seasonic X Series
Near perfect
Seasonic N12, EVGA G2 / P2, Corsair HX650-850, Axi series,
Very Good
Seasonic M12, Corsair TX V2, EVGA B2, XFX Core Edition
tnx for the list!, I was looking into the tx series already.
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JackNaylorPE
October 1, 2014 10:32:08 AM
Alex Kelly said:
Jack, what do you think I should do with my MSI 970? I've got it boxed up ready to return.. But I don't know if I should ask for a new MSI 970 and hope it doesn't have the same problem or worse, or if I should try the ASUS, although some people have been reporting issues with those too. Ughhh I have a feeling this coil whine issue can be traced back to Nvidia. Could try the glue gun / parafin method.
Post No. 5
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=233094
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-technical/263342-gettin...
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tsuneo6
October 2, 2014 3:35:39 PM
Guinibee
October 2, 2014 6:36:47 PM
h3llfire741
October 2, 2014 9:23:13 PM
Guinibee
October 2, 2014 9:25:15 PM
Choup17
October 3, 2014 6:28:45 AM
tsuneo6 said:
Ok, I've heard/read that the msi gtx970 may have a problem or 2, coile whinning and freezing images? are there any numbers from this? how many people experience this? is this for all the cards or is it just being unlucky if you get one. my msi gtx 970 should be arriving this week, I want to make sure if I should open it, install it and check if I have the problem, or if I just have to send it back and trade it for an asus or gigabite versionI have not heard any coil whine yet from my gtx 970 that i'm aware of. I also havent even really got too play a whole lot since i have been working 12-14 hour days. But one problem i for sure have is my BF4 kept freezing on me since i put the new card in. It freezes at like random times too, it could be once i go to deploy and just load in the game, could be when im driving, or it could be during a big fight, EITHER WAY....it is getting old haha. Idk if it is a defective card or just that the drivers arent awesome yet. Ill hopefully have time this weekend to diagnose whats going on, ill keep you guys posted. I also have an unopened EVGA ACX SC GTX 970 in my room. first i ordered that and started reading all the bad reviews, so i ordered this MSI. Still undecided on whether to SLI them, or just return the EVGA and keep the MSI. decisions decisions.
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tsuneo6
October 3, 2014 6:34:33 AM
Choup17 said:
tsuneo6 said:
Ok, I've heard/read that the msi gtx970 may have a problem or 2, coile whinning and freezing images? are there any numbers from this? how many people experience this? is this for all the cards or is it just being unlucky if you get one. my msi gtx 970 should be arriving this week, I want to make sure if I should open it, install it and check if I have the problem, or if I just have to send it back and trade it for an asus or gigabite versionI have not heard any coil whine yet from my gtx 970 that i'm aware of. I also havent even really got too play a whole lot since i have been working 12-14 hour days. But one problem i for sure have is my BF4 kept freezing on me since i put the new card in. It freezes at like random times too, it could be once i go to deploy and just load in the game, could be when im driving, or it could be during a big fight, EITHER WAY....it is getting old haha. Idk if it is a defective card or just that the drivers arent awesome yet. Ill hopefully have time this weekend to diagnose whats going on, ill keep you guys posted. I also have an unopened EVGA ACX SC GTX 970 in my room. first i ordered that and started reading all the bad reviews, so i ordered this MSI. Still undecided on whether to SLI them, or just return the EVGA and keep the MSI. decisions decisions.
oh, well the evga isnt broken or anything, it just inst cooled properly... one of the heatpipes didnt connect with the chip. but it's not broken. it just has less efficient cooling then it should have but it shouldnt overheat or anything.
And about the MSI card. I put mine in yday. I dont have any problems. I stresses on both furmark and valley for 2 hours each without getting many fps drops(fps drops happen, ofc, but it's not frequent). from what I can hear I dont have any problems with coal whining neither. And today I've been playing bf4, and I dont get any freezes or so. maybe you could try reinstalling your drivers?
and perhaps you can just exhange that evga for a new revisioned(is this how it's said?) version. they basicly put a new heatsink on the existing cards with propper heatpipe alining.
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October 3, 2014 7:07:01 AM
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