Fx 6300 or Pentium g3258? Best value?
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TheBlindPenguin
September 29, 2014 7:22:56 PM
Which one should i get, because i'm on a really really tight budget ($325) and microcenter has the fx 6300 for $90 with a gigabyte mobo thrown in for free. But the pentium doesn't have any real deal anymore and its $60 for the pentium and i have to buy a $45 mobo to go along with it. My amd build is here http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Pqg2jX
coming out at $306, while my intel build is here
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LzRQwP
coming out at $324.
Thanks for any help, and i really can't go above $326 (sorry for my budget!)
coming out at $306, while my intel build is here
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LzRQwP
coming out at $324.
Thanks for any help, and i really can't go above $326 (sorry for my budget!)
More about : 6300 pentium g3258
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TheBlindPenguin
September 29, 2014 7:46:05 PM
The dual core pentium actually runs pretty good for games, (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-g3258-b81-c...) thats why i'm considering it. I'm only really worried about the age of the fx series, because I don't want to be outdated in a year or so.
Also i just found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66BiQsOM9_M and the fx 6300 mostly keeps up with the i7 which is great! Since you said that you have a amd fx processor, how is the performance for daily stuff, like web browsing and video editing, and can the fx 6300 stream decently?
Also i just found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66BiQsOM9_M and the fx 6300 mostly keeps up with the i7 which is great! Since you said that you have a amd fx processor, how is the performance for daily stuff, like web browsing and video editing, and can the fx 6300 stream decently?
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CRITICALThinker
September 29, 2014 8:10:20 PM
rmark45matsu
September 29, 2014 8:53:04 PM
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So if you need cache do not get the Pentium. It has nun or next to nun. But then that is a pun. Well actually the truth.
But who needs cache anyway? Well good processors do. Use a pun go to jail! So they say
Also. What games and how many FPS. Let it be Known there may be games now it is not better than. Again when overcloked
the 6300 will be possibly lights out if not right there or past the little engine that could. I am hearin words but I would like the goods
sose we's can see um. Misspelling can be fun.
But who needs cache anyway? Well good processors do. Use a pun go to jail! So they say
Also. What games and how many FPS. Let it be Known there may be games now it is not better than. Again when overcloked
the 6300 will be possibly lights out if not right there or past the little engine that could. I am hearin words but I would like the goods
sose we's can see um. Misspelling can be fun.
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grimmjow660
September 29, 2014 10:11:25 PM
TheBlindPenguin said:
Which one should i get, because i'm on a really really tight budget ($325) and microcenter has the fx 6300 for $90 with a gigabyte mobo thrown in for free. But the pentium doesn't have any real deal anymore and its $60 for the pentium and i have to buy a $45 mobo to go along with it. My amd build is here http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Pqg2jXcoming out at $306, while my intel build is here
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LzRQwP
coming out at $324.
Thanks for any help, and i really can't go above $326 (sorry for my budget!)
You must choose, Choose Wisely.
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These images may give a good indication of how well the G3258 does againt the FX-6300. The G3258 is not included in the image but the G3220 and the i3-4130 are, and the G3258 performs right about in the middle between those two. Notice that the tests in the charts were done with the same Graphics Cards, obviouly RAM, with the Game Thief and AMD Mantle, so the tests were done in the same enviroment for fairness.
As for upgrades, the AM3+ motherboad can be upgraded up to the the new FX-8370E
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_FX_microproces...
The AMD FX Series CPU is making a comeback by 2016
Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-fx-series-comeback-two-years-ap...
http://wccftech.com/amd-fx-series-comeback-two-years-ap...
AMD Mantle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantle_%28API%29
API (Application Programing Interface)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_in...
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As for upgrades, the AM3+ motherboad can be upgraded up to the the new FX-8370E
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_FX_microproces...
The AMD FX Series CPU is making a comeback by 2016
Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-fx-series-comeback-two-years-ap...
http://wccftech.com/amd-fx-series-comeback-two-years-ap...
AMD Mantle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantle_%28API%29
API (Application Programing Interface)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_in...

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Cherry picking one game with mantle. Yeah, that's a good representation of the two. The G3258 is unlocked and its a waste to get one and not overclock it to about 4.3-4.5 Ghz. At those speeds it is generally faster than any FX in most of today's games. Not to mention using far less power. Plus the ability to upgrade on an 1150 socket (vs. the dead AM3+).
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/06/24/intel-penti...
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/06/24/intel-penti...
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the g3258 would do fine for most games, but as soon as you add any other background programs (ie listening to music, voice chat program, etc.) while gaming, it will fall short. It can perform single tasks very efficiently, but it cannot multi task. I really think this is the last dying breath of the dual-core cpu market.
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The 6300 is better if you are NOT upgrading later to a a better CPU. IF you plan on getting a better CPU later, then get the g3258 as you have a better upgrade path. With the 6300, you will get better performance. However, all of AM3+'s CPU above that can be beat by their intel competitor in gaming (except the i3).
The real question is, what do you want to do with your computer in the long run?
The real question is, what do you want to do with your computer in the long run?
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jeffredo said:
Cherry picking one game with mantle. Yeah, that's a good representation of the two. The G3258 is unlocked and its a waste to get one and not overclock it to about 4.3-4.5 Ghz. At those speeds it is generally faster than any FX in most of today's games. Not to mention using far less power. Plus the ability to upgrade on an 1150 socket (vs. the dead AM3+).http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/06/24/intel-penti...
Well, cherrypicking or not, the FX-6300 is the best and most reasonable option with a free motherboard thrown in that whatever it may be, will have the means to overclock that unlocked FX-6300... On the other hand, I don't think with $45.00 he will be able to get a Z motherboard to be able to overclock that G3258.
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grimmjow660
September 30, 2014 6:21:00 PM
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LookItsRain said:
http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/g3258bundle.aspxThere's a catch to that... they are both for around $150.00 after rebates and the Bundle add says sold separately.. Try adding both to the cart and see what happens.. only one adds to it... also, it says "Available for In-Store Pickup Only". so, it looks like a sales gimmick
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Chicano said:
LookItsRain said:
http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/g3258bundle.aspxThere's a catch to that... they are both for around $150.00 after rebates and the Bundle add says sold separately.. Try adding both to the cart and see what happens.. only one adds to it... also, it says "Available for In-Store Pickup Only". so, it looks like a sales gimmick
It may be, but its worth a shot to go up there and see if they will honor the ad. Even then, buying into a dead platform for 50 dollars less with no upgrade ability sounds pretty bad.
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grimmjow660
September 30, 2014 9:30:09 PM
Chicano said:
LookItsRain said:
http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/g3258bundle.aspxThere's a catch to that... they are both for around $150.00 after rebates and the Bundle add says sold separately.. Try adding both to the cart and see what happens.. only one adds to it... also, it says "Available for In-Store Pickup Only". so, it looks like a sales gimmick
Yea you have to buy in store to get the deal. It's the same with my microcenter.
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grimmjow660 said:
It may be, but its worth a shot to go up there and see if they will honor the ad. Even then, buying into a dead platform for 50 dollars less with no upgrade ability sounds pretty bad.Well, the add does not add up... nowhere does it say that both CPU and mobo are anywhere close to a $100.. and what if the OP is nowhere near a microcenter... the trip alone may eat-up the budget. http://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/
"Dead platform", is relative to each user and his budget... if the OP can not afford a $230 i5, then there is no point in suggesting a upgradeable 1150 socket system if he can get better performance from a FX-6300 than from the G3258.
The AM3+ platform has been sentenced to death by many Intel buffs but that hasn't happened yet and will not happen for at least up to 2016.
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grimmjow660
October 1, 2014 2:59:58 PM
Chicano said:
grimmjow660 said:
It may be, but its worth a shot to go up there and see if they will honor the ad. Even then, buying into a dead platform for 50 dollars less with no upgrade ability sounds pretty bad.Well, the add does not add up... nowhere does it say that both CPU and mobo are anywhere close to a $100.. and what if the OP is nowhere near a microcenter... the trip alone may eat-up the budget. http://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/
"Dead platform", is relative to each user and his budget... if the OP can not afford a $230 i5, then there is no point in suggesting a upgradeable 1150 socket system if he can get better performance from a FX-6300 than from the G3258.
The AM3+ platform has been sentenced to death by many Intel buffs but that hasn't happened yet and will not happen for at least up to 2016.
The AM3+ platform is dead though. If he goes 1150, he can upgrade without having to buy a whole new motherboard. If he goes with the 6300, what can he upgrade to, an 8350? That's hardly an upgrade.
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Hardly an upgrade? have you tried any of those CPUs? I dont think so... if you're a diehard Intel fan it's not likely... The FX-8350 and 8370 are 42 and 44% faster than the 6300... if that's not an upgrade I don't know what is... but I don't think you even bother to read the benchmarks do you?. The benchmark websites are a reliable source of information, and even some of them are biased... but the youtube videos with CPU comparisons tell alot and they consistently show the AMD FXs' keeping up with the Intel i cores.
Passmark CPU Marks
Intel Pentium G3258. . . . . . 3979 = $64.99
AMD FX-6300 Six-Core . . . . 6355 = $99.99 = 60%+
AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core. . . 9022 = $179.99 = 42%+
AMD FX-8370 Eight-Core. . . 9185 = $199.99 = 44%+
Intel Core i5-4690K. . . . . . . 7745 = $239.99
Passmark CPU Marks
Intel Pentium G3258. . . . . . 3979 = $64.99
AMD FX-6300 Six-Core . . . . 6355 = $99.99 = 60%+
AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core. . . 9022 = $179.99 = 42%+
AMD FX-8370 Eight-Core. . . 9185 = $199.99 = 44%+
Intel Core i5-4690K. . . . . . . 7745 = $239.99
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Synthetic benchmarks mean NOTHING in terms of gaming performance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVeN6WEGgg
Please watch.
Listen to what he says about minimum frame rates, the average is close on some games but the minimum is not, the minimum frame rate affects gameplay much more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVeN6WEGgg
Please watch.
Listen to what he says about minimum frame rates, the average is close on some games but the minimum is not, the minimum frame rate affects gameplay much more.
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With the Ops Nvidia GT 650 card, I don't think the subject here is about gaming... at least not high end gaming but never the less the video guy seems to favor the AMD FX-8350 from the last 2 minutes. Those FPS graphs show both CPUs FPS about equal, some lower and some higher for both CPUs depending on the game. The low 20 vs 29 FPS he said was due to some "anomally or wierd thing"... probably due to heat. So that's hardly a comparison. Add to that that no one will actually be playing at so low FPS unless he has a problem.
On the small differences in FPS at mid and high end (some favoring the FX), If your eyes can tell the difference other than watching the numbers, then it should matter but I don't think you can see the 10 FPS difference... you'd be a machine if you did. One thing you can surely feel is the extra disbursement for a few FPS which you can't even see. Besides it's not all about gaming, most people don't. And for other tasks and multithreading the AMD's higher clock speeds, larger cache, better benchmarks, and lower prices are more attractive.
On the small differences in FPS at mid and high end (some favoring the FX), If your eyes can tell the difference other than watching the numbers, then it should matter but I don't think you can see the 10 FPS difference... you'd be a machine if you did. One thing you can surely feel is the extra disbursement for a few FPS which you can't even see. Besides it's not all about gaming, most people don't. And for other tasks and multithreading the AMD's higher clock speeds, larger cache, better benchmarks, and lower prices are more attractive.
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grimmjow660
October 1, 2014 6:11:20 PM
Lol. I actually own 4 rigs. 3 are intel, and one is an amd with the 9370 which had the 6350 previously.
My i5 3570k is a tad better than my 9370. The amd pc is just our normal web browsing pc, while my 4790k is my gaming/workstation pc and the 4930k was a gift.
So I have experience with amd cpus and they just don't cut it lol
My i5 3570k is a tad better than my 9370. The amd pc is just our normal web browsing pc, while my 4790k is my gaming/workstation pc and the 4930k was a gift.
So I have experience with amd cpus and they just don't cut it lol
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Both 4790k and 4930K are i7s' and top of the line Intels... so, a quite uneven comparison to the FX-6350.. as for the 9370 well, we all know there is no motherboard with the TDP that will allow it to go 100% without throttling down and you probably don't have it water cooled... So your comparisons don't sound nearly even.
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finalruner
October 1, 2014 7:25:13 PM
Alright look everyone is talking benchmarks, specs, and performance. If this hasn't lead to an intel vs amd battle yet I would be seriously surprised(I lightly skimmed through everything) Look I'm going to say the FX 6300 is well performing cpu (although I might be biased since I own one) and is considered one of the better cpu to use in budget builds for it's pure price to performance ratio. It is a medium tier cpu in AMD and the Pentium is considered a low tier in Intel standards. There are a lot of variables at play here but would you rather get a mid tier amd cpu or a low tier intel cpu.
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finalruner said:
Alright look everyone is talking benchmarks, specs, and performance. If this hasn't lead to an intel vs amd battle yet I would be seriously surprised(I lightly skimmed through everything) Look I'm going to say the FX 6300 is well performing cpu (although I might be biased since I own one) and is considered one of the better cpu to use in budget builds for it's pure price to performance ratio. It is a medium tier cpu in AMD and the Pentium is considered a low tier in Intel standards. There are a lot of variables at play here but would you rather get a mid tier amd cpu or a low tier intel cpu. the biggest factor to consider (for OP) is how many programs he runs at once. If one runs multiple programs at once, the FX will be better than the Pentium. For a work computer that performs sometimes difficult but single operations, the Pentium could be better (opening a dense graph or spreadsheet for example). Either way youre splitting hairs with single core performance. I find the FX at 4.1 Ghz or higher (piledriver cores) are more than satisfactory. With that said I DO in fact run many programs side by side (Zbrush, Firefox with multiple tabs, VLC, PDF viewers, virus scans, rainmeter) I like having many programs run side by side with ease, which having 6 threads allows. For gaming most games these days are threaded past two cores..maybe not a lot but at least two major threads with smaller sub threads, the 6 cores can help there too. For older games that by standard ran on two cores, and some CPU heavy games like MMORPGS the intel IPC can help a lot. again, this is specific use.
How do you use the computer OP? one program at time? many programs side by side? This will depend and vary based on workload, work flow, and lastly user preference.
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Pharstar
October 6, 2014 9:38:15 PM
"the g3258 would do fine for most games, but as soon as you add any other background programs (ie listening to music, voice chat program, etc.) while gaming, it will fall short. It can perform single tasks very efficiently, but it cannot multi task. I really think this is the last dying breath of the dual-core cpu market."
This is completely false. With the G3258 unlocked Pentium, my son runs iTunes, voice comms (Mumble), and WoW on ultra at 65-90 FPS in 25man raids (the most demanding part of WoW). The pluses to this new Pentium are that 1) it's unlocked and overclocks like a little monster 2) it's an 1150 socket ripe for i5 or i7 upgrade 3) it's best price/performance budget gaming cpu right now...period and 4) it's Intel. The only thing is that this chip needs a fairly decent overclocking motherboard and at least a cheap air cooler but man is it worth it!
This is completely false. With the G3258 unlocked Pentium, my son runs iTunes, voice comms (Mumble), and WoW on ultra at 65-90 FPS in 25man raids (the most demanding part of WoW). The pluses to this new Pentium are that 1) it's unlocked and overclocks like a little monster 2) it's an 1150 socket ripe for i5 or i7 upgrade 3) it's best price/performance budget gaming cpu right now...period and 4) it's Intel. The only thing is that this chip needs a fairly decent overclocking motherboard and at least a cheap air cooler but man is it worth it!
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Pharstar said:
"the g3258 would do fine for most games, but as soon as you add any other background programs (ie listening to music, voice chat program, etc.) while gaming, it will fall short. It can perform single tasks very efficiently, but it cannot multi task. I really think this is the last dying breath of the dual-core cpu market."This is completely false. With the G3258 unlocked Pentium, my son runs iTunes, voice comms (Mumble), and WoW on ultra at 65-90 FPS in 25man raids (the most demanding part of WoW). The pluses to this new Pentium are that 1) it's unlocked and overclocks like a little monster 2) it's an 1150 socket ripe for i5 or i7 upgrade 3) it's best price/performance budget gaming cpu right now...period and 4) it's Intel. The only thing is that this chip needs a fairly decent overclocking motherboard and at least a cheap air cooler but man is it worth it!
WoW? Have you tried a modern mp game that can actually use h/w properly?
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Lascar
October 7, 2014 5:03:42 AM
do not be fooled by benchmarks, even though the dual core performs nicely that is when it is OC'd only and that means you will have to spend on a Z series mobo to achieve that.
The G cpu will perform better than the Fx on single threaded applications as all intels do against AMD. but if you are gaming those 2 cores will be detrimental, you will not be able to run your games that require 4 cores to run. As enticing as it may be for budget, just thinking about saving 20 bucks and ruin your enjoyment is out of the question.
If you really do not want to spend a lot and seriously enjoy about everything. Since you are going with a low end graphic card, i really do not recommend the waste of money.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7p2VLk
People omit APU for budget gaming, but what they do it due to not having a legit experience with them. I recommend the above build, because it works and will play all your games at 1080p medium-high without any fps issues. why i recommend this against your build is simple.
You take a dual core which has merit only when OC + high end GPU which does not fit your budget at all. And you have an H81 mobo which is only a waste of money tied to the cpu you chose since you cannot OC. You chose 1333 ram which is definitely bad for gaming and in general again you would have to over to 1600 and risk damaging it to get better results. You chose a gtx 650, crap card averages 35 fps on bf 3 1080p and thats using a core i7 4790 imagine on the dual core?.... 10 fps u couldnt live with that.
I highly recommend APUs for budget gamers looking to enjoy their games without having to destroy their pockets, i built for my friends and all of them were more than satisfied. Playing D3 at high settings on 1080p with an A6-6400k when it came out for merely 150 bucks no brainer there, your budget is safe.
The G cpu will perform better than the Fx on single threaded applications as all intels do against AMD. but if you are gaming those 2 cores will be detrimental, you will not be able to run your games that require 4 cores to run. As enticing as it may be for budget, just thinking about saving 20 bucks and ruin your enjoyment is out of the question.
If you really do not want to spend a lot and seriously enjoy about everything. Since you are going with a low end graphic card, i really do not recommend the waste of money.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7p2VLk
People omit APU for budget gaming, but what they do it due to not having a legit experience with them. I recommend the above build, because it works and will play all your games at 1080p medium-high without any fps issues. why i recommend this against your build is simple.
You take a dual core which has merit only when OC + high end GPU which does not fit your budget at all. And you have an H81 mobo which is only a waste of money tied to the cpu you chose since you cannot OC. You chose 1333 ram which is definitely bad for gaming and in general again you would have to over to 1600 and risk damaging it to get better results. You chose a gtx 650, crap card averages 35 fps on bf 3 1080p and thats using a core i7 4790 imagine on the dual core?.... 10 fps u couldnt live with that.
I highly recommend APUs for budget gamers looking to enjoy their games without having to destroy their pockets, i built for my friends and all of them were more than satisfied. Playing D3 at high settings on 1080p with an A6-6400k when it came out for merely 150 bucks no brainer there, your budget is safe.
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Pharstar
October 7, 2014 9:19:16 AM
Lascar
October 7, 2014 10:10:28 AM
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yeah, that is true, we do play only mmo's and WoW in particular which typically use only 2 cores. My kid also uses a 750ti only and does play at 1920x1080p though (fyi).op is coupling the G with a gtx 650, the 750ti is about 3 times better performance than a gtx 650. So the point here still remains that if he take this CPU with an H81 mobo and tries to enjoy anything on a gtx 650, it will be trash. And yea you mentioned WoW, ok no problem.
Try running crysis 3 and see what happens. If you enjoy bottlenecks then this is the way to go. For me again as i posted above, inexpensive gaming = APU, they are severely underrated because people have no experience with them. Go for it and you will be amazed what they can do.
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Lascar said:
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yeah, that is true, we do play only mmo's and WoW in particular which typically use only 2 cores. My kid also uses a 750ti only and does play at 1920x1080p though (fyi).op is coupling the G with a gtx 650, the 750ti is about 3 times better performance than a gtx 650. So the point here still remains that if he take this CPU with an H81 mobo and tries to enjoy anything on a gtx 650, it will be trash. And yea you mentioned WoW, ok no problem.
Try running crysis 3 and see what happens. If you enjoy bottlenecks then this is the way to go. For me again as i posted above, inexpensive gaming = APU, they are severely underrated because people have no experience with them. Go for it and you will be amazed what they can do.
You can OC on an h81 mobo, there are bios out there that allow it. APU cant beat a 3258 and a 650, not a chance.
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Lascar
October 7, 2014 12:47:59 PM
LookItsRain said:
Lascar said:
Pharstar said:
yeah, that is true, we do play only mmo's and WoW in particular which typically use only 2 cores. My kid also uses a 750ti only and does play at 1920x1080p though (fyi).op is coupling the G with a gtx 650, the 750ti is about 3 times better performance than a gtx 650. So the point here still remains that if he take this CPU with an H81 mobo and tries to enjoy anything on a gtx 650, it will be trash. And yea you mentioned WoW, ok no problem.
Try running crysis 3 and see what happens. If you enjoy bottlenecks then this is the way to go. For me again as i posted above, inexpensive gaming = APU, they are severely underrated because people have no experience with them. Go for it and you will be amazed what they can do.
You can OC on an h81 mobo, there are bios out there that allow it. APU cant beat a 3258 and a 650, not a chance.
Which means you are happy to get bottlenecks instead of being happy with an APU that does everything you need it to do?
Ok i do not have personal benchmarks to offer you to show you how efficient and nice the APU are. But i do understand that people who do not have any experience with them will give biased opinions.
in the meantime have look at what some people who did actually take time to turn towards APUs have to say.
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?it...
Also as personal experience i will input this, an A6 6400k performs better than my HD 6790 which in turn is better than GTX 650.
knowing and seeing are two worlds apart.And i forgot... OC a crap CPU, on a crap low end mobo risking to waste it in the 2 months that is coming because you used a BIOS to make it OC, when everyone who is logical will OC the proper CPU on a proper MOBO for eg I5 on Z87 not g3258 on H81. When you could have just gone with an APU get awesome performance with cheaper and less trouble. Just to prove my point too, G3258 uses 1333mhz architecture for ram and APU can use up to 2400 without any problems still gona fight that?
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Lascar said:
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Lascar said:
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yeah, that is true, we do play only mmo's and WoW in particular which typically use only 2 cores. My kid also uses a 750ti only and does play at 1920x1080p though (fyi).op is coupling the G with a gtx 650, the 750ti is about 3 times better performance than a gtx 650. So the point here still remains that if he take this CPU with an H81 mobo and tries to enjoy anything on a gtx 650, it will be trash. And yea you mentioned WoW, ok no problem.
Try running crysis 3 and see what happens. If you enjoy bottlenecks then this is the way to go. For me again as i posted above, inexpensive gaming = APU, they are severely underrated because people have no experience with them. Go for it and you will be amazed what they can do.
You can OC on an h81 mobo, there are bios out there that allow it. APU cant beat a 3258 and a 650, not a chance.
Which means you are happy to get bottlenecks instead of being happy with an APU that does everything you need it to do?
Ok i do not have personal benchmarks to offer you to show you how efficient and nice the APU are. But i do understand that people who do not have any experience with them will give biased opinions.
in the meantime have look at what some people who did actually take time to turn towards APUs have to say.
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?it...
Also as personal experience i will input this, an A6 6400k performs better than my HD 6790 which in turn is better than GTX 650.
knowing and seeing are two worlds apart.And i forgot... OC a crap CPU, on a crap low end mobo risking to waste it in the 2 months that is coming because you used a BIOS to make it OC, when everyone who is logical will OC the proper CPU on a proper MOBO for eg I5 on Z87 not g3258 on H81. When you could have just gone with an APU get awesome performance with cheaper and less trouble. Just to prove my point too, G3258 uses 1333mhz architecture for ram and APU can use up to 2400 without any problems still gona fight that?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-7850k-a8-7600-k...
Take a look at these benchmarks with the best apu you can purchase. If your 6970 is getting beat by something worse than this, is your cpu a pentium 4 for your 6970 system?
Ram speed has almost no difference in games for anything but an apu, the apu benefits from the ram, not another system. H81 and other cheaper mobos can have stable overclocks with proper cooling without shortening the life of the board, yes you can do better with a z97, but the price is a bit higher, but you can get some good z97 boards for 90 bucks. Apus are very limited in terms of upgrade path and their performance is sub par for gaming, plus the higher mhz ram is more expensive and they require a better cpu cooler, offsetting the cost of the mobo etc for the intel system.
Your a6 6400k does not perform better than a 6790 because ive used a a6 6400k machine before, it could barely run skyrim at 1366 x 768.
Apus have a place in the market, but for the op's needs, no.
I hate doing intel vs amd arguments, but your post are false.
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