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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $773.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I've combined many other builds with this one, particularly ones on here. My budget is 780$. I picked a good case, I really don't care about graphics, so I got the 270 just for budget cases. Was thinking about getting a better CPU, but that doesn't really matter as there both the same GHz. I used to want liquid cooling, then I saw a girl install a air CPU cooler, figured it couldn't be too hard. I've gotten this power supply for the caps, I've heard there really good. Thanks, i'd be open for better builds. I'd like to keep this case if possible.
 
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DwYVf7
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DwYVf7/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H81 Pro BTC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($51.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Low Profile Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $792.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-30 23:00 EDT-0400
 
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The intel CPU everyone is recommending is obviously more expensive than the AMD one, but it OC's very well, runs cooler, uses less power and obviously runs better.

The entire of this build is the same price as yours, but cheaper:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YFGWmG

This build is much cheaper, and will still run as fast as the others, as long as you OC the CPU.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4gbFCJ
 
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I don't really like intel for the fact that there overpriced

1. The build you linked is not cheaper.
2. The case is bad.
3. I'm going to upgrade. This is just my birthday present.
 
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For the most part, this is accurate.



I don't think the Intel chips are overpriced, especially when you consider that they are more efficient, they run cooler, and they OC better than your typical AMD chip. Yes, AMD chips are great for the price, but you do get more bang for the buck over all. If you don't care about those things, then go AMD; but Intel chips are not "overpriced" when you think about the benefits that come from using them. If you only care about brute force, then yes... I guess Intel would be "overpriced" in that respect. But I digress... moving on!

Your original build, I4UC4, was not that bad. Depending on what your budget is, you could definitely make a few upgrades to your build without hitting the diminishing returns point too hard. Also, your PSU definitely is overkill, unless you plan on running dual GPU, or heavily OC'ing your rig. Can you expand a bit more on what your budget is, and what you plan on doing with it? Is it just a gaming computer; what games will you be playing; will you be running dual screen gameplay; what resolution; etc.? I could probably give you a decent build sheet if you provided more info. If you are truly dedicated to AMD CPUs, then cool. Just be sure to mention what the MoBo needs to have, in case I want to change it (onboard USB 3.0, how many SATA 2/3 connections it can support, etc.).
 
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http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=DP2314H&ST=pla&dgc=ST&cid=262075&lid=4742361&acd=1230980794501410

Those are the monitors I have.

I play CS:GO/Minecraft/Grid 2/Grid/Portal/Half Life 2/Portal 2/Garrys Mod

I don't care for the resolution as I don't see it really, so I will play on low on all of them.

When I get enough money I plan on to crossfire.
 
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I take it you will be using dual monitor gameplay? If that is the case, you might want to consider the R9 280. The 280 is a pricier card, but (in theory) it will handle both monitors better. For single monitor gameplay, the 270X is right between the price of the 270 and 280. If you want a better crossfire experience down the road, the 280 will be worth the initial investment.
 
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Will I be able to crossfire the 270 with the 280?
 
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From my understanding, you can only crossfire matching cards. I could be wrong, but crossfire/SLI is designed to make both cards work in tandum. That won't really be too easy when one of your cards has less performance than the other, so you'll likely lose some performance if you can crossfire non-matching cards.

Mixing cards is not what crossfire is designed for, so I wouldn't expect it to perform well, if at all.
 
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You can use two different cards in crossfire together as long as it's the same base GPU. For example a 7950 will crossfire with a 7970, an r9 280, or an r9 280x. All of those are based on Tahiti.
 
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That makes more sense. Again, I could be wrong, but I would assume a noticeable difference in performance if you were to crossfire two cards that are not of the same calibre. Would that be true, or have I heard wrong over the years?
 
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The more powerful card would scale down to match the weaker card but overall the performance would be better than with a single card. You can't mix cards on Nvidia SLI even if they are based off the same GPU. For example the GTX 770 and GTX 680 have the exact same GPU but they can't SLI together.

This chart shows how AMD cards crossfire.

AMD_CrossfireX_Chart_1618W.jpg


It's rather old but it still gives you a good idea on what GPU's will crossfire with each other.
 
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So I guess I was half right, half chips. That's a nice reference chart... I'll be sure to save it. I knew the SLI cards weren't compatible of mixing models, but I wasn't sure about AMD cards. Good to know, thank you.

I4UC4, hopefully that answers your question :)
 
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With that build, I would throw in the Antec HCG 620W 80+ Bronze. That will give you expansion room with adding another GPU, and a little room for OC'ing. You can also go with the PSU in your original build, the EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular, and that will give you more headroom for harder OC'ing when you run dual GPU.

You know I'm partial to Intel builds, but I figured I'd show you an equivalent Intel build sheet to give an example of what the price difference would be.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($100.91 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.98 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $904.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-01 22:51 EDT-0400

Like theonerm2 mentioned, SLI only works with identical cards; unlike crossfire, which lets you use cards of the same GPU base. An AMD build will save you $125 today (according to the prices listed); and that definitely is significant. You'll have a nice rig, and you save some cash up front. On the flip side, buying an Intel rig now is likely going to give you more future upgrade capability for your CPU; and spending a few dollars more for the Z97 board will ensure Broadwell support (some Z87 boards may support Broadwell, depending on BIOS drivers). That would be a nice option to have when those chips get to be a year or two old, after the price drops significantly. Each one has its upsides and downsides. Do you want the best possible rig for today, at the lowest price? Or do you want to have more upgrade room in the next few years, and not potentially be stuck with older hardware? Just throwing it out there. I know some people don't care about planning for future upgrades, but others do. I'm just giving you your options before you pull the trigger.

EDIT: since NVIDIA will be releasing new GTX cards soon, the price of the 760 may go down a decent amount... which may close the price gap to just under $100.
 
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I don't plan to use 2 monitors to play a game anytime soon, I find it quite annoying seeing the black bar there and the screen would be too big. Would this build suffice, since you like Intel i'm sure you're a big fan of what i'm about to link.

- http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KVkCCJ

It's one of TheIcedCanadian, i'm open to buying this if it would suffice.

Would I be able to take the hard drive from my current computer *500gb* and use that? I really don't understand how that would work, will it? It already has Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit, I don't see a point in buying another if I can use my current one.
 
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The old hard drive would work fine - just unplug fro mthe old computer and replug into the new computer and BAM! All of your stuff should be there, including the OS
 
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You know, I really think the GPU is overkill, and the CPU is underkill. Since you mentioned you didn't care too much about resolution, I would go with a cheaper GPU, and upgrade to an i3 (at the minimum). If you want to spend the money saved on your HDD, do it on your CPU. You could upgrade to the i3-4130 doing that. The dual core pentium will limit you with hyper-threaded processes, if you ever need it. Also, the dual pentium is a huge step down from the FX-6300. If you're trying to stay cheap, just go with the 6300. For the games you've listed, you won't really utilise the 970 very much in that Intel build, unless you play them on maximum settings; and it doesn't seem like you care much about doing that.

Pick a build that will benefit you the most overall, and that's within your budget.
 
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Although it's weaker than the first build that I posted I think you might like this one.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qTZnXL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qTZnXL/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $726.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-02 10:25 EDT-0400
 
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AMD processors aren't the same as Intel. Intel is way better at gaming and AMD is better at multitasking than the Core i5 but not the Core i7. There's actually a pretty big difference between them but you most likely wouldn't know it unless you looked at benchmarks.
 
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You can put either one in there as long as it mounts good so it won't vibrate. It looks like it might mount good.
 
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