What CPU should I get for a high end gaming computer?

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BTW I already bought the case, mobo, psu ram , CPU cooler, 2 case fans , so don't tell me what to buy :)

My build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qcLh23

As you can see this is not a cheap build, but I am stuck on weather to get an i5 or an i7. Im mostly only going to be gaming. Not much video editing or rendering. But at the same time if it will cost $70 more dollars then maybe I will just get the i7. But than there is like 20 different i5 and i7, which model is better than other or works well? so what do you think?

BTW this build will be able to overclock.


 
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games are mostly optimized for 2 cores moving as fast as they can go. this can be tested by most of us by locking 2 i5/i7 cores to 4.8ghz and leaving the other 2 cores at 3.4ghz. i can get that out of my 2500k, but i cant lock 4.8ghz across all cores... but it will increase performance in older games and match the performance of 4 cores at 4.5ghz in games like battlefield or crysis. even the benchies for the g3258@4.5ghz tests with a titan black show that there is not a huge loss in fps compared to an oc'd i5/i7. that said, with maturing drivers, cpu calls are not a big part of gaming, and when it is, the cpu is still just sitting around waiting for a call. a g3258+gtx980 will game better all day than a 5960x+gtx770.... its just...
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($88.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($349.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $860.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-01 16:40 EDT-0400
 
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I already bought the cooler and I didn't want to go cheap on the cooling part. What would i use to cool it than?

 
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nice build. first things, i would swap that evga power supply out for an xfx pro series gold 750w. its just a better overall unit for the same price. second…. for the price, i would get the crucial mx100 250gb ssd over the 840 evo, its equal to or slightly faster(though you would never notice) but its cheaper.

but definitely i would go with the gtx970 at $330 over the gtx770 for $250. the gtx960 should be announced soon and will likely be in the $250 range and will be faster than the gtx770. i have seen a few 770s at the $220 price point and that is a better deal.

as far as the 4690k vs the 4790k…. its really up to you. if your sticking to a budget, the 4690k+gtx970 is much better than the 4790k+gtx770. i personally would stretch my budget out to include the 4790k, but i definitely want the gtx970 at the very least.

last…. thats a lot of fans you got there, and its not cheap… a rough count in my head is about $150 in just case fans, not including the h110. all those fans are nice and all, but honestly you wouldn't notice much difference just going with some cheap 900rpm silent 120mm fans which can save you some money. also, the h110 is very nice, but i still feel that a noctua or phanteks air cooler is just as good without the hassle of maintaing a water system. otherwise, for $250, scrap all of that crap and just go to frozencpu and get a d5 pump, an xspc ex240 radiator, two corsair sp120 fans, and a couple cheap $5 900rpm fans, and of course the cpu block and fittings/tubes. you could just buy one of their kits, but piecing it together will save you some bucks and its more enjoyable. but at your same $250 price, the d5+240rad will utterly destroy the h110+loads of case fans in cooling performance and be much quieter at the same time.
 
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BTW I already bought the case, mobo, psu ram , CPU cooler, 2 case fans .

 
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Save on the CPU and spend more on the GPU.

Any Haswell 4-core Core i5 (not 2-core with HT) can manage the GTX 770 without any bottlenecks. You could low to the i5-4460 and buy a GTX 970 4GB.
Also on the RAM, you could stay with 2x4GB 1600MHz, no need for 1866MHz.
 
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BTW I already bought the case, mobo, psu ram , CPU cooler, 2 case fans thanks though!
 
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SO get the 970 for sure and than for the cpu i5 or i7?
BTW I already bought the case, mobo, psu ram , CPU cooler, 2 case fans thanks!
 
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. $30 and performs as well as a 120mm closed loop cooler (The H80i would have a slight advantage over it though)

 
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Please elaborate on this. An 8350 with a good OC is like a junior i7 for over $100 less. An OCed 8350 will perform just as good in games, and as games become optimized for multiple cores in the future, it will only get better

 
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Just no mate. He allready bought the Motherboard, and frankly, a haswell i5 is far better than the 8350.
 
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At stock sure, but an OCed 8350 can tie or beat an i5 in pretty much anything

 
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Still wrong, the 8350 would have to be OC'd to around 5-5.5 GHz to catch the i5's single core performance.
 
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Aren't single core applications pretty much irrelevant? Games nowadays don't use 1 core (Besides some generic MMOs, but even then, AMD's poor single core performance will still be enough). In games optimized for many cores (BF4, Crysis 3, most of the open world games that will be coming out soon like TW3 and GTAV), rendering, video editing, and all other applications of similar terms are claimed by the 8350

 
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games are mostly optimized for 2 cores moving as fast as they can go. this can be tested by most of us by locking 2 i5/i7 cores to 4.8ghz and leaving the other 2 cores at 3.4ghz. i can get that out of my 2500k, but i cant lock 4.8ghz across all cores... but it will increase performance in older games and match the performance of 4 cores at 4.5ghz in games like battlefield or crysis. even the benchies for the g3258@4.5ghz tests with a titan black show that there is not a huge loss in fps compared to an oc'd i5/i7. that said, with maturing drivers, cpu calls are not a big part of gaming, and when it is, the cpu is still just sitting around waiting for a call. a g3258+gtx980 will game better all day than a 5960x+gtx770.... its just the way games work.
 
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I said single core performance. The i5 has 4 cores, each ~3x as powerful as the 8350's "cores". Add in the fact that the 8350 is almost 4 years old and the 4690k was released 3 months ago.



It would... except the Pentium would bottleneck :p
 
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No dude. Games today hardly use 4 cores.
The FX-8350 only "shines" when all 8 cores are used, but only there. You simply can't compare 4 Haswell cores vs 4 Piledriver cores and you know it.
Maybe when DX12 comes out we will see some improvements, but today is not the case.
 
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Intel Fanboy detected! Intel cores are not 3x better than AMD cores. If that was the case, the i5 would be beating the 8350 in everything you could imagine. Using the age of the CPU to assist you in your argument is irrelevant. Shouldn't that mean a Haswell is a lot better compared to a Sandy when the Sandy OCs better? (The FX 8350 isn't even 2 years old... Saying it's almost 4 instantly tells me you're an Intel fanboy)

 
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