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October 1, 2014 6:22:59 PM

I have WHS 2011 installed on my 12tb (4x3tb) Raid 10 NAS and was wondering if there are better OS solutions and Also if installing a different OS will I lose any data as im not using a raid card just the motherboard. Also what would happen if I'am to install a raid card would i be able to retain all my data as im looking at purchasing a LSI MegaRAID 9261-8i 8-port PCI-E 6Gb/s RAID Controller.

HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED :D 

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October 1, 2014 6:52:32 PM

TheMoleski said:
I have WHS 2011 installed on my 12tb (4x3tb) Raid 10 NAS and was wondering if there are better OS solutions and Also if installing a different OS will I lose any data as im not using a raid card just the motherboard. Also what would happen if I'am to install a raid card would i be able to retain all my data as im looking at purchasing a LSI MegaRAID 9261-8i 8-port PCI-E 6Gb/s RAID Controller.

HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED :D 


If it is RAID 10 then you only have 6TB of space ... I am pretty sure that WHS does some unique things with the file system to allow the growth. I think an OS change or a RAID card install will put your data at risk.
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October 1, 2014 11:08:03 PM

kanewolf said:
TheMoleski said:
I have WHS 2011 installed on my 12tb (4x3tb) Raid 10 NAS and was wondering if there are better OS solutions and Also if installing a different OS will I lose any data as im not using a raid card just the motherboard. Also what would happen if I'am to install a raid card would i be able to retain all my data as im looking at purchasing a LSI MegaRAID 9261-8i 8-port PCI-E 6Gb/s RAID Controller.

HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED :D 


If it is RAID 10 then you only have 6TB of space ... I am pretty sure that WHS does some unique things with the file system to allow the growth. I think an OS change or a RAID card install will put your data at risk.


What is the best way to protect the data in such a situation?
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October 2, 2014 4:34:49 AM

TheMoleski said:
kanewolf said:
TheMoleski said:
I have WHS 2011 installed on my 12tb (4x3tb) Raid 10 NAS and was wondering if there are better OS solutions and Also if installing a different OS will I lose any data as im not using a raid card just the motherboard. Also what would happen if I'am to install a raid card would i be able to retain all my data as im looking at purchasing a LSI MegaRAID 9261-8i 8-port PCI-E 6Gb/s RAID Controller.

HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED :D 


If it is RAID 10 then you only have 6TB of space ... I am pretty sure that WHS does some unique things with the file system to allow the growth. I think an OS change or a RAID card install will put your data at risk.


What is the best way to protect the data in such a situation?


How much is irreplaceable? If it is downloaded media or ripped media, it is replaceable. A 4TB USB3 disk would be the recommendation otherwise....
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October 2, 2014 4:56:04 AM

Hi there TheMoleski,

The RAID systems provide data redundancy, not a real back up. If more than one drive fails at the same time, you will lose your data in most cases. I would agree with kanewolf and say that the best way to protect your data is to back it up on a separate device. A 4TB external hard drive might do the job. I also think that backing up your data before changing the OS is a good idea.

Cheers,
D_Know_WD
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October 2, 2014 6:57:04 AM

D_Know_WD said:
Hi there TheMoleski,

The RAID systems provide data redundancy, not a real back up. If more than one drive fails at the same time, you will lose your data in most cases. I would agree with kanewolf and say that the best way to protect your data is to back it up on a separate device. A 4TB external hard drive might do the job. I also think that backing up your data before changing the OS is a good idea.

Cheers,
D_Know_WD


im currently running WD Reds standard version and whats the difference between Reds and red pros and will adding a red pro effect anything?
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October 2, 2014 7:34:24 AM

The WD Red Pros are designed for bigger NAS systems(8-16), have 5 years of limited warranty(insted of 3) and have 7200 RPMs.

D_Know_WD
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October 2, 2014 7:59:31 AM

TheMoleski said:
I have WHS 2011 installed on my 12tb (4x3tb) Raid 10 NAS and was wondering if there are better OS solutions and Also if installing a different OS will I lose any data as im not using a raid card just the motherboard. Also what would happen if I'am to install a raid card would i be able to retain all my data as im looking at purchasing a LSI MegaRAID 9261-8i 8-port PCI-E 6Gb/s RAID Controller.

HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED :D 


I you are running a RAID 10, then it is not via WHS 2011. It is most likely setup on your motherboard outside of the OS. If you replace it with a RAID card you will lose your data on the array. You will need to backup your info, break up the array, install the new RAID system and then copy the data back onto the array from the backup. If you are just installing a new OS without swapping out hardware, you shouldn't lose anything if the new OS utilizes the same file system that is already in place on the array.

What is wrong with your WHS 2011 that you want to change? As a server in a low I/O environment it is very capable.



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October 2, 2014 8:57:18 AM

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I you are running a RAID 10, then it is not via WHS 2011. It is most likely setup on your motherboard outside of the OS. If you replace it with a RAID card you will lose your data on the array. You will need to backup your info, break up the array, install the new RAID system and then copy the data back onto the array from the backup. If you are just installing a new OS without swapping out hardware, you shouldn't lose anything if the new OS utilizes the same file system that is already in place on the array.

What is wrong with your WHS 2011 that you want to change? As a server in a low I/O environment it is very capable.



I was thinking of using at as a home pc/workstation also running windows 8.1 or 7 etc ?
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October 2, 2014 10:08:59 AM

to get the most out of your 4x 3tb, you can do couple things...
_ Use ZFS from FreenAS or ReFS Win8.x this will offer lot of flexibilty
_ Use Hardware RAID controller to create a RAID5 like
http://www.amazon.com/multiplier-hardware-RAID0-CLONE-C...

You can not get a better HW raid controller than this under 100
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October 2, 2014 11:13:19 AM

TheMoleski said:
smitbret said:


I you are running a RAID 10, then it is not via WHS 2011. It is most likely setup on your motherboard outside of the OS. If you replace it with a RAID card you will lose your data on the array. You will need to backup your info, break up the array, install the new RAID system and then copy the data back onto the array from the backup. If you are just installing a new OS without swapping out hardware, you shouldn't lose anything if the new OS utilizes the same file system that is already in place on the array.

What is wrong with your WHS 2011 that you want to change? As a server in a low I/O environment it is very capable.



I was thinking of using at as a home pc/workstation also running windows 8.1 or 7 etc ?


ZFS would be out.

Just get Windows 8 and run Storage Spaces, then.

Keep in mind it is usually not good practice to use your Server as a workstation.
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October 2, 2014 10:57:45 PM

FireWire2 said:
to get the most out of your 4x 3tb, you can do couple things...
_ Use ZFS from FreenAS or ReFS Win8.x this will offer lot of flexibilty
_ Use Hardware RAID controller to create a RAID5 like
http://www.amazon.com/multiplier-hardware-RAID0-CLONE-C...

You can not get a better HW raid controller than this under 100


I was under the impression you need alot of RAM for ZFS 1GB/TB + Extra for OS and headroom. I was looking at this Controller http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-LSI-MegaRAID-9240-8i-8-p...

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October 3, 2014 9:47:10 AM

That is a good RAID card, great for Windows, you need to make sure FreeNAS support this card, otherwise you won't see the RAID volume.
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