Noctua D14 Temperatures for i7 normal?

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I just installed a Noctua D14 onto my 4790k, only to find that it isn't getting much better temperatures... I am using the Noctua Thermal paste that ir came with, and used a pea size dot of it in the center of the die.

With my Hyper 212 Evo, I was hitting 70C in BF4, I thiought that was too hot
Now with the D14, I am still at like 57-65C on average in BF4

This is all with stock 1.216v at 4.4ghz...

Shouldn't I be getting cooler temps with 9 case fans and a new $75 cooler?
Prime 95 it hit 80C for some reason... maybe its just breaking in? (just mounted it today)

Is this normal, shouldn't it be cooler? under 70C is cool but I wanted to be able to OC more, and how can I run 4.6ghz at 1.25v if I go to 68C with 1.216v...
It' like I didn't even change to the internet's best air cooler...

and trust me, the computer should have plenty of airflow (just picture a D14 with the 120 in front, 140mm in middle pulling in and out the back)
https://i.imgur.com/elIyrGW.jpg
 
The airflow is plenty no doubt. Well, the temps are hot considering you have a top notch cooler and GREAT airflow. But the fact that thermal compound takes some time to settle down for effective performance should not be neglected, wait for a couple of days, maybe 4-5, and you'd notice improvement. 80C on prime95 with that cooler on 4.4GHz is hot no doubt, it should be under 72C.
I'd wait for a couple of days until the compound sets in, you should notice difference.
 

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Hmm... so what temps should I expect with this cooler? I am told that the D14 should perform near an H100i's temps. IF I keep it at 1.216v and 4.4ghz, how hot should it be getting in like Battlefield 4?
 
Yes you should expect temps comparable to H100i, D14 is a beastly cooler indeed. Well it should not surpass 70C on Prime95 and 60-65C on intensive BF4 multiplayer would be fine, it depends on the room temps too, if it's >30C, then you'll expect something like 62-68C on BF4 and <75C full load temps. 4.4Ghz is a slight OC, so you should be good in a couple of days if everything's fine :)
 

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Hmm, well I'm mainly 58-65 or so in BF4, so maybe I'm already getting the temps I'm supposed to? Just thought the D14 should be running cooler? gosh the 4790k is hot!
 

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Well the issue is that for whatever reason only when i run Prime 95, the CPU decidesto adaptive voltage to 2.232v, and that is what increase my temps a ton... I tried disabling in bios, but Asus Suite 3 must be messing with it. All other programs, it runs 1.216 though :/

How am i ever going to OC to like 4.6ghz if the CPU is burning near 70C at stock? How can everyone out there OC so well with just the D14 and keep everything so cool? I have a full case of airflowing fans...
 

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Hmm, its always under 70C now prime95, but games still get to like 65C like before... How do people OC their processors to like 4.5 and 4.8 and still be in like the 50's with this cooler? My case's airflow literally could not be better, I have a fan profile set up in Asus Suite III and everything...
 

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Ambient temperature and voltage play crucial roles in terms of cpu temperature. 4.4ghz should need something about 1.1-1.2v. Then, if you got the cpu cooler correctly installed and did not use too much thermal paste (pretty much everybody does tho) your temps should be about 65c during stress tests. On 22c ambient. Now if your ambient is 25c, it may reach 70c.
 
Those are surprising results, My 4790k with a D15 is at 4.7ghz 1.25v, 27C idle, 64C load, though there is more airflow space in an enthoo pro compared to yours pictured.
Even though case fans make just a few degrees difference (in good setups (adding 3x140mm top exhausts made no difference to my temps so i left them out to aid silence)) compared to the cooler itself, hopefully the 3 front intake fans are static pressure instead of airflow
 

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Really? hmmm....

Well I get about 25-35 idle still, and Ioad between 55-65C average in games, with the temp max usually spiking to 67-70. I prime-95 to a max of 72C

I feel the heat in the case, but even with all of these fans, I just can't move it fast enough. The two on top and the 3 in front are Molex cable, so I can't even control those. And you hold these temps at 1.25v with only 50% RPM...

What can I do :/ maybe my house is just at a hotter ambient temp, its in a small room and the air is about 77-80F
 

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Well even with the cover off, it is still about the same temperature. The case is hot, and the heat just isn't moving. I might have to buy a fan controller for my 5 fans that power off of molex. I cannot control their fan speeds. Even then though, the guy above says that even at 50% fan rpm, he can move enough air to keep his cooler than mine even with higher voltage...
what to do :/
 
Maybe i can move heat out better because my case is alot larger, phanteks enthoo pro.
The PSU also has airflow separate from the rest of the case, intakes from grill at base of case and exhausts out back, separated from rest of case airflow by a shroud which encases it. If your case has grills at the bottom of the PSU, try flipping it over so it intakes air from bottom and outside of the case.
Do you have dust issues? I use an airduster weekly, just because dust is visible with the lighting through the window.

You are using a D14, i use D15, shouldn't make much difference in temps but it does use 2x 140mm fans rather than 140+120mm. The core cooling components are what impact temps the most, but ofcourse you need the good case airflow to keep the hot air exhausting and cool air coming in.

Surprised with all those fans you cannot get the air to move out, if the case really is getting hot, (air exhausting from mine feels like a cool breeze you need a jacket for) try switching the front intake fans into SP140's (static pressure) to help move air through those drive cages better, that will get the air flowing to the real components better. Maybe you want to try changing all fans out for quality fans altogether, Mine are intake Corsair SP140 LED and exhaust corsair AF140 Quiet Edition. For LED lighting the windowed case, i use the NZXT HUE.
I did add top 200mm+140mm exhausts (case stock fans) but made no difference to current temps and don't really want to OC passed what i have for now, will full water kit when i want to mess around more

Here is my build, built few weeks ago, will add pics when i finish messing round with case fans and extra internal drives. All fans are controlled through my motherboard UEFI, the 3pin fans too, thanks to a PWM hub included with the case with 3pin headers.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/dHZVf7
My SSD is fixed to a bracket behind the motherboard, so a drive cage at bottom front of case was not required, then i needed the cage for a SATA drive so used static pressure (Corsair SP140 LED) intake fans there instead of airflow.
Perhaps you can remove the cage and fix the ssd elsewhere? may improve the intake airflow to rest of components
Also seems like the drive cage at bottom is position wrongly, sideways? allowing for least airflow through to the gpu/mobo

Try resetting to stock clocks, see if the case can remain running cool. If it does stay cool, do the OC again or restore it from a saved profile. If not running cool at stock clock, switch out those case fans for quality ones. Which fans exactly are they by the way?
 

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I feel the airflow, but it is odd. The front 140mm fan is ICE COLD, but the second 140mm on top is burning hot on top (right behind the cooler). How can I move this air faster? See, the top 2 140mm are Cooler master 140mm (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103077&cm_re=cooler_master_140mm-_-35-103-077-_-Product) and are Molex connected, so I cannot control their speeds.
The rear fan is moving fast as well, and it is a Cougar 120mm (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835553012&cm_re=cougar_led_fan-_-35-553-012-_-Product)
The front, 2 are Rosewill 120mm, and the top is a Cougar 120mm like the one in the back. I have the stock Noctua's pm the D14.
Just dunno how to keep it cooler?