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MSI A88-G45-Gaming A10-7850

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October 2, 2014 1:03:45 AM

I would like to start this off with, the fact i am completely stuck with this motherboard, power supply, and this case, in other words, there is no going back, no returning for another kind. And i am not willing to buy it all over again. (Just found this all out tonight)

SO, with that said, and known. I thank you all in advanced for any straight forward responses. :) 



MOBO: MSI A88-G45 (Gaming) (A10-7850)

Power Supply: Corsair RM-650W

Case: NZXT 410 Mid Tower case (Red)

Memory: G.Skill F3-17000CL9D-8GBSR (DDR3-2133) x2-4gb

After Reading thread, after thread.... After thread. And searching the interwebs. I still seek a clear, and honest answer as to what the "BEST" Card i can get later on, to crossfire with is. Maybe i am so tired from reading, and have gone completely insane from so many words of different kinds, and explanations that i cannot understand anymore, and have gone confused in my little brains.

I appreciate all answers, thank you. :)  -M

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October 2, 2014 1:12:42 AM

With only a 650w PSU I'm not sure you can crossfire or SLI with any card bigger than an R9 270x which Sapphire and XFX both list as needing 600w minimum PSU for crossfire.
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October 2, 2014 3:46:13 AM


R7 250 ...

In a handful of titles you will see near-100% scaling in dual graphics with the A10-7850K. Many titles will see over 50% improvement.

There are also many titles which will not scale fer sheet, and you should set up individual game profiles in those titles to run on either the APU graphics engine or the discreet graphics.

There is also an OEM-only card, the R7 255, which runs well in dual graphics. Otherwise, with a video card such as the R7 260X (and up), you should simply run the discreet card on its own.

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October 2, 2014 7:59:12 AM

Thank you!!!! So, does it matter what R7 250, or R7 255 i get? And to cross fire i will be using ONE Card, and the the integrated Graphics, right? So one Card + A10-7850.

Also, if i were to go a different rout and just buy the R9 270x. I would just be using the discreet graphics, and not the crossfire.
What would be the better?
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October 2, 2014 8:06:28 AM

And also what i have read, is that it does not matter about the ddr3-ddr5 compatibility's Right?
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October 2, 2014 1:15:13 PM

Using one card and the integrated graphics is NOT crossfire. It's hybrid crossfire or dual graphics. Had I known that I would certainly have provided different information. Just make sure next time you get the nomenclature right or else it's hard to provide accurate answers. Crossfire, using two cards, is entirely different from a dual graphics configuration.
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October 2, 2014 2:54:43 PM

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Thank you!!!! So, does it matter what R7 250, or R7 255 i get? And to cross fire i will be using ONE Card, and the the integrated Graphics, right? So one Card + A10-7850.

Also, if i were to go a different rout and just buy the R9 270x. I would just be using the discreet graphics, and not the crossfire.
What would be the better?


A single R9 270X discreet card would be your best option. It's roughly equivalent to a prior generation HD7950 and should work well with your APU and 650W PSU, especially in games optimized with Mantle (like BF4).

As far as the R7 250 or R7 255, GDDR5 cards have nearly double the bandwidth of GDDR3 cards and would be preferable. Which ever OCs best would be great :) 

AMD does 'alternate frame' rendering in dual graphics or Crossfire. It sometimes takes a little experimentation in optimizing for best performance. Typically you find your best OC on the APU graphics engine, then simply test and adjust the clock/RAM speeds of the discreet card for best results.

BUT ... an R9 270X discreet video card will beat-up on your best dual-graphics with an APU --- at least, for now. In another few APU generations it likely will not be the case.


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October 2, 2014 6:36:33 PM

And, with a 270x, you can later add another 270x in actual crossfire, if you wanted, using that PSU. If you're just going to use a single card though, your PSU would support up to a R9 280 (No X though, at least per Sapphire's minimum specs. You likely could run anything up to a single 280x with that PSU in reality.)

Either of these would be good budget options for your build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 270X 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($144.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $144.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-02 21:35 EDT-0400


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($185.91 @ Newegg)
Total: $185.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-02 21:36 EDT-0400
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October 2, 2014 8:49:55 PM

This is the greatest help, thank you both! I now fully understand, lol. I think i was just so run down from reading so much i became confused.
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October 2, 2014 9:01:53 PM

No problem. I'm sure we all understand. It happens to us all.
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