Will my MSI R9-280 be able to run modern games out at the moment on Ultra?

Ferrariassassin · Oct 2, 2014

I do not know what to beleive, people on here have told me it can not even run BF3 on high more than 25FPS and can not handle games such as watch dogs, Crysis 3, and other very performance hungry games on Ultra yet a crappy PS4 GPU can handle it no problem. I really hope i did not waste my cash on this GPU and it ends up being crappier than a PS4 GPU :'(

jeffredo · Oct 2, 2014

The GPU equivalent for the PS4 is an HD 7850, so no, you didn't waste your money on something worse. I have an HD 7950 Boost, which is more or less an R9 280 (I also have an i5-4690k). Its a midrange card with midrange performance (and its priced accordingly). Most graphically demanding new games will be happiest a notch below Ultra or Max settings. At 1920x1200 it can run Watch Dogs on Ultra at about 35-45 FPS. I usually play it on High (settings and textures) just to keep things smoother. Games from a few years ago can be maxed for the most part.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sapphire-radeon-dual-x-r9-280,3914-3.html

Ferrariassassin · Oct 2, 2014

jeffredo :

But will the games look worse than PS4 if they are not on Ultra? I play on an 1080p ASUS 23.8 inch monitor IPS.

Ferrariassassin · Oct 2, 2014

If i can play games at 30FPS i will be the happiest man on earth!

Sig2525 · Oct 2, 2014

your R9 280 wil be fine, not to mention your whole cpu specs..

your r9 at best will be better against r9 270x or gtx 760, and this two gpus here can run most modern games on high and some on ultra at 1080p

ps4 graphics is like hd 7850 which is 2 tiers lower than your card

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

so it will look better than a ps4 i think.

jeffredo · Oct 2, 2014

Ferrariassassin :

jeffredo :

But will the games look worse than PS4 if they are not on Ultra? I play on an 1080p ASUS 23.8 inch monitor IPS.

PS4 (and XBOX One) are usually akin to something like Medium settings in most games.

Ferrariassassin · Oct 2, 2014

jeffredo :

Ferrariassassin :

PS4 (and XBOX One) are usually akin to something like Medium settings in most games.

DO you think it will play my games on Ultra using my R9 280 on my 1080p monitor?

Fitzitz · Oct 2, 2014

Guys, you have to bear in mind that optimisation for consoles means that they are a lot better than their base cards. While it may have the same base power as a 7850, it has the potential to be as good as a 7970 in some games, maybe even higher.

Fitzitz · Oct 2, 2014

Ferrariassassin :

jeffredo :

DO you think it will play my games on Ultra using my R9 280 on my 1080p monitor?

For BF4, with a lot of people, you might get below 30fps at ultra, but generally you should be fine for current games (although you may need to lower some settings to high though)

jeffredo · Oct 2, 2014

Fitzitz :

Ferrariassassin :

For BF4, with a lot of people, you might get below 30fps at ultra, but generally you should be fine for current games (although you may need to lower some settings to high though)

Basically what I said in my first post. Will it max all current games at 1080p? Probably not. Most likely one notch below max for best performance vs. quality. Will it look better than a console anyway? Almost assuredly yes.

Ferrariassassin · Oct 2, 2014

jeffredo :

Fitzitz :

Basically what I said in my first post. Will it max all current games at 1080p? Probably not. Most likely one notch below max for best performance vs. quality. Will it look better than a console anyway? Almost assuredly yes.

I have seen videos of the R9-280 playing watchdogs, Battlefield 4, Evil Within, Crisis 3, and Unity on Ultra at 60+FPS on 1080p, would these count as current games though?

Richyse7en · Oct 2, 2014

I have the R9 280x with a turbo setting FX 6300 and I run last night redux at very high settings average 70fps... If I set AA to x4 it drops 35fps, x2 50fps 0.5, 80fps. I have recently installed Shadow of Mordor, max settings, Vsync off, no limit fps at 65-70fps, drops slightly below 60 now and then. I use a BenQ 24" 1080p full HD 1ms monitor and both games look fantastic and run silky smooth at very high settings

oxiide · Oct 2, 2014

Ferrariassassin :

Ultra settings in everything at 1080p and 60 FPS might be a bit too much to ask of a 280. But with reasonable and (in my opinion) minor detail sacrifices, an R9 280 should be able to manage 60 FPS in most games at 1080p. Crysis 3 is kind of an unusual situation, and Watch Dogs runs like garbage on everything.

I wouldn't say a PS4 can handle those games "no problem" when they're usually locked to 30 FPS, poorer visual quality, and sometimes sub-1080p resolutions. Its pretty easy to beat that with an R9 280, or any mid-range modern GPU.

Ferrariassassin · Oct 2, 2014

oxiide :

The only thing i am doing this build for is to be able to play games better and more beautiful than PS4 but i am starting to realize that i need to spend many thousands of dollars just to come 00.1% close to the performance/price ratio of what the PS4 delivers can

I have spent $1100 so far and i am wondering if i should have went with a PS4 so i could save money and have the exact same performance if not extremely better.

Ferrariassassin · Oct 2, 2014

Richyse7en :

Should i get ther R9-280X instead of the R9-280? All i do is play career or story on games so would the R9 280 be enough to play some games on ultra atleast 30FPS?

Richyse7en · Oct 2, 2014

I spent £600 or roughly $950 on my build and it smashes the new gen consoles out of the water. If you can stretch to the 280x I would highly recommend it. it clocks at 120mhz higher than the 280 and can be tweaked easily to 1130/1600 with very little voltage change, this gave me an extra 15% of free performance. However that said I imagine the 280 will run most current games swimmingly, but new games are becoming more and more demanding making the 280x future proof. At high settings and 60fps is where you see the real difference between current gen and pc gaming.

Ferrariassassin · Oct 2, 2014

Richyse7en :

So do you think the R9-280 will be able to run RealVision ENB for Skyrim at at least 30FPS? Also should i get there R9-280X or the GTX 770? They are both $300. And can you all look at these benchmarks of the R9-280 below? It shows how it performs, tell me what yall think, thanks

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/msi-r9-280-gaming-3g_7.html#sect3

Richyse7en · Oct 2, 2014

I have little experience with the GTX card.... The two cards however are comparisons when it comes to bench marking ect. As a Radeon fan I would be jumping on something form the R9 series. I haven't owned an nvidia card since the 9800gt, I have no issues and nothing but praise for my R9 280x... everything is smooth and very easy on the eye

Ferrariassassin · Oct 3, 2014

Richyse7en :

Do you think my build will do me good for atleast 4-5 years? I hope so. I will be getting the MSI R9-290X in 4-5 years or if they come out with something better in that price range then i will get it. The MSI R9-280 is on sale for only $190 and the MSI R9-280X is only $280 so i may be able to get the X version if i get paid before the sale is over. But say if i do get the 280, i know it may not play everything on Ultra but will it still play games better than a PS4 will? I know i am mentioning PS4 a lot but i built this system to beat the PS4 and if it doesn't than i have wasted my cash and time. It would be like building a race car to race and win and it just breaks and is really slow

lol Will my 280 and i5-4690 do me good for 4-5 years? or will it only last like 6 months because i heard most PC gamers need to spend thousands of dollars once or twice a year just to be able to keep up with modern games when console players are good for 8-10 years by only spending $400

jeffredo · Oct 3, 2014

Ferrariassassin :

Where did you come up with this? You don't have to spend "many thousands" of dollars to play games better than a PS4. And the console with never have "the exact same performance if not extremely better" than your current hardware. That's preposterous. You i5 / R9 280 combo is better. You keep asking the same questions over and over and they've been answered more than once. You've got a solid upper-midrange PC and it will perform better than either console. Period.

Mahisse · Oct 3, 2014

I own a 7850 2 gb and it handles BF4 on ultra with smooth gaming. I believe the fps is around 40-45 and this is a card below the R9 280. Don't worry too much but don't expect it to run all the new games on ultra. But ultra is overrated anyway

Ferrariassassin · Oct 3, 2014

Mahisse :

Thanks

Mahisse · Oct 3, 2014

You're welcome. Overclock your card for extra perfomance. AMD cards tend to overclock really well. I overclocked my card with +33% perfomance without increasing voltage making it equal to a 7870 = R9 270

oxiide · Oct 3, 2014

Ferrariassassin :

What everyone has been saying throughout this entire thread (including my post that you quoted) was that a PS4 comes nowhere close to a PC's ultra settings on pretty much any game out there. If your goal is ultra details, 1080p and only 30 FPS, the R9 280 should easily do that in virtually any game and still look vastly better than a PS4. If you'd rather play at 60 FPS, you have that option on PC as well via tweaking detail settings.

You don't need to spend "many thousands," the R9 280 is already better than what a PS4 will ever be capable of.

Will my MSI R9-280 be able to run modern games out at the moment on Ultra?

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