Brand new computer for sale, worth it?

Khaled Jiha · Oct 3, 2014

Dear all,
A guy ofered me to sell me this computer to play wow raiding 25 men on ultra setting for the coming..

AED 1000$ : Intel i7 4790-K 4.4 ghz turbo, ASUS Z97 mainboard, 8gb G.Skill memory, 1tb Seagate Barracuda HDD, EVGA GTX 750 Ti 2gb, 600w power supply, DVD-RW, comp.case Cougar Volant,

Tour advice is highly appreciated, knowing that i will over clock the gpu only and the price includes gaming keyboard and mouse, both wireless .
I am located in middle east so i can not build cheap computers parts online .

Karsten75 · Oct 3, 2014

that price is unbelievably good for that computer. And you know what they say ... if it's too good to be true... It isn't true.

Khaled Jiha · Oct 3, 2014

Karsten75 :

He also said it has windows 10 the newly released !!

Entomber · Oct 3, 2014

interesting, that computer is worth at least 2.5x more than the price you're getting it for. You should make sure it functions properly before handing over your money.

Entomber · Oct 3, 2014

Khaled Jiha :

No, Windows 10 is not released. What's been released is a beta version (the tech preview).

Possibly that person installed Windows 10 preview and now has no idea how to revert it. You can just format the HDD and reinstall Windows.

USAFRet · Oct 3, 2014

Khaled Jiha :

Seeing as the Tech Preview has only been available for 2 days.....

Is this something you can touch and see, or it is just online somewhere?

Khaled Jiha · Oct 3, 2014

Entomber :

How do you suggest i do that sir? What should i be checking and how?
So he is right ? It will allow me to raid 25 men with 60 fbs minimum on 25 men heroic ?

Entomber · Oct 3, 2014

that computer would be quite good for WoW, but only if it really had the advertised specs, and only if it was in proper working condition. We suggest that you verify that the computer works properly before paying for it.

So if it's a stranger selling it to you off the Internet, you may have to go check it out in person. Turn it on, try your game, and see if it functions as advertised.

USAFRet · Oct 3, 2014

AED 1000$

What is the actual price here?
$1,000 US, or AED 1,000 ($272 US)

Karsten75 · Oct 3, 2014

Windows 10 is in Enterprise preview. It means you cannot and should not attempt to use it in any production capacity. It will have bugs and the interfaces and device support (as well as possibly drivers) may be lacking at this time.

Ask him to show the computer to you. Make sure it boots up. Verify the components. and capacity or RAM, HDD, etc.

Then buy it, buy a copy of Windows 7 or 8.1 and install it on the computer to get a great computer for less than half the retail value.

Khaled Jiha · Oct 3, 2014

Entomber :

Yes he said i can check it but its imposible i can check my game on it.. Its 50 gb download hehe

Khaled Jiha · Oct 3, 2014

Karsten75 :

So you suggest i turn it on, do 1 restart.. Then go right click my cumputer icon, and check if rams are 8, storage is 1tb , graphic card and everything mentioned is as it is? Thats all it takes to test??

USAFRet · Oct 3, 2014

Khaled Jiha :

If I were spending $1,000 on a potentially used PC, there are multiple other things I'd do:

Take the side panels off and check for dust
Boot and poke around in the BIOS
Boot from a bootable Linux live CD
Probably take my USB stick with multiple testing tools and see what happens. memtest, temperature monitors, drive health tools, etc, etc.

Basically 1/2 price for what is supposed to be 'brand new' raises all sorts of red flags to me.

Khaled Jiha · Oct 3, 2014

USAFRet :

Khaled Jiha :

If I were spending $1,000 on a potentially used PC, there are multiple other things I'd do:

Take the side panels off and check for dust
Boot and poke around in the BIOS
Boot from a bootable Linux live CD
Probably take my USB stick with multiple testing tools and see what happens. memtest, temperature monitors, drive health tools, etc, etc.

Basically 1/2 price for what is supposed to be 'brand new' raises all sorts of red flags to me.

Sadly i don't know what you are talking about, i am not a computer expert .. I am a computer user ,

Karsten75 · Oct 3, 2014

USAFRet :

note that this is ~US$ 272. In a country where component prices are supposedly more expensive than in the US. That's basically <25% of the build cost of those components new.

Yes, red flags abound.

USAFRet · Oct 3, 2014

Khaled Jiha :

Right.

Car analogy:
If you were offered an almost brand new car for 1/2 price, and you didn't feel confident enough in your inspection and mechanic skills to evaluate, what would you do?
Take a skilled, trusted, friend with you to check it out.

Same with this PC

Seeing as it is (or advertised as) brand new, does he have the receipts? .

Khaled Jiha · Oct 3, 2014

Karsten75 :

True, red flags everywhere , and since im not an expert to test it properly .. Shall i pass??
But what wrong can be in such a desktop?

USAFRet · Oct 3, 2014

Khaled Jiha :

Stolen parts.
Mislabeled parts.
Badly overused parts (ex-bitcoin mining rig)
The whole thing fell off the back of the truck...

If the actual 'price' is 1,000 Dirham ($272 US), run. Run away fast.

Khaled Jiha · Oct 3, 2014

USAFRet :

My god , i think i gave wrong info, the price is 1000 $ = 3650 Dirhams
And the guy said its off the box but not used as he said, a french man

Karsten75 · Oct 3, 2014

I'm falling off the truck laughing here. That missing zero lead to a lot of confusion.

THe newer price is much more reasonable. But WIndows 10 is *still* a red flag. Don't get it without getting installation disks for Windows 7 or 8.

USAFRet · Oct 3, 2014

For US prices, pcpartpicker calls it at under $850. Add another $100 for the mouse/keyboard.I don't know what the same parts would cost where you are.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pFJBm

Add in a valid OS in either case.

Khaled Jiha · Oct 3, 2014

Karsten75 :

USAFRet :

This is an Asus computer isn't it?
Well about parts, prices in dubai are hell up .. I hardly managed to make a deal with a shop for the following:
I5 4690 k
R9 280 gpu
Z97-k mpu(k is the lowest in z97)
1 tb
8 kingkston gb ram
212 evo cooling
Corsair psu 750 w bronze
Corsair case 0.3
Windows 8.1

For the cost of 1000$ plus

Advice guyz?
Reminder: i am trying to get a tower to make me raid 25 men on ultra , world of warcraft

USAFRet · Oct 3, 2014

Khaled Jiha :

That was a random selection of equivalent parts (generally choosing the least expensive in each category), not a prebuilt ASUS.

Khaled Jiha · Oct 3, 2014

USAFRet :

I c sir,
Your advice please?

Karsten75 · Oct 3, 2014

Here is my best advice. If you are not, and cannot get someone that is, competent to evaluate that computer, you should probably not buy it. If you can afford to risk the money, then go ahead, there is a chance you've found a decent bargain. If that is so, make sure you can or know how to revert the computer back to Windows 7 or Windows 8.

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