Socket temperature vs Core temperature???

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mohdzarif

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This is when I was running Prime95.

Are both of these temperatures important. I mean, which one is more important than another? I ask this because certain utilities like Core Temp and Corsair Link only show core temp and not socket temp. HWMonitor and HWiNFO show both.

My specs:
CPU: AMD FX-6100 @ 4.2GHz 1.416V
Mobo: ASUS M5A97 R2.0
Cooler: Corsair H80i

According to CPU World, the "max operating temperature" of my CPU is 70C. http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-FX-Series%20FX-6100.html
Is it referring to socket temp or core temp?

I wonder why some softwares like Core Temp and Corsair Link don't show socket temp at all? I tend to believe that it is not really important. So what CPU World says about max temperature is the core temp and not socket temp?

Help me I'm clueless.
 
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MeteorsRaining

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Both are equally important, socket temps are not displayed by many small apps, but comprehensive hardware monitoring softwares always have that. And 70C max is for core temp, socket temps are almost always higher than core, but around 75C on socket is fine. Core temps can be controlled by getting a better cooler. better heatsinks on socket will reduce those temps, but yours seem fine.
 
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mohdzarif

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Thanks for the reply, so this means I've more headroom for OC?

I'm kinda scared and still doubtful tbh. Only one person replied to me now. :p I will wait for others to give me assurance. :p

But if you have some link to comprehensive explanation on this matter, would be really appreciated. :)
 
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unknownofprob

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I would raise the max core temp for 65 to around 75. Got my 4930k running above 70 degrees max @ 4.9Ghz, it's stable and operating within safe temperature limits. Max temp varies from CPU to CPU but all tend to have a common safe limit, that is what we consider to be safe.
 
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MeteorsRaining

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I'm not absolutely sure but 75C is safe for FX?
 
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You have that backwards meteor, case temp(socket temp) is inherently lower than core temps. If it shows to be the opposite, then the software is reading temperatures incorrectly.

When a chip manufacturer states max temperature, they mean case temp, or where the heat spreader meets the top of the cpu. This means core temperature will always be higher.

Try using speedfan for case temps and realremp for core temps, make sure you have the latest version of the software.
 
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MeteorsRaining

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Socket temps equate to CPU temp. "Core Temp" is what AMD refers to as "TCTL" and is a non-physical temperature on an arbitrary scale measured in degrees. It does not represent an actual physical temperature like die or case temperature.

And according to multiple threads (here, here, here and here) and from what I've seen, and perhaps logic, the indvidual core temps should always be lower than socket temps.

Also, Starting with the Phenoms, AMD's digital sensor no longer reports an absolute temperature value anymore, but a reading with a certain offset, which is unknown. It is estimated that this offset is between 10 - 20C. So no matter what program OP uses, the reading will not be perfect.

Core temps are easy to keep low, socket temps are where the heat builds up and usually stops an overclock before the core does. Only real way to keep socket temps down is to put a fan on the back of the MoBo. The socket temp doesn't really have a hard limit, but this can go quite high if your VRM cooling isn't too good while still having a good CPU cooler.
 
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sportsfanboy

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lol here here here here, little fired up? I'm not going to respond, except my knowledge of temperatures come from the author of realtemp. Meaning I have talked to him on an open forum numerous times, in which he responded with good first hand info. And a good member here called Computronix, not sure if he's still around.

Maybe logic isn't my best trait according to a person like your self that acts pretentious on a tech forum.

 
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MeteorsRaining

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I made a statement, and later supported it with multiple proofs and explainations. Never did I say I'm right or you're wrong. I've justified my claim, and yes I can be wrong (along with a bunch of threads), I'm open to correction, but with valid proofs and explainations. As said, attack the idea not the person, thanks :)
 
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