Another $500ish build help needed...

A84Harris · Oct 4, 2014

So I currently have an Asus ROG 750JW as my daily driver gaming computer. Bills are starting to rack up and I need some extra money. My daily driver is going on eBay soon and I'm looking for a viable option for around $500. Most of the use on this computer is gaming (CSGO, Battlefield 3/4, Titanfall), but I also watch movies/tv shows on my laptop as well. Playing CSGO I'm averaging around 100fps maxed out, Battlefield 3/4, I'm noticing around 70-80fps with settings on High. If I'm remember correctly, lol. I'd like a build that will keep close the the same performance. It's been year's since I built my first computer, BFG 7900GTX era, and Core 2 Duo being the big hit. So I don't even know where to start now. I've always been a fanboy of Nvidia/Intel, but I'm willing to look elsewhere for the performance. I'd like a SSD, for the OS (Doesn't need to be included in price), and a secondary hdd for backup, although the secondary can come at a later time. I don't need a monitor, I can make due with what I have. Also, I don't need a mouse, still rocking the Razer Copperhead. Only thing I'll need is a keyboard, I'd like a mechanical one, but it's not a necessity right now. Thanks for anybody and all's input in advance!

GRUxTSAR · Oct 4, 2014

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16868110142

GRUxTSAR · Oct 4, 2014

There is NO WAY you'll have a build with an SSD, OS, HDD, and keyboard for $500 that can run BF4 with 80fps on high settings

A84Harris · Oct 4, 2014

LMAO @ GRUXTSAR. I will admit, that or an Xbox One has crossed my mind. But the wife and I do have a son in home schooled, and she travels for her job. So her laptop would be taken away when she's off for work. I don't need an OS, I'm thinking SteamOS or other ways of acquiring Windows (Family works for Microsoft). I don't HAVE to have a SSD, or BOTH HDD's right off the back. It's just something I want to upgrade to eventually. Same with the performance in regards to FPS. For instance, when I play CSGO, I can run it on max, but I tend to put things on low for personal preference. I don't like the motion blur as well as a couple of other things. Sorry if I didn't state that right from the start.

rockie_ · Oct 4, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($33.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $514.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 23:07 EDT-0400

A84Harris · Oct 4, 2014

Is there any benefit with going with an Intel dual-core processor compared to some of these other builds with an AMD quad-core? Also, I've always been a fan of more ram than needed, so would I be able to bump up to 8gb of ram while keeping the limit no more than $550? $550 is the max the wife would let me go. Damn, I'm sounding whipped as all hell now...

rockie_ · Oct 4, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($33.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $547.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 23:17 EDT-0400

A84Harris · Oct 4, 2014

Alright, good to see I can still stay in budget with more ram. The HDD you have listed would eventually be put as a storage drive, once I can afford the SSD. Looking at benchmarks for the GPU, it's nice to see I can run games at Very High, but I always tend to "dumb down" the graphics so I can have a more constant/smooth playability.

Still curious about the processor. Is that just a personal preference or is there something else I haven't been able to Google? Lol

rockie_ · Oct 4, 2014

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

A84Harris · Oct 4, 2014

Lol, you are quite to the point aren't ya? Thanks for the link, I'll have to look into that in a few.

rockie_ · Oct 4, 2014

i3 4150 has 2 cores and 4 threads . Its single core is superior to FX 6300 . This is very importand for gaming , since mainly 4 threads are used . Even the multicore score is good .

i3 4160 vs FX 6300 , i3 4160 has 100MHz more than i3 4150 - 3.6GHz vs 3.5GHz
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-4160-vs-AMD-FX-6300

A84Harris · Oct 4, 2014

Would dropping down the ram back to 4GB in order to pick up a Radeon R9 280 be a better bet for FPS purposes? Just mean's I'd have to have less programs running in the background (uTorrent, Google Chrome Extensions, etc) That's what I consider "multitasking" lol.

A84Harris · Oct 4, 2014

Ok, that makes sense to me then. I appreciate that.

rockie_ · Oct 4, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($98.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.89 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($33.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $546.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 23:50 EDT-0400

A84Harris · Oct 4, 2014

Ok, so same price with the different processor and mobo. Is that a better option for FPS or were you just showing me? Oh how I wish I would have stayed up to date on all this stuff. It's taken me an hour to do dishes because I keep getting side tracked with this, reviews, benchmarks, other builds.

rockie_ · Oct 5, 2014

A84Harris :

i posted the FX 6300 cus some people would overclock FX 6300 (the mobo has 4+2 phase power design and allows overclocking ) , just to catch up with the cores of i3 4150 but would have 6 cores/threads . Unless you overclock FX 6300 , the rig will be slower in games compared to i3 4150 .

rockie_ · Oct 5, 2014

A84Harris :

R9 280 is faster and has 3GB VRAM but the price rises to $600 . Yesterdayt the prices were lower but now .

A84Harris · Oct 5, 2014

rockie_ :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131570

rockie_ · Oct 5, 2014

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127789&cm_re=r9_280-_-14-127-789-_-Product

i mean the price of the rig gets $600

A84Harris · Oct 5, 2014

You got me there, I'd rather have a brand I know.

A84Harris · Oct 5, 2014

OH!!! Ok, well then ya...I always hate looking too in depth at parts/builds...I start out at $500, then I pushed my max to $550, and now look where we are at...fml.

rockie_ · Oct 5, 2014

R9 270 is really a gaming card . Dont worry .

A84Harris · Oct 5, 2014

If I'm familiar with installing OS's via USB drives, then I SHOULDN'T have to worry about an optical drive...right?! I figure that if anybody want's to watch a movie, I'll already have it via Netflix/Prime, or they can use the wife's laptop. Plus I'm sure I have a couple laying around.

rockie_ · Oct 5, 2014

the rig is with Core i3 .If you prefer FX 6300 , just get the Asus mobo above . The reat parts remain the same .

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.78 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($195.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $566.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 00:43 EDT-0400

A84Harris · Oct 5, 2014

I also noticed there was no selection to CPU cooler, are cheap ones going to give me any issues?

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