Computer freezing and i get fps drops
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Alban Shala
October 5, 2014 3:10:18 AM
Hi! so ive got a big question, So ive had my computer for about 8-9 months now and its been really weird lately it keeps crashing the whole time and it freezes the whole computer like for about 1-2 min like i cant even touch anything neither can i thought or do anything for 1-2 and it happends like 2-3 times a day, and ive gotten fps drops time to time in games like League of legends, counter strike global offensive. Specs
Model AMD Radeon R9 280X
Memory 3072 MB, GDDR5
Connections HDMI, DVI
processor
Model AMD FX-8350
Speed 4.2GHz - Max Turbo
Number of Cores 8 pcs - Octa Core
RAM
Model Corsair Vengeance 8192MB (8GB)
Memory type DDR3 1600MHz
Hard Drive
Size 1000 GB
Connection 7200RPM - 6Gb / s - SATA
Motherboard
Gigabyte Model 970A-DS3P
Sound Card 8-Channel High Definition Audio
Internet 10/100/1000/Mbit Gigabit LAN
USB 2.0 / USB 3.0 6 & 2
Other
Chassis Cooler Master HAF912 - Infinity Edition
Power Supply XFX Core Edition 550W - 85% efficiency - 80PLUS
DVD Burner DVD ± RW Dual-Layer
SSD: 180gb samsung
Cpu cooler: H60 corsair
Model AMD Radeon R9 280X
Memory 3072 MB, GDDR5
Connections HDMI, DVI
processor
Model AMD FX-8350
Speed 4.2GHz - Max Turbo
Number of Cores 8 pcs - Octa Core
RAM
Model Corsair Vengeance 8192MB (8GB)
Memory type DDR3 1600MHz
Hard Drive
Size 1000 GB
Connection 7200RPM - 6Gb / s - SATA
Motherboard
Gigabyte Model 970A-DS3P
Sound Card 8-Channel High Definition Audio
Internet 10/100/1000/Mbit Gigabit LAN
USB 2.0 / USB 3.0 6 & 2
Other
Chassis Cooler Master HAF912 - Infinity Edition
Power Supply XFX Core Edition 550W - 85% efficiency - 80PLUS
DVD Burner DVD ± RW Dual-Layer
SSD: 180gb samsung
Cpu cooler: H60 corsair
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jnewegger23
October 5, 2014 3:14:07 AM
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
Perhaps you need a 600W psu as recommended above. I always recommend getting something a little above required specs as I have countless clients who "get away" with a lesser psu for months or even a year or so and then things like this start to happen. Not worth gambling with destroying other components. I'd spend the money on a quality psu meeting or exceeding recommended minimums.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_280x...
According to guru3d you should have been fine but it perhaps is still the issue. Of course if you can find a cheaper solution go for that but just something to keep in mind as you troubleshoot. Good luck!
Perhaps you need a 600W psu as recommended above. I always recommend getting something a little above required specs as I have countless clients who "get away" with a lesser psu for months or even a year or so and then things like this start to happen. Not worth gambling with destroying other components. I'd spend the money on a quality psu meeting or exceeding recommended minimums.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_r9_280x...
According to guru3d you should have been fine but it perhaps is still the issue. Of course if you can find a cheaper solution go for that but just something to keep in mind as you troubleshoot. Good luck!
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Alban Shala
October 5, 2014 3:16:07 AM
jnewegger23 said:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htmPerhaps you need a 600W psu as recommended above. I always recommend getting something a little above required specs as I have countless clients who "get away" with a lesser psu for months or even a year or so and then things like this start to happen. Not worth gambling with destroying other components. I'd spend the money on a quality psu meeting or exceeding recommended minimums.
Ye so i bought this computer from a store and they said its not needed for more than 550, i even unplugged the dvd to get more for the pc but it doesnt seem to help, ive thought about upgrading to 600 or 650 but idk..
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jnewegger23
October 5, 2014 3:18:07 AM
Alban Shala
October 5, 2014 3:25:09 AM
jnewegger23
October 5, 2014 3:28:20 AM
Alban Shala
October 5, 2014 3:52:40 AM
jnewegger23
October 5, 2014 12:11:58 PM
Alban Shala
October 5, 2014 3:05:33 PM
jnewegger23
October 5, 2014 6:22:59 PM
I would
1: Update Bios
2: Update Drivers
If you've already done that then revert to the last stable driver. If your issues still persists to save money borrow another psu of equal or greater power. If you do not have access to this then replacing the psu is your most likely option to correct the situation.
1: Update Bios
2: Update Drivers
If you've already done that then revert to the last stable driver. If your issues still persists to save money borrow another psu of equal or greater power. If you do not have access to this then replacing the psu is your most likely option to correct the situation.
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sla70r
October 5, 2014 6:43:11 PM
jnewegger23
October 5, 2014 6:51:50 PM
Also, try cleaning your rig thoroughly to remove dust and reseat your heat sink and replace with high grade thermal paste to ensure your cpu is not overheating due to heatsink failure. Perhaps that could be causing shut downs as well. Arctic silver is around $7; clean old thermal paste with alcohol and use a peas sized amount in the center, the concept is you want to use the least amount of past to allow full conductivity across the grease to the copper plate; too much and you lose conductivity, too little and you have no grease to conduct across - thus a small pea sized amount spreads with great contact surface area and only a thin film to do so.
Again, if all of these checks and measures do not improve stability it will most likely be a need for psu replacement and the sooner the better.
Again, if all of these checks and measures do not improve stability it will most likely be a need for psu replacement and the sooner the better.
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Alban Shala
October 6, 2014 4:12:22 AM
jnewegger23 said:
Also, try cleaning your rig thoroughly to remove dust and reseat your heat sink and replace with high grade thermal paste to ensure your cpu is not overheating due to heatsink failure. Perhaps that could be causing shut downs as well. Arctic silver is around $7; clean old thermal paste with alcohol and use a peas sized amount in the center, the concept is you want to use the least amount of past to allow full conductivity across the grease to the copper plate; too much and you lose conductivity, too little and you have no grease to conduct across - thus a small pea sized amount spreads with great contact surface area and only a thin film to do so.Again, if all of these checks and measures do not improve stability it will most likely be a need for psu replacement and the sooner the better.
Idk how to update the bios but ive updated my drivers, and i thought of buying the thermal paste but wanet to make sure what the problem was first :S, ive cleaned my pc from dust etc i even opened cpu cooler, and graphics card and put it in again.
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Alban Shala
October 6, 2014 4:13:13 AM
Vynavill
October 6, 2014 4:42:11 AM
After speeding through everything already written, I think jnewegger's first hunch is the correct one. A thorough cleanup never hurts, not to mention a round of memtest86+, as faulty RAM sticks can cause these freezes too.
However, 550w for that setup is WAAAY too close to the max TDP of that system. Downclocking will be a nice way to test without having to change the PSU; you can downclock the CPU from the bios by lowering either the base clock or the clock multipliers, while you can use tools like MSI Afterburner for the GPU.
In any case, you shouldn't consider investing money in a better PSU a a waste. We're talking about the heart of your system after all, and a good quality PSU now is going to be (without being extremely unlucky) a good PSU in 4-6 years...
However, 550w for that setup is WAAAY too close to the max TDP of that system. Downclocking will be a nice way to test without having to change the PSU; you can downclock the CPU from the bios by lowering either the base clock or the clock multipliers, while you can use tools like MSI Afterburner for the GPU.
In any case, you shouldn't consider investing money in a better PSU a a waste. We're talking about the heart of your system after all, and a good quality PSU now is going to be (without being extremely unlucky) a good PSU in 4-6 years...
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Alban Shala
October 6, 2014 4:47:18 AM
Vynavill said:
After speeding through everything already written, I think jnewegger's first hunch is the correct one. A thorough cleanup never hurts, not to mention a round of memtest86+, as faulty RAM sticks can cause these freezes too.However, 550w for that setup is WAAAY too close to the max TDP of that system. Downclocking will be a nice way to test without having to change the PSU; you can downclock the CPU from the bios by lowering either the base clock or the clock multipliers, while you can use tools like MSI Afterburner for the GPU.
In any case, you shouldn't consider investing money in a better PSU a a waste. We're talking about the heart of your system after all, and a good quality PSU now is going to be (without being extremely unlucky) a good PSU in 4-6 years...
i have downclocked my gpu but i havnt downclocked my cpu yet and its my birthday soon so i might have enough money to buy a psu, but idk what to buy tho, ive though of 750w Corsair CX 750M, 750W PSU but not sure yet i might upgrade grpahic in the future
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Vynavill
October 6, 2014 5:58:21 AM
If you don't know what to choose, this list might come in handy.
Tom's Hardware - Power supply unit tier list
Keep in mind that, should you decide to stay as you are, a 600-650W will be enough; should you however want to crossfire, with another 280x you'll need something close to 900W. Plan accordingly, and choose a PSU from either Tier 1, Tier 2 class A or Tier 2 class B. Tier three is not recommended, but still viable if you.don't plan on overclocking, and lower than tier 4 is not recommended at all.
Tom's Hardware - Power supply unit tier list
Keep in mind that, should you decide to stay as you are, a 600-650W will be enough; should you however want to crossfire, with another 280x you'll need something close to 900W. Plan accordingly, and choose a PSU from either Tier 1, Tier 2 class A or Tier 2 class B. Tier three is not recommended, but still viable if you.don't plan on overclocking, and lower than tier 4 is not recommended at all.
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Alban Shala
October 6, 2014 6:04:43 AM
Vynavill said:
If you don't know what to choose, this list might come in handy.Tom's Hardware - Power supply unit tier list
Keep in mind that, should you decide to stay as you are, a 600-650W will be enough; should you however want to crossfire, with another 280x you'll need something close to 900W. Plan accordingly, and choose a PSU from either Tier 1, Tier 2 class A or Tier 2 class B. Tier three is not recommended, but still viable if you.don't plan on overclocking, and lower than tier 4 is not recommended at all.
would u recommend this psu, cuz i need to make my pc more cleared from cables n stuff??'
Corsair CX 750M, 750W PSU
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Vynavill
October 6, 2014 6:59:47 AM
No, I wouldn't. Corsair CX series are known to be built with lower quality components, while still being decent enough PSUs. I would recommend them on extremely strict budget and "no overclocking AT ALL" configurations.
Also, modular or non modular will achieve the same result if cables are handled correctly, but if you really want to go modular, a good one would be the one I'm using (check my signature), or something from SeaSonic if you can afford it.
Also, modular or non modular will achieve the same result if cables are handled correctly, but if you really want to go modular, a good one would be the one I'm using (check my signature), or something from SeaSonic if you can afford it.
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sla70r
October 6, 2014 8:33:56 AM
Vynavill
October 6, 2014 9:12:39 AM
@Sla70r
Wouldn't heat just cause throttling (or shutdown in an extreme case) rather than freeze everything for a couple minutes?
And anyways, he has those freezes with games like LoL and CS:GO with a 280x/8350 combo...the only way for them to heat up with those games is by playing the games vsync off with a family of dust bunnies inhabiting the heatsinks...
Wouldn't heat just cause throttling (or shutdown in an extreme case) rather than freeze everything for a couple minutes?
And anyways, he has those freezes with games like LoL and CS:GO with a 280x/8350 combo...the only way for them to heat up with those games is by playing the games vsync off with a family of dust bunnies inhabiting the heatsinks...
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sla70r
October 6, 2014 11:22:43 AM
jnewegger23
October 6, 2014 1:16:07 PM
Updating the bios is as simple as going to your motherboard's manufacturer's website and looking up the model of mobo + your OS. download file to usb and flash the bios. There are many vids out there on youtube to show you step by step if you prefer; may not be your exact mobo but find one with same bios and you are set. I don't believe this will exonerate you from this problem but again since you want to save money if it works on the off chance by being more compatible with the latest drivers then that may give you the stability you seek without spending money but as others have agreed upgrading your psu would be a wise choice both for now and for later needs and I believe is the most likely candidate to resolve your issue albeit it's not a "free" solution.
In summary, although you may have the latest drivers, if your bios is out of date and thus not compatible this can help increase instability which you are experiencing. Since money is an issue I'd spend the 10min figuring this out if I were you before buying a new psu and even if you are decided on getting a new psu this is still a step I recommend you do first. You were smart enough to put this build together, you are smart enough to learn how to update the bios with just a little effort on your part. You can do it. Now "get er done!"
In summary, although you may have the latest drivers, if your bios is out of date and thus not compatible this can help increase instability which you are experiencing. Since money is an issue I'd spend the 10min figuring this out if I were you before buying a new psu and even if you are decided on getting a new psu this is still a step I recommend you do first. You were smart enough to put this build together, you are smart enough to learn how to update the bios with just a little effort on your part. You can do it. Now "get er done!"
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Alban Shala
October 6, 2014 2:51:10 PM
this is me playing csgo for abt 1 hr
http://gyazo.com/fbc87bb979881b0f53df909b000a4446
http://gyazo.com/c84e79e8a191d04a0ec152cb04a6d2a9
http://gyazo.com/fbc87bb979881b0f53df909b000a4446
http://gyazo.com/c84e79e8a191d04a0ec152cb04a6d2a9
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how do i do that? ive not overclocked