First build - last some years without changes

Limroto · Oct 5, 2014

Hello Tom'sers

I'm making my first build and I'm reusing my existing EVO 840 ssd and my 8 GB ram (1333 MHz) from my current machine.

The build looks as this:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Limro/saved/fz4Zxr

Do I have enough power?
When I simulate it on different websites it states it need 'bout 380W and +25% is recommended. I take 500W is enough then?

Is that an awful water cooler?
I have never had water cooling before so I looked a bit around. Is it ok?

What do you think of the build?
I'm in no need of multi screen game setup and if the new games run in 'High' instead of 'Ultra' I'm cool with that too.

EDIT:
Do I need to buy paste? Or something else?

viewtyjoe · Oct 5, 2014

The water cooling block doesn't really make sense, since your processor isn't really overclockable.

Skylarz · Oct 5, 2014

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($225.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($81.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($269.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $682.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 15:29 EDT-0400

Limroto · Oct 5, 2014

viewtyjoe :

So water cooling is only for overclocking?

Lutfij · Oct 5, 2014

Option 1:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.49 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85N PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 285 2GB ITX COMPACT OC Video Card ($265.38 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($68.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $582.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 17:50 EDT-0400
^ given you already have 1333MHz I'm assuming that they are non overclocking modules and thus would be worthless in an overclocking environment.

Option 2:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85N PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 4GB Dual-X Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF Stacker 915F Mini ITX Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $577.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 18:11 EDT-0400
^ idea for an aftermarket cooler discarded since we aren't going to be overclocking on any level except for improving temperatures in which case just add $30 to option 2

DonkeyOatie · Oct 5, 2014

Aftermarket coolers are mostly used:

To replace weak stock coolers on hot CPUs (or in very hot cases, say with overclocked GPUs)

To replace loud stock coolers

To replace stock coolers on overclocked CPUs which thus exceed the stock capability.

Since none of these apply, you probably do not need anything beyond stock.

Limroto · Oct 6, 2014

I have decided on a build. I have included a ssd and the ram I already have:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($177.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B85I Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($83.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($222.98 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($68.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Cooler Master i500 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($92.59 @ Amazon)
Total: $864.50
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 12:37 EDT-0400

And a side note (I should have mentioned that in #0 post):
- I love the BitFenix Prodigy case and will not buy something without it.
- I do not feel like overclocking (a bit afraid of it crashing and burning up in flames).

DonkeyOatie · Oct 6, 2014

I'd be happy with that.

tiny voices · Oct 6, 2014

Limroto :

I have decided on a build. I have included a ssd and the ram I already have:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($177.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B85I Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($83.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($222.98 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($68.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Cooler Master i500 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($92.59 @ Amazon)
Total: $864.50
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 12:37 EDT-0400

And a side note (I should have mentioned that in #0 post):
- I love the BitFenix Prodigy case and will not buy something without it.
- I do not feel like overclocking (a bit afraid of it crashing and burning up in flames).

Don't buy that PSU. get the XFX550 posted earlier. MUCH better unit.

Limroto · Oct 6, 2014

tiny voices :

How is it better?
I see 550W instead of 500 - that's not so bad.
Anything else?

DonkeyOatie · Oct 6, 2014

The quality of the innards (cheap vs good) and the reputation of the manufacturer (truth in advertising and.products where 470W is a model number, not a power supply rating)

tiny voices · Oct 6, 2014

The XFx uses 100% better quality internals than the Coolermaster. That Coolermaster is junk to be honest. Pretty low quality.

Limroto · Oct 6, 2014

Looks like I have to replace that on the order list - thanks a lot!

tiny voices · Oct 6, 2014

Always glad to help.

The PSU is 100000% the most important part of a PC. It is often overlooked and people end up paying the price.

Limroto · Oct 6, 2014

tiny voices :

Yes I read that multiple places. However I think it's hard to find a good place to
compare the PSUs

Lutfij · Oct 6, 2014

Since you are more interested in informed posts that help you decide on changing up your components in your list, you'd find it in your best interests to read up on this thread:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html
^ it is a bit dated but has almost every unit on the market.

Speaking from personal experience, my brother in law used the i500 and it indeed is a piece of paper weight that is over charged for its capacity merely due to the brand sticker!

Limroto · Oct 6, 2014

Lutfij :

I can see the XFX Core rates much higher - thanks a lot!

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