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I need answers as to if this new desktop would run Total War: Rome II properly, mainly on graphics and CPU.

Hey everyone,

For years I've been gaming on my laptop but I'm considering buying a (cheap-ish) PC now for higher end games. Mostly I want to be able to play Rome II: Total War. Here are the (recommended) system specs (http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Rome_II_Recommended_Specs) :

?OS: Windows 7 / Windows 8
?Processor:2nd Generation Intel Core i5 processor (or greater)
?Memory: 4GB RAM
?Graphics:1024 MB DirectX 11 compatible graphics card.
?DirectX®:11
?Hard Drive:35 GB HD space
?Screen Resolution: 1920x1080

My question is: can I run this properly on a ''HP Pavilion 500-225eb? Link for specs: http://www.vergelijk.nl/desktop/hp/pavilion_500_225eb/specs.rhtml
Sorry that the site is in Dutch, but I think most of you can understand what it means by the specs, or you can translate into English. For some reason I couldn't google for English sites.

Thanks a lot in advance,

Mathijs
 
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HD4400 is not a graphics card, it is integrated graphics that shares resources with the CPU, that is why it performs so badly in ANY games.
ALL mainstream Intel CPUs come with this integrated...
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Yes, this PC does have R7 240.

As for my budget: I am looking for around €400-€600,-. I am quite limited in my budget but I am sure I can get something decent in this range. I do not have a certain retailer or website I have to purchase from; I can purchase from where-ever I want.

What do you mean by prebuild, though? Because if I understand correctly and you mean building my own PC: I'd probably blow up my room trying to build my own PC, as I am very, very incompetent and inexperienced in the technical field.

Do you guys have any other recommendations, then? I would really prefer to stick with around €500,- as price. I don't know if I can build an OK desktop for that price, and if I am even capable of doing so.
 
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500Quid is not a lot, but you its doable. Definitely can get better than that machine you chose.

Building a PC REALLY is not difficult. Its like Lego, but being more careful, there are numerous guides that you can use. Among the best is the TechReport one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea_bs5G1yYU

As for the actual components.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor (£84.16 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£57.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£18.97 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£274.99 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£36.35 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£43.76 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £581.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 10:48 BST+0100

Now this is a little over budget. BUT very much worth it to get the GTX 970.

If this is too high, you can drop the cost to the below. But lose quite a bit of graphics performance.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor (£84.16 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£57.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£18.97 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card (£149.71 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£36.35 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£43.76 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £455.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 10:50 BST+0100
 
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Thanks a LOT for that detailed answer, that helps a lot. My only problem with that is that (from what I understood) most/many intel CPU's have troubles running Rome II in particular. Any thoughts on that?

Extra question: For a mid-range gaming pc, would it be cheaper to buy or build one?
 
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If you can stick two Lego bricks together without causing a Thermonuclear meltdown, you can build a PC. I've been giving out this video based guide to people for a year now, mostly to people like yourself who had no faith in themselves, and every single one of them came back and said that by following the video they had successfully managed to build a computer, so here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_7MbLxKRC4

It is always, always better to build your own PC than to buy one from people like HP or Dell. They will put very low quality, low price components and then charge the customer at least 40% more than it is worth. You will never, ever get a prebuilt computer that is as good as one you can build yourself.
 
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Intel CPU run Rome 2 A LOT better than AMD CPUs, the important thing is just to get a modern high MHz performer.
An I5 would be MUCH better, but that is out of your budget and would add at least 110$ to the price.
 
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Thank you, so would an Intel CPU from about same price-range perform better than the AMD one I linked? For example:

Intel HD Graphics 4400 for graphic card and
Intel Dual Core i3-4150 3.5 Ghz processor

Run better than the ones I previously linked?


EDIT:
According to this site http://www.notebookcheck.net/Total-War-Rome-II-Benchmarked.101446.0.html
The Intel Graphic cards experience huge troubles with Rome II (including the Intel HD Graphics 4400). So can I conclude that Intel Graphics card are worse, and Intel CPU's are better?
 
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HD4400 is not a graphics card, it is integrated graphics that shares resources with the CPU, that is why it performs so badly in ANY games.
ALL mainstream Intel CPUs come with this integrated graphics HD2/3/4xxx series for people that do not want to game but need SOME sort of graphics output, that is why I suggest the Nvidia Graphics card on top of the HD4400, the Nvidia GTX970/GTX760.


Remeber for PCsn the below is relevant :

Intel makes CPUs ONLY.
Nvidia makes graphics cards ONLY. (no connection to Intel AT ALL)
AMD makes CPUs and GPUs.


The PC you linked has a SUB PAR AMD CPU that has better integrated graphics than the HD4400, but it uses a also very sub par R7 240 graphics card.

BOTH of the builds I linked are better in EVERY way to the one you linked, ALOT better in both graphics and CPU.
 
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Thank you, with that my question is basicly answered. Thanks for all your input, you can look forward to me posting another thread in a bit, asking if the PC i put together would be any good. Once again thanks!
 
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