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Is the MSI 970 Gaming a good motherboard for FX 8320?

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October 6, 2014 5:05:26 AM

I am going to be getting an FX 8320 with a Hyper 212 EVO, MSI 970 Gaming board and an MSI GTX 970. Just wondering how this board is for those components.

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October 6, 2014 5:19:42 AM

Try and avoid MSI mobos at all costs , Get Gigabyte 970 UD3P
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October 6, 2014 5:21:50 AM

TopLuca said:
Try and avoid MSI mobos at all costs , Get Gigabyte 970 UD3P


What's the reason for this? First person that has warned me..
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October 6, 2014 5:26:13 AM

TopLuca said:
Try and avoid MSI mobos at all costs , Get Gigabyte 970 UD3P


Also that motherboard doesn't have SLI support for further down the line.
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October 6, 2014 5:28:37 AM

MSI boards for AMD have been known to be a fire hazard. Get an Asus or Gigabyte board.
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October 6, 2014 5:30:02 AM

Well This has SLI Support :

Gigabyte
GA-990FXA-UD3

Well MSI just have a higher failure rate than Gigabyte that's why they're risky.
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October 6, 2014 5:42:40 AM

TopLuca said:
Well This has SLI Support :

Gigabyte
GA-990FXA-UD3

Well MSI just have a higher failure rate than Gigabyte that's why they're risky.


That's a pity because the MSI 970 is such a beautiful motherboard. Is the ASRock EXTREME4 any good for my build? I am only going to be overclocking the FX 8320 to around 4.4Ghz depending on how the chip runs it. ALso the GPU to around 1500Ghz.
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October 6, 2014 5:43:53 AM

TopLuca said:
Well This has SLI Support :

Gigabyte
GA-990FXA-UD3

Well MSI just have a higher failure rate than Gigabyte that's why they're risky.


Also I can't afford anything more than £70 on the motherboard so I can't.
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October 6, 2014 5:50:13 AM

Well this is Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 is just 9 Pounds over your budget and its really worth every penny , it also has SLI support.
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October 6, 2014 6:48:23 AM

TopLuca said:
Well this is Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 is just 9 Pounds over your budget and its really worth every penny , it also has SLI support.


I am already £150 over budget so... I will check it out though.
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October 6, 2014 6:50:16 AM

carterdarter said:
TopLuca said:
Well this is Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 is just 9 Pounds over your budget and its really worth every penny , it also has SLI support.


I am already £150 over budget so... I will check it out though.


Well can you post your budget and we'll make u a build thats not too much over it ( deffo not 150 Pounds over :D  )
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October 6, 2014 6:57:11 AM

TopLuca said:
carterdarter said:
TopLuca said:
Well this is Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 is just 9 Pounds over your budget and its really worth every penny , it also has SLI support.


I am already £150 over budget so... I will check it out though.


Well can you post your budget and we'll make u a build thats not too much over it ( deffo not 150 Pounds over :D  )


Budget was meant to be £500 but I want a computer that will last so I am think around £600. I definitely want an msi gtx 970.

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October 6, 2014 7:04:27 AM

Not too much over budget , Yes the GTX 970 is better than the 290 but by a very small margin and probably not worth the extra 55 Pounds , I'd spend those towards an SSD maybe .
Your build didn't include HDD too so I added one.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/M4TByc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/M4TByc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.74 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£57.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card (£223.19 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Cooler Master K280 ATX Mid Tower Case (£31.33 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£43.76 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £588.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 15:02 BST+0100
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October 6, 2014 7:06:39 AM

TopLuca said:
Not too much over budget , Yes the GTX 970 is better than the 290 but by a very small margin and probably not worth the extra 55 Pounds , I'd spend those towards an SSD maybe .
Your build didn't include HDD too so I added one.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/M4TByc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/M4TByc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.74 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£57.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.94 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card (£223.19 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Cooler Master K280 ATX Mid Tower Case (£31.33 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£43.76 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £588.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 15:02 BST+0100


I wanted to keep the case, I already have a good enough SSD and HDD in my current build also I have watched plenty of reviews and the 970 uses less electricity and stays much cooler thus lasting longer. I also prefer the nvidia features.
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October 6, 2014 7:07:52 AM

Also I wanted an atx motherboard and would prefer a decent amd route if possible.
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October 6, 2014 7:13:29 AM

If you don't mind emptying your pockets then yeah go for the 970 , What makes people so mad about the 970 is that packs a punch while maintaining a low price and doesn't seem like that in the UK , yeah it consumes less power and yes its cooler but its about 24% more expensive than the 290 in the UK .

I was talking about the MSI GTX 970 , refrain from the EVGA ACX cooler as its mis-aligned.

It doesn't last longer , cards are designed to run safer at a certain temperature . AMD Cards run hotter but they last as long as Nvidia cards so the temps should only affect you if you want something that's cool not something that lasts longer.

The question here lies within how much money are you willing to spend and is the 970 ~25% faster than the 290 ?

Long story short , its not and if you have the required PSU already to run the 290 then uses less electricity should be less of a concern.

The 970 is better but in your case I'd get the 290 however still its down to you to choose whether to empty your pockets or go budget friendly for slightly less performance :) 
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October 6, 2014 7:19:30 AM

TopLuca said:
If you don't mind emptying your pockets then yeah go for the 970 , What makes people so mad about the 970 is that packs a punch while maintaining a low price and doesn't seem like that in the UK , yeah it consumes less power and yes its cooler but its about 24% more expensive than the 290 in the UK .

I was talking about the MSI GTX 970 , refrain from the EVGA ACX cooler as its mis-aligned.

It doesn't last longer , cards are designed to run safer at a certain temperature . AMD Cards run hotter but they last as long as Nvidia cards so the temps should only affect you if you want something that's cool not something that lasts longer.

I get that AMD are better, but I really like NONE of AMDs features. Nvidia either already has it, had it first or AMD doesn't even have it. Plus the MSI 970 cooler is an amazing piece of technology and I almost want it just for that.

The question here lies within how much money are you willing to spend and is the 970 ~25% faster than the 290 ?

Long story short , its not and if you have the required PSU already to run the 290 then uses less electricity should be less of a concern.

The 970 is better but in your case I'd get the 290 however still its down to you to choose whether to empty your pockets or go budget friendly for slightly less performance :) 


I would agree that AMD has better price to performance but I MUCH prefer Nvidia features as there is almost no AMD features I like. Also the MSI Twin Frozr V is such an amazing cooler.
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October 6, 2014 7:23:04 AM

This is a full ATX mobo : Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£55.99 @ Amazon UK) , less quality than Gigabyte which I highly recommend but hey its your money .

I won't recommend going AMD's way if gaming is your concern and here's why .



even the new 8370 OC to 4.2 Ghz can't keep up with the i3 in a on older game with a high end card.



Its less of a concern however with a budget friendly mid ranged card ( 270X )





Again same applies to BF4 and if you're curious Bioshock infinite and Metro LL are among the list .

In conclusion : You shouldn't pair the AMD cpus with anything higher than a 280X because you'll experience a bottleneck of about 5-15% depending on the game.

That's tom's experts conclusion : Depending on the game in question, AMD’s new processor has the potential to keep you happy around the AMD Radeon R9 270X/285 or Nvidia GeForce GTX 760 or 660 Ti level.

A higher- or even high-end graphics card doesn’t make sense, as pairing it with AMD's FX-8370E simply limits the card's potential.


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October 6, 2014 7:30:59 AM

TopLuca said:
This is a full ATX mobo : Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£55.99 @ Amazon UK) , less quality than Gigabyte which I highly recommend but hey its your money .

I won't recommend going AMD's way if gaming is your concern and here's why .



even the new 8370 OC to 4.2 Ghz can't keep up with the i3 in a on older game with a high end card.



Its less of a concern however with a budget friendly mid ranged card ( 270X )





Again same applies to BF4 and if you're curious Bioshock infinite and Metro LL are among the list .

In conclusion : You shouldn't pair the AMD cpus with anything higher than a 280X because you'll experience a bottleneck of about 5-15% depending on the game.

That's tom's experts conclusion : Depending on the game in question, AMD’s new processor has the potential to keep you happy around the AMD Radeon R9 270X/285 or Nvidia GeForce GTX 760 or 660 Ti level.

A higher- or even high-end graphics card doesn’t make sense, as pairing it with AMD's FX-8370E simply limits the card's potential.




Ok well help me with a build for the 970 down the intel route. Thank you by the way.
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October 6, 2014 7:32:27 AM

Try to keep the budget in and around £600 (above if absolutely neccesary), Corsair 230T, preferably an overclockable cpu as I would like to learn how to overclock, no ssd or hdd as I already have them, 8gb ram and the msi gtx 970. Thanks!
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October 6, 2014 7:37:38 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/LrjyLk
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/LrjyLk/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£131.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£64.74 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£57.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (£259.87 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£42.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.38 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £592.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 15:38 BST+0100

This is what I'd do , overclockable CPU will raise the budget about 100 more pounds and I think we're already stretched enough.

Your always welcome sir.
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October 6, 2014 7:42:14 AM

Great this means another full week of research down the drain. Yayyyy...........
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October 6, 2014 7:47:48 AM

carterdarter said:
Great this means another full week of research down the drain. Yayyyy...........


It would have helped in the long run :D 
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October 6, 2014 7:48:31 AM

lol -- for me its looking up gpu's so many to chose from and I never can decide one just one so it comes down to a flip of the coin or just get tired of looking and through one in the cart and be happy
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October 6, 2014 7:52:56 AM

junkeymonkey said:
lol -- for me its looking up gpu's so many to chose from and I never can decide one just one so it comes down to a flip of the coin or just get tired of looking and through one in the cart and be happy


well I was in the same boot as our friend here but the 290 was about 100 bucks cheaper so I got it
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October 6, 2014 8:25:27 AM

ya - I been looking at the new gtx 970 seems hard to beat for 350 bucks and looks to be slightly better then the amd offerings [???]

I thought this is what this op was wanting to know when I first came to this thread
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October 6, 2014 8:26:57 AM

TopLuca said:
junkeymonkey said:
lol -- for me its looking up gpu's so many to chose from and I never can decide one just one so it comes down to a flip of the coin or just get tired of looking and through one in the cart and be happy


well I was in the same boot as our friend here but the 290 was about 100 bucks cheaper so I got it


It is extremely annoying the fact my build could be about £100 cheaper if I lived in America. Screw you UK.
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October 6, 2014 8:27:55 AM

carterdarter said:
TopLuca said:
junkeymonkey said:
lol -- for me its looking up gpu's so many to chose from and I never can decide one just one so it comes down to a flip of the coin or just get tired of looking and through one in the cart and be happy


well I was in the same boot as our friend here but the 290 was about 100 bucks cheaper so I got it


It is extremely annoying the fact my build could be about £100 cheaper if I lived in America. Screw you UK.


Could have been 250 pounds more expensive if you lived in Egypt , always look to the bright side.
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October 6, 2014 8:29:08 AM

@TopLuca I think I might still just go with my initial build but change the motherboard to a more reliable one. Could you edit to a better motherboard? If not to my tast, I may just stay with the MSI Gaming as it looks like a great board to me.
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October 6, 2014 8:30:17 AM

just goes to show who got all the money and can afford to pay a higher price for things us poor americans cant pay for things like you folks can at high prices
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October 6, 2014 8:31:19 AM

junkeymonkey said:
just goes to show who got all the money and can afford to pay a higher price for things us poor americans cant pay for things like you folks can at high prices


That's not it at all it is simply because America can afford to order many more products to America as it has such a high population thus increasing stock and thus needing them to sell faster.
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October 6, 2014 8:34:21 AM

If you go with your initial build then you'll get less framerates with the GTX 970 and pay more to get less , sure its your money.

Go with MSI Gaming if you like it , if it failed then order another one. Life is simple , eh ?
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October 6, 2014 8:40:28 AM

TopLuca said:
If you go with your initial build then you'll get less framerates with the GTX 970 and pay more to get less , sure its your money.

Go with MSI Gaming if you like it , if it failed then order another one. Life is simple , eh ?


I have also done my research and multiple people have said there is little difference. No offence but I will trust the majority. Please don't be offended I am just using instincts.
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October 6, 2014 8:40:58 AM

could be .. just seems it would be hard to sell something to you at a higher price if you can pay for it and stay in business prices need to meet the income and what they feel you can afford to pay cause if I cant meet your ability to pay I don't sell and go broke , right??
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October 6, 2014 8:45:49 AM

carterdarter said:
TopLuca said:
If you go with your initial build then you'll get less framerates with the GTX 970 and pay more to get less , sure its your money.

Go with MSI Gaming if you like it , if it failed then order another one. Life is simple , eh ?


I have also done my research and multiple people have said there is little difference. No offence but I will trust the majority. Please don't be offended I am just using instincts.


well I provided benchmarks to support my cause , Its better to start another thread comparing directly the i5-4460 Vs 8320 for gaming purposes and see the responses .

Don't worry I don't feel offended :) 
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October 6, 2014 11:10:31 AM

LOL at the FX-8370 bottlenecking the R9-295x2 and the i7-4790k pwning the i5-4690k in Battlefield 4!!:lol: 
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October 6, 2014 11:11:42 AM

Joseph DeGarmo said:
LOL at the FX-8370 bottlenecking the R9-295x2 and the i7-4790k pwning the i5-4690k in Battlefield 4!!:lol: 


Well i'm not looking to spend THAT much money on my graphics card so lol
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October 6, 2014 5:37:37 PM

The GTX 970 will out perform the 290X , its still considered a lot.
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October 6, 2014 7:14:25 PM

GTX970 review http://www.techspot.com/review/885-nvidia-geforce-gtx-9...
MSI 970 Gaming MB review http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/08/21/msi-970-gam...

So if you want to buy a fx 8 series cpu you need a good MB with at least 6 power phase ( or VRMs) like MSI 970 Gaming, Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0, Asus M5A97 R2.0, or Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P, so the fx8 can run stable with the MB, otherwise you may run the PC fine for while, but may not for long period.

There is not much difference in performances between the non-K i5 and fx8320, they are similar in most games.
Watch Dogs http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/watch-dogs-pc-perfo...
Metro 2033 Redux http://www.techspot.com/review/878-metro-redux-benchmar...
Only the prices are different, AMD has lower price, that means AMD has the best price / performance ratio. So you do the good job and pick the good components for your PC.
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October 6, 2014 7:22:41 PM

The FX 8350/8320 is great when the GPU is taking on most of the work.




You can see that it does pretty well against even a Core i7 CPU in some cases. But in some games the FX 8350/20 is going to be a bottleneck and even overclocking won't help much.





I would say to go ahead and get the GTX 970 because in most games your graphics card will be doing all the heavy lifting. That said, be aware that some games won't run as well on your AMD system as they would on an Intel system but looking at the graphs you can see that even when the FX 8350 is the bottleneck the games are still perfectly playable.
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October 6, 2014 7:23:19 PM

cin19 said:
GTX970 review http://www.techspot.com/review/885-nvidia-geforce-gtx-9...
MSI 970 Gaming MB review http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/08/21/msi-970-gam...

So if you want to buy a fx 8 series cpu you need a good MB with at least 6 power phase ( or VRMs) like MSI 970 Gaming, Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0, Asus M5A97 R2.0, or Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P, so the fx8 can run stable with the MB, otherwise you may run the PC fine for while, but may not for long period.

There is not much difference in performances between the non-K i5 and fx8320, they are similar in most games.
Watch Dogs http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/watch-dogs-pc-perfo...
Metro 2033 Redux http://www.techspot.com/review/878-metro-redux-benchmar...
Only the prices are different, AMD has lower price, that means AMD has the best price / performance ratio. So you do the good job and pick the good components for your PC.


Actually in the UK the intel i5 non K will cost about 20 pounds less than the AMD system so take that into consideration.
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October 6, 2014 11:07:47 PM

TopLuca said:
cin19 said:
GTX970 review http://www.techspot.com/review/885-nvidia-geforce-gtx-9...
MSI 970 Gaming MB review http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/08/21/msi-970-gam...

So if you want to buy a fx 8 series cpu you need a good MB with at least 6 power phase ( or VRMs) like MSI 970 Gaming, Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0, Asus M5A97 R2.0, or Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P, so the fx8 can run stable with the MB, otherwise you may run the PC fine for while, but may not for long period.

There is not much difference in performances between the non-K i5 and fx8320, they are similar in most games.
Watch Dogs http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/watch-dogs-pc-perfo...
Metro 2033 Redux http://www.techspot.com/review/878-metro-redux-benchmar...
Only the prices are different, AMD has lower price, that means AMD has the best price / performance ratio. So you do the good job and pick the good components for your PC.


Actually in the UK the intel i5 non K will cost about 20 pounds less than the AMD system so take that into consideration.


But then you need to take in to consideration of getting the right motherboard and stuff. Also I am starting YouTube so I need those 8 cores for rendering. And another thing is I am only gaming in 900p so will that further increase the bottleneck or lessen the effect?
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October 6, 2014 11:31:12 PM

Gigabyte 970a-ud3p mate seriously for a 8320.
Its THE best 970 series board around IMO.
Done a dozen or so builds with it ,the power phasing & vrm cooling is excellent - 4.4ghz is easily achievable on a 8320 with a 212 evo - use the same combo myself.
Less than £70 from amazon at the moment & a very very good buy.

Regarding bottlenecks - lower res=more bottleneck in a badly balanced build.
Is the 970 overpowered for a 8320??
Maybe a little IMO - run the CPU at 4/4.1ghz though & I doubt you'd notice - will do 60fps ultra on any game out there no doubt at all.
I know the sheer power & futureproifing of the 970 is tempting but have you considered a r9 280x at all - they're like £160 odd nowadays, should stomp all games at 900p & will allow you to budget a ssd in there which nowadays is essential to me.
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October 7, 2014 1:32:05 AM

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Gigabyte 970a-ud3p mate seriously for a 8320.
Its THE best 970 series board around IMO.
Done a dozen or so builds with it ,the power phasing & vrm cooling is excellent - 4.4ghz is easily achievable on a 8320 with a 212 evo - use the same combo myself.
Less than £70 from amazon at the moment & a very very good buy.

Regarding bottlenecks - lower res=more bottleneck in a badly balanced build.
Is the 970 overpowered for a 8320??
Maybe a little IMO - run the CPU at 4/4.1ghz though & I doubt you'd notice - will do 60fps ultra on any game out there no doubt at all.
I know the sheer power & futureproifing of the 970 is tempting but have you considered a r9 280x at all - they're like £160 odd nowadays, should stomp all games at 900p & will allow you to budget a ssd in there which nowadays is essential to me.


A, I already have an SSD B, I considered the r9 280x initially for a long time but then Nvidia lured me in with their features and that beautiful Twin Frozr V lured me in too.
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October 7, 2014 2:06:52 AM

Fair play mate ;-) if the gtx 970 is in budget then go for it - I run a 280x & did actually order the MSI 970 from overclockers - they stuffed my order up then offered me the Galax 970 (it does look decent ) for £240 - I jumped on it then that order got messed up (delivered to my amazon collect+ point who refused delivery).
I took this as fate & cancelled the order :-(
I'm fairly happy with my 280x performance wise - just I'm running it in a Silverstone htpc case which is cramped & I wanted to get temps & power draw down a little.
Go with the gigabyte ud3p board though mate if you haven't ordered yet - its now 65 quid from amazon & is an absolute bargain - the 8+2 phasing makes it a superb oc'ing board.
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October 7, 2014 4:21:04 AM

madmatt30 said:
Fair play mate ;-) if the gtx 970 is in budget then go for it - I run a 280x & did actually order the MSI 970 from overclockers - they stuffed my order up then offered me the Galax 970 (it does look decent ) for £240 - I jumped on it then that order got messed up (delivered to my amazon collect+ point who refused delivery).
I took this as fate & cancelled the order :-(
I'm fairly happy with my 280x performance wise - just I'm running it in a Silverstone htpc case which is cramped & I wanted to get temps & power draw down a little.
Go with the gigabyte ud3p board though mate if you haven't ordered yet - its now 65 quid from amazon & is an absolute bargain - the 8+2 phasing makes it a superb oc'ing board.


Nah dude this msi board fits my colour needs, has better ports and a beautiful bios. In my opinion, the MSI board is better. Also I am not looking to do intricate overclocking, simply core clock overclocking like my cpus clock and gpus core clock. Nothing more intricate than that.
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October 7, 2014 4:28:21 AM

madmatt30 said:
Fair play mate ;-) if the gtx 970 is in budget then go for it - I run a 280x & did actually order the MSI 970 from overclockers - they stuffed my order up then offered me the Galax 970 (it does look decent ) for £240 - I jumped on it then that order got messed up (delivered to my amazon collect+ point who refused delivery).
I took this as fate & cancelled the order :-(
I'm fairly happy with my 280x performance wise - just I'm running it in a Silverstone htpc case which is cramped & I wanted to get temps & power draw down a little.
Go with the gigabyte ud3p board though mate if you haven't ordered yet - its now 65 quid from amazon & is an absolute bargain - the 8+2 phasing makes it a superb oc'ing board.


Also the MSI board is one of the prettiest things I have ever seen.
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