FPS Drop in ALL Games!
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Luke Field
October 6, 2014 2:11:14 PM
I noticed this a couple of months ago and it has been annoying me ever since. In most if not all of my games I get FPS drops every minute or so, for example FIFA 15 (in a game) 120fps average then goes down to 30-50fps now this shouldn't be a problem at 50fps but due to the fact that it goes from high to low it stutters the game and lags it.
This happens in pretty much all my games, and when I record with any recorder during the times when these fps drops occur my fps goes to 20fps as I record at 60fps.
Specs:
AMD FX 8350
XFX R9 280x
8GB RAM
Hyper 212 evo cooler
Temps when gaming:
CPU goes to around 60 degrees average
GPU goes to around 65-70 degrees average
Is my computer overheating, these temps should be fine from what I've seen around.
I don't really want to defrag my hard drive though as I've got a bunch of games which always annoy me to download as it is so time consuming to do so.
This happens in pretty much all my games, and when I record with any recorder during the times when these fps drops occur my fps goes to 20fps as I record at 60fps.
Specs:
AMD FX 8350
XFX R9 280x
8GB RAM
Hyper 212 evo cooler
Temps when gaming:
CPU goes to around 60 degrees average
GPU goes to around 65-70 degrees average
Is my computer overheating, these temps should be fine from what I've seen around.
I don't really want to defrag my hard drive though as I've got a bunch of games which always annoy me to download as it is so time consuming to do so.
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Moltan9er
October 6, 2014 2:17:26 PM
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October 6, 2014 2:19:21 PM
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Luke Field
October 7, 2014 9:42:27 AM
Updated the drivers and get a better average frame rate (using fraps to see framerate), in FIFA 15 average frame rate was 160 in a game and this dropped to between 90 and 100 on cinematics such as replays etc. Started recording with fraps and after a couple seconds lag started fps went from 60 (recording fps) to 20 fps, so stopped recording and it was on 40-50fps then went up to 160 again, then throughout game it varied from 160fps to lag spikes bringing it down to 30-50fps. During these lag spikes I was on task manager and my CPU usage was going to 99-100% which it shouldn't and when these ended it went back down to 20-40% usuage which is fine under gaming.
Any suggestions now? I am now almost certain it is a CPU problem but not sure any answers are appreciated.
Any suggestions now? I am now almost certain it is a CPU problem but not sure any answers are appreciated.
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Luke Field
October 7, 2014 10:03:13 AM
Luke Field
October 7, 2014 12:19:30 PM
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GPU temp is fine. I really need to know MAX temp of the cpu, not average, not a range, the Max. The reason for this is is that I'm seeing reports indicating that max core (not CPU) temp for an Fx8350 is 62C, at which point it'll start throttling, but AMD doesn't say anything officially on this. Therefore you are very close to, and probably beyond this limit, hence the symptoms you are seeing. If you have the ability to show actual cpu clockspeed (live on a second screen perhaps, or recording it on a trace) then you'll see whether it is throttling .
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Luke Field
October 7, 2014 12:38:53 PM
Luke Field
October 7, 2014 1:19:54 PM
I just did a run with coretemp and hwmonitor on FIFA 15 it was lagging as if it was on 20fps but was showing 60fps until I closed a program down which had installed with coretemp by accident, then it went to over 100fps but went down to 40fps every once in a while. The max temperature I got was 64 degrees.
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bignastyid
October 7, 2014 1:27:59 PM
Luke Field
October 7, 2014 1:32:16 PM
Littlesackninja
October 7, 2014 1:37:54 PM
bignastyid
October 7, 2014 1:38:38 PM
Luke Field
October 7, 2014 1:43:12 PM
Luke Field
October 7, 2014 1:49:09 PM
Luke Field
October 7, 2014 1:55:44 PM
Luke Field
October 7, 2014 1:58:39 PM
Luke Field
October 7, 2014 2:13:04 PM
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Luke Field
October 7, 2014 2:15:47 PM
Yep, that's thermal throttling. Does your mobo have utilities to control fan speed?
But first
- the fan is working yes?
- the fan is pushing air through from the front to the back of the case?
- Is the heatsink warm?
- do you have fans pulling air into the front of the case and exhausting out of the back/top
I'm asking this as poor thermal contact would lead to a lot higher temps (maybe +10-15), and so it is unlikely to be a bad fit (if the HS is warm then the contact is generally ok), but it could be that you are starving the 212 of air to work with which would lead to poorly performing 212 (maybe+5-10).
How much thermal paste did you use? a thin smear is sufficient, too much and it makes it worse. The 212 is very good but you have a high TDP to get rid of, 125W, so it needs air to work with etc. A more aggressive fan speed can help.
But first
- the fan is working yes?
- the fan is pushing air through from the front to the back of the case?
- Is the heatsink warm?
- do you have fans pulling air into the front of the case and exhausting out of the back/top
I'm asking this as poor thermal contact would lead to a lot higher temps (maybe +10-15), and so it is unlikely to be a bad fit (if the HS is warm then the contact is generally ok), but it could be that you are starving the 212 of air to work with which would lead to poorly performing 212 (maybe+5-10).
How much thermal paste did you use? a thin smear is sufficient, too much and it makes it worse. The 212 is very good but you have a high TDP to get rid of, 125W, so it needs air to work with etc. A more aggressive fan speed can help.
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Luke Field
October 7, 2014 11:12:06 PM
iamlegend
October 7, 2014 11:41:14 PM
Luke Field
October 7, 2014 11:42:06 PM
iamlegend
October 7, 2014 11:45:06 PM
Luke Field
October 7, 2014 11:49:04 PM
iamlegend
October 7, 2014 11:53:53 PM
Luke Field
October 7, 2014 11:56:02 PM
iamlegend
October 8, 2014 12:02:49 AM
Luke Field
October 8, 2014 12:14:11 AM
Luke Field
October 8, 2014 10:01:11 AM
Turned on VSync and got a solid 60fps in borderlands 2 max settings and went down to 50fps in scene changers which I believe is what happens anyway. CPU stayed on 3990 to over 4000 all the time so thats good but when I record at 60fps I only get 40-50fps and that starts stuttering lag which is annoying.
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Luke Field
October 8, 2014 10:58:56 AM
Luke Field
October 8, 2014 12:31:02 PM
Luke Field
October 8, 2014 2:14:06 PM
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iamlegend
October 8, 2014 4:18:58 PM
If you are recording don`t expect to have the best gaming performance. Especially when using FRAPS. If you wanted to have the best gaming performance while recording get an external video recording card.
FRAPS takes a lot of storage and it consumes lot of CPU load which will cause your system to slow down while gaming.
FRAPS takes a lot of storage and it consumes lot of CPU load which will cause your system to slow down while gaming.
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Luke Field
October 9, 2014 12:17:15 AM
Icaraeus
October 9, 2014 4:33:17 AM
Luke Field
October 9, 2014 7:49:40 AM
Luke Field said:
I understand , saw these statements about fraps before but it was fine recording and gaming before why would thermal throttling just come on randomly? Also noticed it after I installed the Hyper 212 evo after a few weecs How much thermal paste did you use, is it tightened down appropriately?
Is the heatsink warm? Is the fan working? I've asked these questions before, and then you went off on a tangent.
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Luke Field
October 9, 2014 12:34:37 PM
I didn't use much thermal paste a line down the middle. I think it is tightened down properly yesterday when I went in to check for dust it seems fine, I haven't checked the heatsink when the computer is on as it is in a really awkward place to get to. The fan is working idle temps are around 14-30 degrees just in games but I can hear my GPU fan but the CPU fan is quite quiet anyway but in programs that show fan speeds it is showing a CPUFANIN and around 1500 RPM average. I'm going to buy another 2 cooling fans for my case and place them on top above the CPU as comments in videos I've watched have suggested this as it takes the hot air out of the CPU fan and takes it out of the case via the top.
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