First Home Build Advice/ Opinions Needed

ESOGirl · Oct 6, 2014

Hello All,
Im looking to build my first gaming PC. My budget is $500. I've put together something but I wanted to get the communities opinion on this build. I want to be able to play games like Skyrim with mods. It doesn't have to be on ultra settings but I'd like to at least get as high as I can (obviously). Any advice or recommendations you could through at me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/omvanya/saved/#savedbuild_1523641

Because0789 · Oct 6, 2014

Do you already have a Hard Drive?

ESOGirl · Oct 6, 2014

Because0789 :

Yes, sorry I already have a 1tb HD and all the peripherals

jaimelmiel · Oct 6, 2014

Change the 1x8GB to 2x4GB. But it looks good.

tiny voices · Oct 6, 2014

Problems: The PSU is junk. Replace it with an antec, XFX, Seasonic unit. This is the single most important part of a PC.

Skyrim HATES AMD cPUs. They are miserable compared to intel. IF you plan to play more skyrim than anything else, get an i3 FOR SURE.

ESOGirl · Oct 6, 2014

jaimelmiel :

tiny voices · Oct 6, 2014

2x4gb run in dual channel which is faster than single channel.

ESOGirl · Oct 6, 2014

tiny voices :

Noted, thank you. With your recommendations, would this system be easy to upgrade

tiny voices · Oct 6, 2014

Any system is easy to upgrade. All it takes is money. An i3 build will be easier and have a better upgrade path than AMD. The PSU I recommend is not really a suggestion as much as it is a requirement. I STRONGLY recommend an i3 over the 6300 for skyrim. The i3 will deliver almost DOUBLE the performance. Some other games are like this too, like Farcry 3. An i3 beats even an overclocked 8350 in both those games. Of course there are games where the performance of an i3 and 6300 is even though.

ESOGirl · Oct 6, 2014

tiny voices :

Sounds good as Skyrim is the game being played the most. Do you know if the i3 is compatible with my other selected components?

tiny voices · Oct 6, 2014

You will have to change the motherboard but that is all. Get an i3 4150 and the cheapest h97 board you can.

Make sure to get 2x4gb RAM as well.

jaimelmiel · Oct 6, 2014

tiny voices :

Did a little research. You will be able to play skyrim. You will not break the bank as far as FPS, But you will get decent gameplay. I believe that money is the matter in your case. It is something people like to do is spend your money when it is tight.
Of course if it is not then that is a different story.

tiny voices · Oct 6, 2014

An i3 build will not cost any more than the 6300 setup will....

Plus it has WAY better future for upgrades.

tiny voices · Oct 6, 2014

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,3427-6.html

6300 CAN'T EVEN lock the game at 60fps but a 3 year, 2 generation, bottom end i3 can get 73.8fps. A new i3 will easily put you somewhere in the 80s which means it easily will stay locked at 60fps where as with the 6300 you will see dips and stutters all day long. It is a Skyrim coding thing. It just does not play well with AMD CPUs at all.

jaimelmiel · Oct 6, 2014

Take a look at this before you switch to an i3.
It paints a little different story than you have been told about the I3 vs the 6300.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUFW6wFJwK4
Look at the whole video. You can skip the add.

ESOGirl · Oct 6, 2014

tiny voices :

great thank you so much!

tiny voices · Oct 6, 2014

Always glad to be able to help!

ESOGirl · Oct 6, 2014

jaimelmiel :

great video. Thank you for sharing. it does give me some food for thought. He did say however that some games perform better with i3 and vice versa. Im just wondering if skyrim is one of them.

jaimelmiel · Oct 6, 2014

If you choose to stay with Amd. I would change to a better motherboard also.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128651
This one has better power phasing. Just like not wanting a cheap power supply, you do not want a cheap Motherboard.

Because0789 · Oct 6, 2014

jaimelmiel :

I'm not sure how that was supposed to change anybody's mind, the i3 won in 2/3 games and again is not a old arch on a dead end platform. A year from now he could throw an i5 or i7 in the same computer and basically revitalize it.

ESOGirl · Oct 6, 2014

Thank you both for the info and your time. I'll have to do a bit more research but now at least I'm better informed than before.

tiny voices · Oct 6, 2014

I posted the link where the i3 stomps all over the 6300 in Skyrim.

Here is another for Farcry 3. Again the i3 beats even the 8350, let alone the 6300.
http://media.bestofmicro.com/9/G/364516/original/CPU-scaling.png

tiny voices · Oct 6, 2014

Because0789 :

jaimelmiel :

I'm not sure how that was supposed to change anybody's mind, the i3 won in 2/3 games and again is not a old arch on a dead end platform. A year from now he could throw an i5 or i7 in the same computer and basically revitalize it.

100% agree. The i3 is certainly the way to go.

tiny voices · Oct 6, 2014

http://media.bestofmicro.com/F/H/371213/original/StarCraft2.png

Here again we have the i3 beating the whole FX lineup.

jaimelmiel · Oct 6, 2014

Where you will also benefit is in things other than gaming. Yes the I3 because of its single core performance will as the speaker said beat the 6350 and 6300 in some games. There is no evidence or anything like a 2 to 1 Framerate ratio as someone stated. You get a few more fps with the I3, but the better choice if money maters now is the 6300 or the 6350 if you can afford to include it.
here is a deal on an FX6350
http://www.techforless.com/cgi-bin/tech4less/FD6350FRHKBOX?mv_pc=google_pla&utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=google_shopping&CAWELAID=120126600000438579&CAGPSPN=pla&catargetid=120126600000421526&cadevice=c&gclid=CjwKEAjw-8ihBRD2t9qT3NaW7igSJAD3_sNVcznJYa6kre9TLhqenC1UdVnUBF5P74VC-iXdvmmNRRoCbLnw_wcB

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