soundbar but TV has no optical out HELP ! LG NB550A
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Matthew Mannion
October 7, 2014 11:48:10 AM
I am a complete Noob with home cinema and would greatly appreciate any help solving the problem I have got my self in.
I have brought this sound bar, (LG NB5530A) as I got a really good deal. (not from amazon)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-NB5530A-Channel-Premium-Wire...
which has
Inputs
1x optical in
or
Blue tooth
But I have brought this TV ( Toshiba 40l1333D) , as it was £229 in Argos
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toshiba-40L1333D-40in-LED-FUL...
Which has the following connections
Connectivity:
1 SCART socket, 2 USB ports and 3 HDMI sockets.
PC input socket.
Component video socket.
Composite.
Headphone socket.
S-Video socket.
Does anyone know how I connect this up without an optical out on the TV. I know this is a noobish mistake, but I don't have the option to return them. As I brought them in preparation for moving house and thought it would be a good idea to wait until I moved into the new house to set it all up.
Now its been more than a month
HELP!!!
Thanks in advance
I have brought this sound bar, (LG NB5530A) as I got a really good deal. (not from amazon)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-NB5530A-Channel-Premium-Wire...
which has
Inputs
1x optical in
or
Blue tooth
But I have brought this TV ( Toshiba 40l1333D) , as it was £229 in Argos
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toshiba-40L1333D-40in-LED-FUL...
Which has the following connections
Connectivity:
1 SCART socket, 2 USB ports and 3 HDMI sockets.
PC input socket.
Component video socket.
Composite.
Headphone socket.
S-Video socket.
Does anyone know how I connect this up without an optical out on the TV. I know this is a noobish mistake, but I don't have the option to return them. As I brought them in preparation for moving house and thought it would be a good idea to wait until I moved into the new house to set it all up.
Now its been more than a month
HELP!!!
Thanks in advance
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Ouch.
I cant find any conlusive information on your TV.
According to amazon you have digital coax output (will look like an rca plug), but i cant find any additional info that supports that.
Are there any connecitons that say output on the tv. If they are inputs then that does not help me much.
Either way you will need an active adapter to convert whatever it is that your TV can output to the toslink (optical) that your soundbar can recieve.
I cant find any conlusive information on your TV.
According to amazon you have digital coax output (will look like an rca plug), but i cant find any additional info that supports that.
Are there any connecitons that say output on the tv. If they are inputs then that does not help me much.
Either way you will need an active adapter to convert whatever it is that your TV can output to the toslink (optical) that your soundbar can recieve.
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huilun02
October 7, 2014 12:04:03 PM
This might do the trick, although I'm not sure if it will work because analog 3.5mm might require active conversion to obtain an optical input signal.
https://www.google.com/search?q=3.5mm+to+optical+conver...
https://www.google.com/search?q=3.5mm+to+optical+conver...
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huilun02 said:
This might do the trick, although I'm not sure if it will work because analog 3.5mm might require active conversion to obtain an optical input signal.https://www.google.com/search?q=3.5mm+to+optical+conver...
That has to be a gimic. You cant just convert light beams to electricty without an active adapter.
Probably like all of the HDMI to VGA cables you see on ebay and ohh what do you know, they dont work.
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huilun02
October 7, 2014 12:10:48 PM
Found an analog to digital active converter
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=104&cp_id=10423&c...
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&c...
Yeah I know about the VGA to HDMI thing which is why I was skeptical as well.
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=104&cp_id=10423&c...
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&c...
Yeah I know about the VGA to HDMI thing which is why I was skeptical as well.
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reedo_43
October 7, 2014 12:18:11 PM
you would need something like this
http://www.4homespeakers.com/ditoancokitd.html?gclid=Cj...
and this
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-feet-3-5mm-Stereo-Splitter/...
http://www.4homespeakers.com/ditoancokitd.html?gclid=Cj...
and this
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-feet-3-5mm-Stereo-Splitter/...
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reedo_43 said:
you would need something like thishttp://www.4homespeakers.com/ditoancokitd.html?gclid=Cj...
and this
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-feet-3-5mm-Stereo-Splitter/...
NO.
The adapter he needs would need to OUTPUT toslink. That adapter inputs toslink and outputs analog.
For RCA to Toslink he would want this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Etekcity%C2%AE-Digital-Converte...
For Digital Coax to Toslink he would want this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ex-Pro%C2%AE-Coax-Input-convert...
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reedo_43
October 7, 2014 12:41:51 PM
Matthew Mannion
October 8, 2014 2:31:39 AM
boosted1g said:
reedo_43 said:
you would need something like thishttp://www.4homespeakers.com/ditoancokitd.html?gclid=Cj...
and this
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-feet-3-5mm-Stereo-Splitter/...
NO.
The adapter he needs would need to OUTPUT toslink. That adapter inputs toslink and outputs analog.
For RCA to Toslink he would want this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Etekcity%C2%AE-Digital-Converte...
For Digital Coax to Toslink he would want this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ex-Pro%C2%AE-Coax-Input-convert...
Thanks for all your replies.
My friend at work has said to be careful that my soundbar has the right type of optical input. Is there more than one type of optical cable ?.
Also , I found this about my soundbar
HDMI connectivity
High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) carries both sound and picture in a single cable from your devices to your high definition TV. Now you can easily connect your games console, satellite box, Blu-ray or Home Cinema System via HDMI for a true high definition entertainment experience with none of the hassle.
*HDMI cable included.
Would My TV need a HDMI out ? , or are HDMI ports both ways ?.
My problem is that I have Chrome cast and x-box 1. So I dont have a set top box to route the sound through. or am I just being stupid.
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huilun02
October 8, 2014 2:39:00 AM
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Matthew Mannion
October 8, 2014 3:42:20 AM
huilun02 said:
Ignore all the HDMI stuff. Your soundbar accepts only optical/bluetooth input. It comes with the appropriate optical cable.TV audio jack > 3.5mm to RCA splitter > RCA to optical active converter > optical cable > soundbar
Your Chromecast and Xbox take up one HDMI port each. Thats all.
Gutted Ill have to use the headphones port, Will it not be a massive drop in sound quality ?. The only reason I chose soundbar over PC speakers was because I was trying to avoid using the headphones port.
Can't believe there is so few options for audio out, starting to realise why the TV was so cheap now
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Matthew Mannion
October 8, 2014 5:29:46 AM
huilun02
October 8, 2014 5:39:11 AM
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Soundbar is a small upgrade over a 2.1 pc speakers. The soundbar has multiple drivers (speakers) and attempts to point them at an angle to kind of create the effect of surround sound (not a good replacement for true 5.1 or 7.1 though)
Onkyo makes an ok 2.1 home theater system model. At least then you would have normal inputs/outputs. If you want, if the store does allow returns you could tell us what systems they have and we can tell you what to get.
In regards to HDMI, IF AND ONLY IF both devices support it, there is audio return channel that allows you to pass audio irregardless of what is the input and what is the output. Now both devices have to have this standard and sometimes it can be a pain to set both devices to get this to work. If you keep the sound bard, just go with the active adapter to toslink/optical.
FYI, here is a breakdown on audio sources going from best to worst:
HDMI - 7.1 Surround Channel, Uncompressed Audio
Toslink - 5.1 Surround Sound, compressed Audio, data sent via light bursts
Digital Coax - same as Toslink but sent via normal electrical impulses, cable looks like an RCA
RCA Composite/Component - For the Audio portion these are the same. Stereo sound
3.5mm - Signal wise this is identical to RCA, any decent RCA cabe will be a thicker gauge, and RCA has shielding for each wire, thus 3.5 is "bellow" RCA in the list.
I have never heard of a second type of optical cable for home theater. He might be thinking/confused about Digital Coax and Toslink.
Onkyo makes an ok 2.1 home theater system model. At least then you would have normal inputs/outputs. If you want, if the store does allow returns you could tell us what systems they have and we can tell you what to get.
In regards to HDMI, IF AND ONLY IF both devices support it, there is audio return channel that allows you to pass audio irregardless of what is the input and what is the output. Now both devices have to have this standard and sometimes it can be a pain to set both devices to get this to work. If you keep the sound bard, just go with the active adapter to toslink/optical.
FYI, here is a breakdown on audio sources going from best to worst:
HDMI - 7.1 Surround Channel, Uncompressed Audio
Toslink - 5.1 Surround Sound, compressed Audio, data sent via light bursts
Digital Coax - same as Toslink but sent via normal electrical impulses, cable looks like an RCA
RCA Composite/Component - For the Audio portion these are the same. Stereo sound
3.5mm - Signal wise this is identical to RCA, any decent RCA cabe will be a thicker gauge, and RCA has shielding for each wire, thus 3.5 is "bellow" RCA in the list.
I have never heard of a second type of optical cable for home theater. He might be thinking/confused about Digital Coax and Toslink.
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Matthew Mannion
October 9, 2014 12:45:09 AM
boosted1g said:
Soundbar is a small upgrade over a 2.1 pc speakers. The soundbar has multiple drivers (speakers) and attempts to point them at an angle to kind of create the effect of surround sound (not a good replacement for true 5.1 or 7.1 though)Thanks for your reply.
Would using a soundbar through the headphones port lose the 3d features.
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huilun02
October 9, 2014 12:49:39 AM
Matthew Mannion
October 9, 2014 2:39:10 AM
huilun02 said:
Probably. 3.5mm only does 2.0/2.1 sound channels.I'm a little stuck with 2.1 as my girlfriend wants it to look nice and most 2.1 PC systems are like PC cases are too ugly to have on show.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a decent 2.1 set for sub £150
From what I Can see I will probably still get a better set using the sound bar as 2.1 as I got it for £149
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huilun02
October 9, 2014 2:49:51 AM
Matthew Mannion
October 9, 2014 6:22:19 AM
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You dont need to do a seperate optical from XBOX.
Connect XBOX to TV with HDMI and TV will output all its audio to the soundbar.
To answer your quesiton on the 3.5 and "3d effects". The sound bar will likely attempt to guess the background noise and put those to the angled "surround" speakers. Most full recievers have this and call it Dolby Digital [something], which is just the receiver using a codec to guess/convert the 2.0 sginal into a 5.1 source.
Connect XBOX to TV with HDMI and TV will output all its audio to the soundbar.
To answer your quesiton on the 3.5 and "3d effects". The sound bar will likely attempt to guess the background noise and put those to the angled "surround" speakers. Most full recievers have this and call it Dolby Digital [something], which is just the receiver using a codec to guess/convert the 2.0 sginal into a 5.1 source.
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