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October 8, 2014 6:26:18 AM

I am looking for a good wireless adapter, one that can detect the signals 20m away with thick walls.

Which will be a better solution?
TP-Link TL-WN8200ND
http://www.tp-link.sg/products/details/?categoryid=215&...

TP-Link Archer T2UH
http://www.tp-link.sg/products/details/?categoryid=3958...

Also, is there any really good routers in the market that is not only long ranged but also can penetrate through very thick walls? Thank you.




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October 8, 2014 6:35:56 AM

You would have to look for something in the lower frequency range to go through walls. The 2.4 and 5GHz will have trouble with thick walls.
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October 8, 2014 5:40:43 PM

ahnilated said:
You would have to look for something in the lower frequency range to go through walls. The 2.4 and 5GHz will have trouble with thick walls.


lower frequency range? you mean even below 2.4ghz? any recommendations?
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October 9, 2014 1:01:42 AM

If it has to be wifi then 2.4Ghz with an Alfa G or N adapter should be able to do it with a highly directional antenna to blast through wall.
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October 10, 2014 6:11:00 AM

ib2007 said:
If it has to be wifi then 2.4Ghz with an Alfa G or N adapter should be able to do it with a highly directional antenna to blast through wall.


What about the 2 TP-Link adapter I mentioned? They claim to be able to penetrate the thick walls.
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October 16, 2014 12:26:35 AM

No idea, i havent had a lot of experience with tplink products. I just use Alfa's they seem to squeeze out the most performance at a premium cost.
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October 16, 2014 12:28:10 AM

If you can wait, Toms Hardware guide has posted some news about Samsung going to make some new wifi products based on 60 Ghz spectrum was it? and they claim it will go through walls like knife through butter. Read up on it in the news section it might still be there.
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October 16, 2014 1:40:22 AM

60ghz will be blocked by walls even more. It likely will not be able to leave the room it is placed in. This really is nothing new it has been in the works for years it is just 802.11ad. It just got some hype because Samsung put out some marketing stuff that your non technical reporter types could half understand so it got released on public news services. It likely will only be used for things like wireless connections to monitors sorta a wireless HDMI cable.

Alfa is not more powerful no matter what they claim in their marketing stuff. Just like the 2 "hi power" tplink devices linked in the posts above. This is all marketing hype. They are just pointing out that they transmit at the maximum allowed power by the FCC. Almost all device do that now days. Alfa tends to put out intentionally confusing information. They add the antenna gain to their numbers. This is purely a attempt to confuse the uneducated consumers. Almost every device you can find is in the FCC database if they want to operate in the USA and most other countries have adopted the FCC standards. You can buy illegal equipment but no vendor will advertise it and you will likely have to import it directly from places like china.

When you dig you will find almost every device is transmitting very close to the legal maximum. The most common configuration is 250mw radios with 5.5db gain antenna. That is just barely under the 1watt maximum legal transmit power. Just because a device does not spell it out like alfa does does not mean it does not have the same power output. There are tiny difference like a few milliwatts on some depending on how close to the limit they want to push with the chance to get their product ruled illegal if they exceed the power even for a short time.

There is really no way to fix this problem. You might be able to use directional antenna on both ends and maybe blast the concentrated radio signal though the walls but there is no guarantees. All it takes is a very thin copper screen grounded to completely and total block all radio signals. A thick wall if you get unlucky can also accomplish the same thing.

This is 900mhz point to point equipment but its hard to say if that will go though a wall either.
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October 17, 2014 3:24:37 AM

"Alfa is not more powerful no matter what they claim in their marketing stuff. Just like the 2 "hi power" tplink devices linked in the posts above. This is all marketing hype." I was speaking from experience, I have used Netgear, Dlink, TP-Link and Cisco commercial hardware and Alfa always came on top in range and performance. It is not hype of any kind they just spend the time and attention to getting things tuned up properly and their quality control is the best I have seen anywhere. I have used the "high power" crap off ebay as well and I know what you are talking about and I must say Alfa is not on of those devices. If you pay the premium cost as I have for my hardware you will notice the difference and will most likely never go back to anything else.
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October 17, 2014 4:02:57 AM

ib2007 said:
"Alfa is not more powerful no matter what they claim in their marketing stuff. Just like the 2 "hi power" tplink devices linked in the posts above. This is all marketing hype." I was speaking from experience, I have used Netgear, Dlink, TP-Link and Cisco commercial hardware and Alfa always came on top in range and performance. It is not hype of any kind they just spend the time and attention to getting things tuned up properly and their quality control is the best I have seen anywhere. I have used the "high power" crap off ebay as well and I know what you are talking about and I must say Alfa is not on of those devices. If you pay the premium cost as I have for my hardware you will notice the difference and will most likely never go back to anything else.


You can post all the personal experience you want they mean very little this is why you see ever router there is rated good and bad in consumer ratings because houses make much more difference.
I could just as easily say I like ubquiti products better than amped but one person experience means nothing really when you compare devices that test out identical on the FCC standard tests. This is why I tend to stay away from any brand recommendation when people are asking about coverage and range.

Amped does not actually make radio chipset or amplifiers, like almost every other manufacture they are buying from companies like broadcom or maybe marvel. Only intel makes their own stuff.

Range is purely a function of radio output power. This is regulated by the government. The only test manufactures can not fudge the results on are these. It is very interesting to see the actual test results. This is one example
https://fcc.io/ZTT/-R20000G


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October 17, 2014 4:44:45 AM

Thanq for this discussion many of my doubts got clarified :) 
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19 minutes ago

bill001g said:
ib2007 said:
"Alfa is not more powerful no matter what they claim in their marketing stuff. Just like the 2 "hi power" tplink devices linked in the posts above. This is all marketing hype." I was speaking from experience, I have used Netgear, Dlink, TP-Link and Cisco commercial hardware and Alfa always came on top in range and performance. It is not hype of any kind they just spend the time and attention to getting things tuned up properly and their quality control is the best I have seen anywhere. I have used the "high power" crap off ebay as well and I know what you are talking about and I must say Alfa is not on of those devices. If you pay the premium cost as I have for my hardware you will notice the difference and will most likely never go back to anything else.


You can post all the personal experience you want they mean very little this is why you see ever router there is rated good and bad in consumer ratings because houses make much more difference.
I could just as easily say I like ubquiti products better than amped but one person experience means nothing really when you compare devices that test out identical on the FCC standard tests. This is why I tend to stay away from any brand recommendation when people are asking about coverage and range.

Amped does not actually make radio chipset or amplifiers, like almost every other manufacture they are buying from companies like broadcom or maybe marvel. Only intel makes their own stuff.

Range is purely a function of radio output power. This is regulated by the government. The only test manufactures can not fudge the results on are these. It is very interesting to see the actual test results. This is one example
https://fcc.io/ZTT/-R20000G




If my personal experience is not to your liking, go on google and do some actual research about Alfa products and why they are industry leaders. There are numerous benchmarks to the wahoo as well. Your opinion on the matter does not matter and that is the only thing that does not matter in this thread. Go back and read up you might actually learn something.
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