Upgrade Advice Needed (Intel i7 Series)

ButtChew

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Hello! I’ve decided to upgrade my system, I built my current rig back in 2009 and it’s served quite well up until now. My current setup is as follows:

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3L
Processor: i7-860 Lynnfield Quad-Core 2.8GHz (LGA 1156)
Video Card: MSI N260GTX
RAM: 4GB of CORSAIR XMS3 DDR3-1600

My goal is to have a system that will run current and upcoming games with Ultra, or damn close, settings without worrying about FPS etc. I’m not able to drop the money all at once, so my plan is to buy segments every 2-3 weeks roughly.
I just recently purchased a new video card, because I figured I could still use it in my current system (even if its not 100% utilized). I went with a GTX780 (3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI-e 16x), so I won’t need any advice there, as pretty much every current/recent mobo will take advantage of it.

The next logical step would be to pick out a good motherboard/CPU setup. I’d like to stick with Intel, and specifically i7’s. My budget will limit me to LGA-1150 or LGA-1150 series. As I type this, there are six 1150 CPU’s that fit my criteria, and four 1155 CPU’s. Their price ranges seem to be about the same (the price difference between the most expensive for each is around $15). To see what I’m looking at, I'm browsing newegg desktop processors with the filters: Intel, Core i7, 64-bit support, 1150/1555 sockets.

When it comes to 1150 vs. 1155 for a gaming PC, since prices are the same/close, is there a definitive “go with this socket type” opinion? And if not, what should I base my choices on? As far as my overclocking wants/needs, I do not intend to do any major overclocking. The most I do is utilize the handy software that comes with good motherboards and have it auto-OC it a bit.
The motherboard will obviously depend on the processor, so I won’t worry about that until I have a better idea of what processor I’m going with.

Thanks ahead of time for any input and advice!
 
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A xeon 1231-v3 will work fine to you, performs like a i7 4770 but doesn't have a igpu, its cheaper but its locked:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($248.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.78 @ Newegg)
Total: $323.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-08 17:01 EDT-0400


If you plan to do SLI or crossfire later, get another motherboard, something like this:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97extreme3


A unlocked i7 rises the cost a lot.....

PCPartPicker part list /...

frag06

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Go Haswell and Z97 (I recommend the Asus Z97-A). It will give you an upgrade path into Broadwell. The i7 4790K is great it you are going to overclock, if not, the 4790 will work well.

No reason to go 1155. It is last generation and is no longer used.

If you just purchased the 780, see if you can return it for a 970.

 

ferwindjacks

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First off, if your 780 is a recent buy within a month you can return it and grab a 970/980 and pay little more for the performance increase. Or, if its an EVGA GPU then you can trade up to the recent gen within 90 days (more info here: http://www.evga.com/support/stepup/)

The 1155 socket is a 3rd generation Intel CPU, while the 1150 is the 4th Gen CPU. Socket type also determines what type of motherboard, so you'll need a 1150 socket mobo for 4th gen CPUs and 1155 socket mobo for 3rd gen CPUs.

What is your price range for the new mobo/cpu combo? The current best CPU for 1150 is the i7-4790k (socket 1150). Such a CPU will require the Z87/Z97 series of motherboards. Giving us your price range will help you narrow this down.
 
1150 is the latest and current socket. For gaming an i5 4690k is the best. For editing, an i7 4790k. If not overlcocking the CPU, try an i5 4690 or i7 4790 on a H97 mobo. If overclocking, get a Z97 eg ASRock Z97 Extreme 4 per http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mainstream-gaming-z97-motherboard,3824.html along with a custom cooler (eg Coolermaster Hyper 212 evo for the i5 or a Noctua DH14 or Corsair H100i for the i7) and ram - 2 x 4gb 1866 cl9 1.5V.
 

ButtChew

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I'll look into the 780/970, haven't even received it yet so I'm sure it wouldn't be hard.



I'd be willing to shell out the $310 for the 4790, and a decent mobo range is usually around $150 (at least I assume I can find a good mobo around that range).


I've heard that an i5 is just fine for gaming, currently $240 for the 4790K, and $225 for the regular 4709. I don't plan on overclocking besides the slight boost you can get with mobo software etc, but I do run multiple monitors, would like to be able to stream if wanted, the only editing I do is photoshop/illustrator/etc I don't do any major rendoring or anything.

 

mlga91

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A xeon 1231-v3 will work fine to you, performs like a i7 4770 but doesn't have a igpu, its cheaper but its locked:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($248.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.78 @ Newegg)
Total: $323.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-08 17:01 EDT-0400


If you plan to do SLI or crossfire later, get another motherboard, something like this:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97extreme3


A unlocked i7 rises the cost a lot.....

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($336.93 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($123.79 @ Newegg)
Total: $489.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-08 17:04 EDT-0400


Almost $200 more, if you do not want to make any serious overclocking, stick with the xeon, it boosts itself to 3.8GHz, which is nice.

You should try your current setup (if you havent tried) it maybe can give you a pleasant surprize.
 
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ButtChew

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Are there any advantages to having a iGPU?



I definitely will be, I just know my mobo is advertised as a PCIEx16 but it says it only runs at 4x on the specifications:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128406
 

mlga91

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Igpu are the integratid graphics, that you'll not be using because you already have a dedicated video card, as for the motherboard, you have two pcie slots, one running at x16, and the other at x4, put your card on the x16 one and it will work.

http://es.gigabyte.com/products/page/mb/ga-p55-ud3_10/specs/
 

ButtChew

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Interesting, newegg's description is very misleading then. Thanks for that heads up! I'll be trying out the 780 hopefully tomorrow, and depending on how that goes I may just RMA/Return it for a 900 series. Thanks again!