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Broadwell Vs Haswell (Devil's Canyon)

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October 9, 2014 8:36:49 PM

So I'm researching for my upgrade that I'm currently investing for that will take place in late December or early January. I was wondering, at that time, will Broadwell be worth it over Haswell(Devil's Canyon) in terms of Overclocking and performance?

Importance in Choice:
- Main Factor: Overclocking

Things I already know:
- Broadwell has little to no performance increase.
- Broadwell offers the new 14nm lithography and lower power consumption.

Key Questions:
- How much higher can I overclock a Broadwell processor than a Haswell (Devil's Canyon), specifically the 4790K? (I have a Cooler Master V8 GTS CPU Cooler with Tuniq MX-2 Thermal Paste)
- Will Broadwell be supported by Z97?(Because if not I'm definitely not getting it.)
A: Broadwell is compatible with Z97. (Thanks guys!)

NOTE: I do not have an Intel Processor. This is a switch from AMD to Intel.

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October 9, 2014 8:42:46 PM

If you already have a Devil's Canyon CPU, you would have to have WAY more money than brains to upgrade up just one generation. People are still finding Sandy Bridge chips to be more than powerful enough for gaming when overclocked. Just saying.
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October 9, 2014 8:52:04 PM

If you have a Haswell chip right now, the only benefit you'd get from going Broadwell is that you'd be running the newest line of Intel CPU. There's no point in upgrading from Haswell to Broadwell, from what has been released.

As far as OC'ing is concerned, until the Broadwell chips come out, I don't think anyone can accurately tell you how well it will OC. If you can wait until the OC'ed reviews of the Broadwell chips start to pour in, that will tell you more than speculation will. Even if they had stated their intended goal to be better OC'ing, you never really know what the final product will give you in the real world. OC'ing capabilities are mostly going to be little more than pure speculation at this point, and it's a bad idea to base buying decisions on speculations in this instance.

On the upside, the Z97 boards will be Broadwell compatible.
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October 9, 2014 8:56:50 PM

Can't answer your query as of now because broadwell is not yet out so no benchmark or performance info is available.

H97/Z97 supports broadwell.

There is no point of updating from haswell to broadwell. If you have not yet purchased CPU then you can wait for broadwell but if you have haswell based CPU, stick with it in my humble opinion.

Users having sandy bridge or ivy bridge may consider upgrading to braodwell though sandy/ivy bridge chips are still powerful enough to game on.

MHO.
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October 9, 2014 9:00:51 PM

DarkSable said:
If you already have a Devil's Canyon CPU, you would have to have WAY more money than brains to upgrade up just one generation. People are still finding Sandy Bridge chips to be more than powerful enough for gaming when overclocked. Just saying.


Either way, I will be getting at least a 22nm Haswell Processor with a Z97 motherboard. Also, I am not upgrading from Haswell to Broadwell. I am upgrading from Richland(AMD) to Haswell (It's a huge performance jump). So, to get a general idea of the OC'ing difference, how much higher were people able to overclock with a 22nm processor instead of a 32nm processor? Does anyone know?
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October 9, 2014 9:03:24 PM

Skylyne said:
If you have a Haswell chip right now, the only benefit you'd get from going Broadwell is that you'd be running the newest line of Intel CPU. There's no point in upgrading from Haswell to Broadwell, from what has been released.

As far as OC'ing is concerned, until the Broadwell chips come out, I don't think anyone can accurately tell you how well it will OC. If you can wait until the OC'ed reviews of the Broadwell chips start to pour in, that will tell you more than speculation will. Even if they had stated their intended goal to be better OC'ing, you never really know what the final product will give you in the real world. OC'ing capabilities are mostly going to be little more than pure speculation at this point, and it's a bad idea to base buying decisions on speculations in this instance.

On the upside, the Z97 boards will be Broadwell compatible.


Thanks for the answer to the compatibility issue. As for the answer to OC'ing, I think looking at the OC capability jump from 32nm to 22nm would tell me. And I'm not upgrading from Haswell to Broadwell. I'm upgrading from Richland(AMD) to Haswell/Broadwell.
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October 9, 2014 9:20:39 PM

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So, to get a general idea of the OC'ing difference, how much higher were people able to overclock with a 22nm processor instead of a 32nm processor? Does anyone know?

Once again, going on this kind of speculation will not give you an accurate idea of what to buy. If you're okay with waiting for the Broadwell chips to come out, you might as well wait for the OC'ing reviews to be published; it shouldn't take too long for that to happen. If you are anxious, the Haswell chips will do fine.
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October 9, 2014 9:41:26 PM

XtremeAero426 said:
Skylyne said:
If you have a Haswell chip right now, the only benefit you'd get from going Broadwell is that you'd be running the newest line of Intel CPU. There's no point in upgrading from Haswell to Broadwell, from what has been released.

As far as OC'ing is concerned, until the Broadwell chips come out, I don't think anyone can accurately tell you how well it will OC. If you can wait until the OC'ed reviews of the Broadwell chips start to pour in, that will tell you more than speculation will. Even if they had stated their intended goal to be better OC'ing, you never really know what the final product will give you in the real world. OC'ing capabilities are mostly going to be little more than pure speculation at this point, and it's a bad idea to base buying decisions on speculations in this instance.

On the upside, the Z97 boards will be Broadwell compatible.


Thanks for the answer to the compatibility issue. As for the answer to OC'ing, I think looking at the OC capability jump from 32nm to 22nm would tell me. And I'm not upgrading from Haswell to Broadwell. I'm upgrading from Richland(AMD) to Haswell/Broadwell.


In that case stick with your current setup and wait for Broadwell and its reviews. Make your decision accordingly.
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October 9, 2014 10:46:41 PM

Broadwell for desktop won't be out for like 6 months. That should simplify your options. ;) 
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October 9, 2014 10:52:38 PM

Cazalan said:
Broadwell for desktop won't be out for like 6 months. That should simplify your options. ;) 


Rumors were circulating that Intel may release Broadwell startup CPUs near Xmas. Any latest news/update on that.
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October 9, 2014 10:56:25 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if some Broadwell chips made it to market around the xmas holiday. Either way, if the OP can get by without an upgrade until the Broadwell chips are released, I don't see what the real rush to get a Haswell chip is. If there isn't a real need, then why buy a Haswell now, and risk missing out because you were impatient? It might not be the biggest improvement in OC capabilities, but it might be something the OP wants.
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October 10, 2014 10:06:13 AM

EasyLover said:
Cazalan said:
Broadwell for desktop won't be out for like 6 months. That should simplify your options. ;) 


Rumors were circulating that Intel may release Broadwell startup CPUs near Xmas. Any latest news/update on that.


The Broadwell parts shipping now are the Broadwell-Y aka Core-M processors for the 5W range. These are low end mobile parts. They will be available as early as this month from companies like Lenovo/Dell.

You're looking for desktop gaming Broadwell which will be much later. 2015Q2 or 2015Q3.
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Cazalan said:
EasyLover said:
Cazalan said:
Broadwell for desktop won't be out for like 6 months. That should simplify your options. ;) 


Rumors were circulating that Intel may release Broadwell startup CPUs near Xmas. Any latest news/update on that.


The Broadwell parts shipping now are the Broadwell-Y aka Core-M processors for the 5W range. These are low end mobile parts. They will be available as early as this month from companies like Lenovo/Dell.

You're looking for desktop gaming Broadwell which will be much later. 2015Q2 or 2015Q3.


Great. Thanks for update.
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So, OP, here are your options: -

Continue with current specs and wait for broadwell

or

Simply buy Haswell Refresh with good mobo and settle with it.

Your call.
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