Upgrading Video Card and PSU

matt4x4

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Hello, I am upgrading my Video Card on a HP Pavilion desktop with onboard ATI Radeon HD 3200 and is rated at 84 points on the PassMark - G3D Mark. Thats a very low number. The system itself is, dual core 2.6Ghz AM2/AM2+ cpu, with 4gb of DDR2 6300 ram and a 320GB 7200rpm sata 3gb/s /SATA2 hard drive.

While asking around about upgrading the video, I realized I need to upgrade the Power Supply from the stock 300W, but I have to look at the amperages AND wattage. I have read a few articles on this website, states that I should stick with one 12V rail rather then keeping track of the power on 2 rails. I can understand that.

This is a basic desktop, used for work (Word, Excel, PDF), internet surfing with a few basic online games, I usually have Youtube going with some tunes, perhaps email is open. I am currently enjoying World of Tanks, with my current setup the graphics is lagging hugely, this is what got me to investigate upgrading my system. I must add I have multiple windows open while surfing the web, and multiple programs on, like World of Tanks. Thats the most intensive program I have. Are there any other games that are popular and are graphic intensive?

Of course the Vista O/S is much to be desired on my system, as I have read up on lately from my problems of "Not Responding" programs, screen freezing but starts up again....sometimes. So I will be buying the next O/S that Microsoft will come out with next year. MS9 or 10 or whatever they are going to call it.

I just upgraded the monitor to an LG 27" lcd, so I think this next upgrade step will keep the system going for years to come. Especially when the kids come over to play on the computer.

I have it down to a few different options for graphics card and power supply unit. The eVGA GeForce GTX 750 is $110 (super-clocked) to $130 (normal), its score is 3256 points. Next in line is the eVGA GeForce GTX 650 for $80 with the mail in rebate its score is 1839 points. Is eVGA a quality brand? Both those cards need 20A on the +12V rail and 400W supply. I also wonder if the $30 increase is worth the extra scoring points on the Passmark G3D Mark benchmark.

Power Supply is eVGA 600B 600W Bronze for $55. +3.3V=24A, +5V=20A, +12V=49A -12V=0.3A +5Vsb=3A. I was amazed at the 49A on the +12V rail. Thats why I picked it, plus the more expensive video cards need 30A and 600W. eVGA 430W for $30 and +3.3V=24A, +5V=15A, +12V=34A. -12V=0.3A, +5Vxb=3A

I already bought a 430W +12V=32A, its a Corsair CX430 for $50, and I already bought the eVGA GeForce GTX650 fopr $80.

Thanks for your help!
 
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The most powerful CPU you could use is the Phenom x4 9950 (2.6GHz), but it seems you cannot find a decently priced one, even if used...

Try to sell the CPU+RAM+mobo and go for:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117374&cm_re=pentium-_-19-117-374-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157547
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193&cm_re=ddr3-_-20-231-193-_-Product

Adding the GTX650, the system...

Cristi72

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Hello,

EVGA is a good PSU brand, it is OK.

If you have the budget, go for the GTX750Ti (EVGA, Asus) or R7-260x (Sapphire, Gigabyte).

"I just upgraded the monitor to an LG 27" lcd, so I think this next upgrade step will keep the system going for years to come" : here you are pretty much wrong; your system is an old one even for today's standards and the requirements for all software (especially games) are going up, so I suggest to upgrade the whole PC. Please list the specs for your system (CPU, motherboard), you could have some upgrade path left if the motherboard is of a decent quality.
 

Cristi72

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The most powerful CPU you could use is the Phenom x4 9950 (2.6GHz), but it seems you cannot find a decently priced one, even if used...

Try to sell the CPU+RAM+mobo and go for:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117374&cm_re=pentium-_-19-117-374-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157547
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193&cm_re=ddr3-_-20-231-193-_-Product

Adding the GTX650, the system will work very good with the CX430. Later, you could upgrade the CPU to any i5/i7 and to any GPU (that EVGA can drive even an GTX780Ti).
 
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matt4x4

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I like that, $200 for a whole new system, MB, cpu and ram. Cheaper then an upgraded cpu on current mb. I hope my case is up to snuff, it is ATX with a micro ATX mb, but HP does some weird things I heard (from the computer guy). Proprietory stuff.
 

matt4x4

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OK I just installed a 600W 49A on the +12V rail. There were 2 rail PSU's but I stayed with the singular rail and high amerage. It was recommended to stick with one rail, so you dont have to balance the rails. The older year 2007 HP PSU was 300W and 11A on the +12V rail. Very minimal, the lowest on a new PSU is 15A for an ultra-cheap PSU. But you dont want to cheap out on your PSU.

I just finished installing the GeForce GTX650 with its drivers and just started up World of Tanks. I was originally getting 15-20fps on the on-motherboard Radeon HD 3200 gpu, but it probably was overheating and lately was lucky to get 8+fps. Very simple install, except for a PSU cable that was a little different then the original. original was a one piece 24 pin to mb, the new one theres a 20pin with a 4 pin but they ran in the same cable protector sleave (2 different connectors). The other slight minor issue was there were 2 cpu cables, doesnt matter which one you plug in. Luckily I read DO NOT INSTALL 4 pin.

So now I am rocking out at 45fps, standing still is 58fps on World of Tanks. So for $80 on sale with mail in rebate (regularly $100) its a great deal. I am still using a 2.6Ghz Dual Core (AM2/AM2+) cpu with 4gb of ddr2 ram and 320gb hd at 7200rpm.