How much of a performance (gaming) increase an i7 4790K bring over an AMD FX 8350 ?
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Atulkmr
October 10, 2014 6:13:14 AM
Current system specs : AMD FX 8350
Msi GTX 770 2GB OC Edition
G-skill DD3 16 GB RAM
Samsung SSD pro 128 GB
I think that's all the things you need to know to answer the question.
Yeah, so if I switch to an i7 4790K, how much of a overall gaming performance increase can I expect ? like +5 to 10 FPS in the current game settings ? Any other substantial improvements ?
I own a legit copy of Watch_Dogs, I know that it is very poorly optimized, but still would this switch cure the lags I get like every 3rd minute while playing the game ?
Should I get liquid cooling too ? (I have 3 or 4 cabinet fans but yeah it heats up my room)
Msi GTX 770 2GB OC Edition
G-skill DD3 16 GB RAM
Samsung SSD pro 128 GB
I think that's all the things you need to know to answer the question.
Yeah, so if I switch to an i7 4790K, how much of a overall gaming performance increase can I expect ? like +5 to 10 FPS in the current game settings ? Any other substantial improvements ?
I own a legit copy of Watch_Dogs, I know that it is very poorly optimized, but still would this switch cure the lags I get like every 3rd minute while playing the game ?
Should I get liquid cooling too ? (I have 3 or 4 cabinet fans but yeah it heats up my room)
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niko24
October 10, 2014 6:24:53 AM
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Atulkmr said:
Current system specs : AMD FX 8350Msi GTX 770 2GB OC Edition
G-skill DD3 16 GB RAM
Samsung SSD pro 128 GB
I think that's all the things you need to know to answer the question.
Yeah, so if I switch to an i7 4790K, how much of a overall gaming performance increase can I expect ? like +5 to 10 FPS in the current game settings ? Any other substantial improvements ?
I own a legit copy of Watch_Dogs, I know that it is very poorly optimized, but still would this switch cure the lags I get like every 3rd minute while playing the game ?
Should I get liquid cooling too ? (I have 3 or 4 cabinet fans but yeah it heats up my room)
You would get a performance increase in CPU intensive games
such as watch dogs or arma 3
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A 4790K would be a huge improvement over an FX-8350 in every way, but if your focus is on gaming, an i5 will do just as well and save you a ton of cash. That said, I'd wait for the new 14nm chips to arrive before upgrading.
Liquid cooling is only worth it if you spend serious money and want high overclocks. AIO coolers like a Hydro H60 and H80 don't perform much better than regular heatsink coolers. Not only that, they're noisier and more expensive. It's only when you step up to an H100i or H110 that you start to notice a difference, but even then, a Noctua NH-D15 (the best air cooler on the market) will still give it a run for its money.
Liquid cooling is only worth it if you spend serious money and want high overclocks. AIO coolers like a Hydro H60 and H80 don't perform much better than regular heatsink coolers. Not only that, they're noisier and more expensive. It's only when you step up to an H100i or H110 that you start to notice a difference, but even then, a Noctua NH-D15 (the best air cooler on the market) will still give it a run for its money.
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some guy posted this on another thread I was a little surprised
http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/56/amd-fx-8350-pow...
http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/56/amd-fx-8350-pow...
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Swede69
October 10, 2014 8:02:44 AM
The 4790k is much, much faster than any AMD 8 core.......the difference is literally night and day. As dude above me said, i5's are gaming chips, i7's are for multi-media, encoding, crunching data on spreadsheets,etc. Hyperthreading is just a heat increase, and not enough games utilize a second thread, maybe a dozen games will see a minor gain from HT cpu.
4690k@4.7Ghz with 2x 770 SC ACX Sli-
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4297917?
Now that's power(top 3% of all systems tested)!!!!
4690k@4.7Ghz with 2x 770 SC ACX Sli-
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4297917?
Now that's power(top 3% of all systems tested)!!!!
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well to each his own just take all you can read up on and come to a price point I went intel cause amd did not offer nothing new over what I already had from them when I was ready to build new , but the one thing I wonder about was going with the xeon chip instead of the I5 for the hyperthreding you may want to look at them chips also
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Swede69
October 10, 2014 8:24:10 AM
junkeymonkey said:
well to each his own just take all you can read up on and come to a price point I went intel cause amd did not offer nothing new over what I already had from them when I was ready to build new , but the one thing I wonder about was going with the xeon chip instead of the I5 for the hyperthreding you may want to look at them chips also Except HT is seldom utilized in any gaming scenario........
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Atulkmr
October 10, 2014 10:34:14 AM
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A 4790K would be a huge improvement over an FX-8350 in every way, but if your focus is on gaming, an i5 will do just as well and save you a ton of cash. That said, I'd wait for the new 14nm chips to arrive before upgrading.Liquid cooling is only worth it if you spend serious money and want high overclocks. AIO coolers like a Hydro H60 and H80 don't perform much better than regular heatsink coolers. Not only that, they're noisier and more expensive. It's only when you step up to an H100i or H110 that you start to notice a difference, but even then, a Noctua NH-D15 (the best air cooler on the market) will still give it a run for its money.
okay, how long before I can expect those new 22 nm CPUs ? I'm really looking forward to changing this CPU, it's noisy, inefficient, and how can I forget about the extra heat sink it needs
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There are two iterations of 14nm processors, named Broadwell and Skylake, but as for a release date, who knows? I've read articles saying that Broadwell was going to be this month, then next month and now apparently it's due early next year. I don't think Intel themselves have announced a release date, so anything could happen.
If you're desperate to change, the Haswell range is absolutely fine, but I'd strongly recommend you wait for Broadwell and see how it performs.
If you're desperate to change, the Haswell range is absolutely fine, but I'd strongly recommend you wait for Broadwell and see how it performs.
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Swede69
October 10, 2014 4:04:04 PM
bicycle_repair_man said:
A 4790K would be a huge improvement over an FX-8350 in every way, but if your focus is on gaming, an i5 will do just as well and save you a ton of cash. That said, I'd wait for the new 14nm chips to arrive before upgrading.Liquid cooling is only worth it if you spend serious money and want high overclocks. AIO coolers like a Hydro H60 and H80 don't perform much better than regular heatsink coolers. Not only that, they're noisier and more expensive. It's only when you step up to an H100i or H110 that you start to notice a difference, but even then, a Noctua NH-D15 (the best air cooler on the market) will still give it a run for its money.
Only good air heatsink is the hyper 212 Evo currently. Nocturna is overpriced garbage
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Atulkmr
October 11, 2014 1:22:41 AM
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There are two iterations of 14nm processors, named Broadwell and Skylake, but as for a release date, who knows? I've read articles saying that Broadwell was going to be this month, then next month and now apparently it's due early next year. I don't think Intel themselves have announced a release date, so anything could happen.If you're desperate to change, the Haswell range is absolutely fine, but I'd strongly recommend you wait for Broadwell and see how it performs.
Okay, list your top 3 preferences of the CPU (i5 and i7 both and consider the price too)
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BrandonCSLC
October 12, 2014 7:02:36 AM
Why would you ditch that FX8350? I have one with 2 GTX770 4GB cards in SLI and I have no problems maxing out any game. I mean.... are you looking to join the masses of people that run benchmarks? I personally don't play benchmarks. I like to play video games. 60fps is fine for me because I have a 60Hz 1080p monitor. Sure the Intel is faster and you might get 120fps instead of 100fps with what you currently have. You also might want to think about the way games are made these days. They are mostly made for the latest consoles (both of which now sport AMD 8 core CPU's) and then ported to PC. Crysis 3, Shaow of Mordor, Borderlands BF4 and so on all utilize 8 core CPU's and run great on that FX8350. Like I said, You may get 10 or 20 more FPS out of an Intel chip but that FX chip will still run anything that you throw at it for a couple years and you don't have to spend 600 bucks for a new CPU and motherboard.
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October 12, 2014 7:04:25 AM
StupidComputers
October 14, 2014 12:46:35 AM
Dude, I have a 965 @3.9 and a 7970. I play all my games on high/ultra. WatchDogs never gave me a problem. Tho honestly it bored me and i haven't played it much. I did just finish Dead Rising 3 on max settings, and rarely when I rolled up in a turret truck thru a horde (100s) of zombies and started wasting 20-40 per second, I would get some stutter.. rarely, depends what overclock (cpu/gpu) i was using. Different games like different stuff, i dunno.
Maybe 2gb if VRAM ain't enuff, Dead Rising 3 used 2.7gigs of VRAM, probably because the other 0.3 was in use, which could explain the horde stutter.
Personally I'm about to pick up a 4790k -maybe even just an 83x0 price dependant, not because I have any need of upgrading CPU (8320 for $100, maybe I would have) or platform, especially after what I saw the new EVO 840 250gb SSD i just grabbed do for an AM2! I'm so getting an 850 pro (if they fix their read bug from the 840 on time..*cough*oct.15th*cough*). I just need another computer.
I don't see much of a future in current amd PC components (maybe GPUs-barely), especially when the motherboards are just as or more expensive. The mem controller on the 965 still can't run the $200 4gb of Ram i bought to go with it 4 years ago at the right speed or timings lol, but it handles games fine. Pushes the 7970 OC'd to 75c/100% load at 2.0 x8!
1) Look, if the heat is in your room not your computer, then your cooling system is doing it's job.
2) If a game is gimping an 8350/770 because of poor optimization, unpark your cores. Just be careful with that 8350, only unpark a few, maybe up to 6 as needed, all 8 might really put your cooler to the test/melt stuff lol. Alternate which u unpark as well. You could also try cleaning your registry etc..
This is old skool amd tactics man, if you can wait for the new stuff, do it, I wish I could wait.
P.S. If u got CnQ and the junk around it turned on... there's a special hell waiting for u
I say if everything else fails, get another 770, i think it has to be 2gigs like the other, check on that.
It can't hurt u if/when u upgrade more the CPU, unless u plan to get some 1 slot micro atx intel board lol. Hell sell it/them for $ toward the 980 dude was talkin about. maybe 970...
Maybe 2gb if VRAM ain't enuff, Dead Rising 3 used 2.7gigs of VRAM, probably because the other 0.3 was in use, which could explain the horde stutter.
Personally I'm about to pick up a 4790k -maybe even just an 83x0 price dependant, not because I have any need of upgrading CPU (8320 for $100, maybe I would have) or platform, especially after what I saw the new EVO 840 250gb SSD i just grabbed do for an AM2! I'm so getting an 850 pro (if they fix their read bug from the 840 on time..*cough*oct.15th*cough*). I just need another computer.
I don't see much of a future in current amd PC components (maybe GPUs-barely), especially when the motherboards are just as or more expensive. The mem controller on the 965 still can't run the $200 4gb of Ram i bought to go with it 4 years ago at the right speed or timings lol, but it handles games fine. Pushes the 7970 OC'd to 75c/100% load at 2.0 x8!
1) Look, if the heat is in your room not your computer, then your cooling system is doing it's job.
2) If a game is gimping an 8350/770 because of poor optimization, unpark your cores. Just be careful with that 8350, only unpark a few, maybe up to 6 as needed, all 8 might really put your cooler to the test/melt stuff lol. Alternate which u unpark as well. You could also try cleaning your registry etc..
This is old skool amd tactics man, if you can wait for the new stuff, do it, I wish I could wait.
P.S. If u got CnQ and the junk around it turned on... there's a special hell waiting for u
I say if everything else fails, get another 770, i think it has to be 2gigs like the other, check on that.
It can't hurt u if/when u upgrade more the CPU, unless u plan to get some 1 slot micro atx intel board lol. Hell sell it/them for $ toward the 980 dude was talkin about. maybe 970...
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