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Geertt2
October 10, 2014 7:42:59 AM
Approximate Purchase Date: By the end of the year
Budget Range: $3000-$5000 USD. However keep in mind that I am located in China where computer parts have an increased 20% in taxes which means a $500 video card in the US might cost $600 to $650 here.
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming
Are you buying a monitor: No
Parts to Upgrade: (e.g.: CPU, mobo, RAM) Everything including case
Do you need to buy OS: No
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I usually use Newegg as a reference for the price of parts however, I get my hardware in a physical store.
Location: Shanghai, China
Parts Preferences: I tend to prefer evga for my graphics card but this isn't set in stone.
Overclocking: Yes
SLI or Crossfire: Yes
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 (I want to make a tri-monitor setup this time)
Additional Comments: There isn't a lot of watercooling options here in Shanghai for GPU, however I do want my case and parts to be cooled sufficiently for any overclocking I might do in the future.
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: It's been 5 years and I am still using a i5 760 with a 1 year old gtx 660.
Any suggestions on parts will be greatly appreciated.
Budget Range: $3000-$5000 USD. However keep in mind that I am located in China where computer parts have an increased 20% in taxes which means a $500 video card in the US might cost $600 to $650 here.
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming
Are you buying a monitor: No
Parts to Upgrade: (e.g.: CPU, mobo, RAM) Everything including case
Do you need to buy OS: No
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I usually use Newegg as a reference for the price of parts however, I get my hardware in a physical store.
Location: Shanghai, China
Parts Preferences: I tend to prefer evga for my graphics card but this isn't set in stone.
Overclocking: Yes
SLI or Crossfire: Yes
Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 (I want to make a tri-monitor setup this time)
Additional Comments: There isn't a lot of watercooling options here in Shanghai for GPU, however I do want my case and parts to be cooled sufficiently for any overclocking I might do in the future.
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: It's been 5 years and I am still using a i5 760 with a 1 year old gtx 660.
Any suggestions on parts will be greatly appreciated.
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Joseph DeGarmo
October 10, 2014 7:56:05 AM
ksarex
October 10, 2014 8:09:54 AM
I would get something like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($589.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-GAMING 5 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($264.60 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($529.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung XP941 Series 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($255.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($234.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($335.66 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($335.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 760T Black ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2996.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($589.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-GAMING 5 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($264.60 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($529.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung XP941 Series 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($255.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($234.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($335.66 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($335.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 760T Black ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2996.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Geertt2
October 10, 2014 8:26:41 AM
ksarex said:
I would get something like this:PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($589.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-GAMING 5 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($264.60 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($529.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung XP941 Series 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($255.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($234.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($335.66 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($335.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 760T Black ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2996.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Is there a specific reason your selection for video cards is gtx 970? it's 1/2 the benchmarks of a single gtx 780. Except perhaps for pixel rate (http://www.hwcompare.com/18223/geforce-gtx-780-ti-vs-ge...)
Also I read that i7 is typically not necessary for gaming unless there has been changes I do not know about?
Thanks for the quick responses
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geofelt
October 10, 2014 8:31:47 AM
It is a bit premature for detail planning.
Prices and products will change by the end of the year.
That said, your budget is plenty for what you want to do.
1. 4k gaming or triple monitor gaming requires serious graphics capability.
It is not well satisfied by any single gpu. Possibly, if we see a GTX980ti that might change.
Today, you are looking at a good solution via sli GTX970 or GTX980 cards.
I like EVGA, and particularly the reference blower versions. They are better in sli configurations where the top card can otherwise get starved for cooling air.
2. On the cpu, there is nothing better than the i7-4790K.
You might be tempted by haswell-E.
Few games can use more than 2-3 cores, so the 6 and 8 core parts are not that helpful to the gamer.
Also, the tdp limit keeps haswell-E from overclocking individual cores to very high limits compared to a quad.
A i704790K will run at 4.0/4.4 turbo at stock. A conservative oc might add 0.2 more with a fair tower type air cooler.
More, and you are looking at a vcore of over 1.30 which ic not good for 24/7 operation.
3. Look at Phanteks or noctua for good air coolers. buy one with two 140mm fans for quieter operation.
4. Look at a sli capable Z97 based motherboard. All are good, pick your favorite brand. ASUS MAXIMUX VII hero as an example.
5. Whatever you do, plan on a SSD for the "C" drive. 240gb is fine. SSD prices are still dropping. You may find that 500gb will hold all you want.
6. Buy a case you love. You will be looking at it for a long time.
Now is the time to research cases.
A case should have at least two 120mm or 140mm intake fans. That should give you sufficient airflow to cool your parts.
I like washable front intake filters which keeps the case free of dust.
Prices and products will change by the end of the year.
That said, your budget is plenty for what you want to do.
1. 4k gaming or triple monitor gaming requires serious graphics capability.
It is not well satisfied by any single gpu. Possibly, if we see a GTX980ti that might change.
Today, you are looking at a good solution via sli GTX970 or GTX980 cards.
I like EVGA, and particularly the reference blower versions. They are better in sli configurations where the top card can otherwise get starved for cooling air.
2. On the cpu, there is nothing better than the i7-4790K.
You might be tempted by haswell-E.
Few games can use more than 2-3 cores, so the 6 and 8 core parts are not that helpful to the gamer.
Also, the tdp limit keeps haswell-E from overclocking individual cores to very high limits compared to a quad.
A i704790K will run at 4.0/4.4 turbo at stock. A conservative oc might add 0.2 more with a fair tower type air cooler.
More, and you are looking at a vcore of over 1.30 which ic not good for 24/7 operation.
3. Look at Phanteks or noctua for good air coolers. buy one with two 140mm fans for quieter operation.
4. Look at a sli capable Z97 based motherboard. All are good, pick your favorite brand. ASUS MAXIMUX VII hero as an example.
5. Whatever you do, plan on a SSD for the "C" drive. 240gb is fine. SSD prices are still dropping. You may find that 500gb will hold all you want.
6. Buy a case you love. You will be looking at it for a long time.
Now is the time to research cases.
A case should have at least two 120mm or 140mm intake fans. That should give you sufficient airflow to cool your parts.
I like washable front intake filters which keeps the case free of dust.
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ksarex
October 10, 2014 8:35:38 AM
Well you are comparing raw numbers there and your comparison is between 980 and 780 ti, not 780. I chose 970 because it is just 10% worse than gtx 980 when it comes to fps but 40% cheaper.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_9...
Yes i7 is not typically necessary for gaming but you have a huge budget, why not use the top of the top like 5930k and ddr4?
PS. Even if exaggerated with some choice, the final build is still at the bottom of your budget.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_9...
Yes i7 is not typically necessary for gaming but you have a huge budget, why not use the top of the top like 5930k and ddr4?
PS. Even if exaggerated with some choice, the final build is still at the bottom of your budget.
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Joseph DeGarmo
October 10, 2014 8:57:05 AM
The 5930k is ideal for maximum SLI performance since it has a full 40 lanes of PCI-E support. So for going SLI, that CPU is not a bad idea at all. Pair that up with two GTX 980 Classifieds and you'll have one behemoth of a gaming beast. Unless, of course, you want to wait for a GTX 990 dual-GPU to be released. Then it will justify getting a 4790k. You can use the rest of your budget to get some 4K UHD monitors.
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Geertt2
October 10, 2014 9:00:48 AM
ksarex said:
Well you are comparing raw numbers there and your comparison is between 980 and 780 ti, not 780. I chose 970 because it is just 10% worse than gtx 980 when it comes to fps but 40% cheaper. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_9...
Yes i7 is not typically necessary for gaming but you have a huge budget, why not use the top of the top like 5930k and ddr4?
PS. Even if exaggerated with some choice, the final build is still at the bottom of your budget.
Yes the budget is decent, however there is always the price to value ratio, also china have a huge tax on computer parts. I don't mind spending a bit more for more performance ( one reason I asked why 970) but going overboard isn't what I am looking for either ( no Titan blacks).
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ksarex
October 10, 2014 10:01:05 AM
Your last post confused me a little bit... You point the importance of value/performance ratio and then say that you dont mind spending a bit more for more performance. At that level any performance boost will cost you a lot... anyway i made some changes to the build i posted before so that it will have a better price/performance ratio. Didnt remove XP941, it is the fastest consumer ssd. Still sticking with dual 970...
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($589.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($233.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung XP941 Series 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($255.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($102.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($335.66 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($335.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.30 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2438.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($589.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($233.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung XP941 Series 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($255.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($102.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($335.66 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($335.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.30 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2438.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Geertt2
October 10, 2014 8:22:44 PM
ksarex said:
Your last post confused me a little bit... You point the importance of value/performance ratio and then say that you dont mind spending a bit more for more performance. At that level any performance boost will cost you a lot... anyway i made some changes to the build i posted before so that it will have a better price/performance ratio. Didnt remove XP941, it is the fastest consumer ssd. Still sticking with dual 970...PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($589.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($233.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung XP941 Series 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($255.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($102.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($335.66 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($335.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.30 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2438.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-10 12:59 EDT-0400
Sorry for the confusion. What I mean was I don't mind spending more cash on graphics cards/CPU's/Motherboards for example GTX 780 TI SLI's, but at the same time I don't not want to spend more cash for super niche elitist hardwares (example: GTX Titan Blacks).
Again, I am still confused, is dual gtx 970's better for gaming? or dual gtx 780/780 ti's? or is it because I want a tri-monitor setup and gtx 970 is better for multi monitor/4k'd?
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Geertt2
October 11, 2014 8:04:03 PM
Joseph DeGarmo
October 12, 2014 12:22:25 AM
Geertt2
October 12, 2014 7:38:39 AM
I appreciate the help ksarex for giving me a baseline guide. I was wondering, I build a system I would possibly buy at the end of the year, any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
The link is http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zZfnNG, however there seem to be an error on the bottom, I am not sure what it means.
The link is http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zZfnNG, however there seem to be an error on the bottom, I am not sure what it means.
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ksarex
October 12, 2014 2:42:43 PM
Geertt2
October 12, 2014 7:42:50 PM
ksarex said:
You cant have 2 of these ssds, You mobo wont be able to support it. You will have to remove the small one and get a nice sata hdd with the money. Western digital Black series is really good.
Is there a compatible motherboard for the two ssd's that I choose? After I quit using HDD's a few years back, I don't think I would be able to use HDD's ever again.
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ksarex
October 13, 2014 2:47:13 AM
Geertt2
October 13, 2014 3:37:19 AM
Oh.. I didn't even realize that it uses M.2 . I was wondering why it was more expensive then the rest.
Here is an updated link http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JxdGdC
I swapped out the Cosmos II for the Cosmos SE because the II won't fit in my computer desk. Also I used M.2 Samsung 256 gb for primary and a sata SSD 1T for my media/games whatever. I hope this would work.
Any advice on the mobo's? I never used MSI and Im wondering if Asus or gigabyte gaming mobo's would be better.
Here is an updated link http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JxdGdC
I swapped out the Cosmos II for the Cosmos SE because the II won't fit in my computer desk. Also I used M.2 Samsung 256 gb for primary and a sata SSD 1T for my media/games whatever. I hope this would work.
Any advice on the mobo's? I never used MSI and Im wondering if Asus or gigabyte gaming mobo's would be better.
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